June 13, 20223 yr lmfao in just the last few posts leftists are now saying that "no one said it was a huge uprising" and also "no one said it was all that violent." You really can't make this stuff up.
June 13, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, toolg said: Hearing is delayed this morning... Bill Stepien was scheduled to testify but his wife is in labor.
June 13, 20223 yr Liz Cheney, hero of the nation. Through simply not denying reality. That is the kicker.
June 13, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Liz Cheney, hero of the nation. Through simply not denying reality. That is the kicker. Trump followed the advice of "apparently inebriated Rudy Guiliani" (2:20) Yup. That's our former President.
June 13, 20223 yr Quote The committee also revealed that Trump’s "official election defense fund"—which raised $250 million for a Political Action Committee created after his loss—didn’t actually exist. It was instead a marketing ploy to redirect money to other entities that enriched those closest to him. A slide put together by congressional investigators pointed out that $5 million went to Event Strategies, which helped set up the rally at The Ellipse near the White House where Trump fired up an angry crowd that later attacked the Capitol building. They also noted that $1 million went to his chief of staff Mark Meadows’ nonprofit Conservative Partnership Institute, another $1 million was directed to the America First Policy Institute to support Trump-loyal candidates across the country, and $204,857 was funneled to the Trump Hotel Collection. "The Big Lie was also a big rip off,” Lofgren said. SUCKERS!!!
June 13, 20223 yr Some highlights from today's hearing. Quote Trump claimed there was a "big vote dump” in Detroit, which Barr said wasn’t true. "I said, ‘Did anyone point out to you – did all the people complaining about it point out to you, you actually did better in Detroit than you did last time?’ I mean, there’s no indication of fraud in Detroit,” Barr said of his conversation with former President Trump. Barr says Trump's election fraud claims in Philadelphia "absolute rubbish": Barr also shot down efforts by Trump to suggest there was significant fraud that could have impacted election results in the key battleground state of Pennsylvania. "The President has repeatedly suggested there was some kind of outpouring of unexpected votes in inner-city areas like Philadelphia," Barr said in a video clip. The former attorney general referenced a January interview with NPR where Trump suggested that more people voted in Philadelphia than there were voters. "That was absolute rubbish," Barr said of the claim. Barr said Trump claimed major fraud before there was "any potential of looking at evidence": Barr told the committee that Trump claimed there was major fraud underway "right out of the box on election night … before there was actually any potential of looking at evidence,” according to a previously unseen video clip from his closed-door interview with the panel played during today’s hearing. Barr said he reiterated "they wasted a whole month on these claims on the Dominion voting machines, and they were idiotic claims.” Trump’s outside lawyers and right-wing media made baseless claims that Dominion voting machines had been used to change votes in the election. "I specifically raised the Dominion voting machines, which I found to be among the most disturbing allegations – disturbing in the sense that I saw absolutely zero basis for the allegations, but they were made in such a sensational way that they obviously were influencing a lot of people, members of the public,” Barr said. Jared Kushner said he opposed Rudy Giuliani's 2020 election lies: Some Trump’s top aides were deeply uncomfortable with the conspiracy theories that his outside advisers were pushing about the 2020 election, according to new testimony revealed at the hearing. In a videotaped deposition, Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, said he opposed Giuliani’s post-election activities, though based on Kushner’s own description of his pushback, it did not sound all that forceful. "I guess, yes,” Kushner said, explaining that he told Trump that Giuliani’s strategy was "basically not the approach I would take if I was you.” Kushner said Trump responded by expressing "confidence in Rudy.” An ex-Trump campaign manager said the former President disagreed on election night that it was too early to declare victory: A video clip was played during the hearing featuring former Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien describing a conversation he had with Trump on election night, in which Trump disagreed with Stepien’s recommendation to say it was too early to call the race. The committee played video from Stepien’s deposition where he said that it was his recommendation to say it was "too early to tell” who won the race. "The President disagreed with that,” Stepien said. "I don’t recall the particular words. He thought I was wrong, he told me so, and that they were going to go in a different direction." Former White House lawyer said he never believed Dominion Voting Systems had switched votes: Eric Herschmann, a lawyer who worked in the Trump White House, told the committee he never believed conspiracy theories that election contractor Dominion Voting Systems had switched votes. "I thought the Dominion stuff was ... I never saw any evidence whatsoever to sustain those allegations," Herschmann said in his taped deposition, of which the committee played a short clip. "His view was shared by many of the Trump team whom we interviewed," Committee Vice Chair Liz Cheney said. Cheney also quoted former Barr, who called the Dominion accusations "complete nonsense." Alleged "suitcase of ballots" was an official lockbox, former US attorney for North District of Georgia says: Former US Attorney BJay Pak said Georgia Secretary of State's office investigated a claim by the Trump team of suitcases full of ballots being pulled out from underneath tables after poll watchers were told to leave in Georgia. Pak said his office conducted its own investigation and found that the "suitcase full of ballots" was an official lockbox where ballots were stored to be kept safe. Former Philadelphia city commissioner says Trump's tweet escalated level of threats against him and his family: Philadelphia City Commissioner Al Schmidt, a Republican, said the threats against him became more specific and more graphic after former President Donald Trump tweeted against him following the 2020 election. "On some level it feels almost silly to talk about a tweet, but we can really see the impact that they have. Because prior to that [tweet], the threats were pretty general in nature," he told the Jan. 6 committee. "After the President tweeted at me by name, calling me out the way that he did, the threats became much more specific, much more graphic. And included not just me by name but included members of my family by name, their ages, our address, pictures of our home." Never forget, Kz and the moron Trumpbots in here fell for every single one of these Trump lies at the time and they almost certainly still believe them but are too embarrassed to admit it.
June 13, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Some highlights from today's hearing. Never forget, Kz and the moron Trumpbots in here fell for every single one of these Trump lies at the time and they almost certainly still believe them but are too embarrassed to admit it. They are not the smartest lumps of ish in the sewer.
June 13, 20223 yr btw, Dominion still has ongoing defamation litigation against FoxNews, Newsmax, Mike Lindell, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, etc. LINK They should take them to the cleaners!
June 13, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Kz! said: Good thing it was mostly peaceful acts of mass arson or it could have been scary! I remember Gov. Murphy joining in one of the George Floyd protests without a mask and smirking when asked about it.
June 13, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, Procus said: I remember Gov. Murphy joining in one of the George Floyd protests without a mask and smirking when asked about it. If he was taking the horse medicine it would have been Ok though, right?
June 13, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: Some highlights from today's hearing. Never forget, Kz and the moron Trumpbots in here fell for every single one of these Trump lies at the time and they almost certainly still believe them but are too embarrassed to admit it. those stupid futhamuckas went on & on about all that nonsense....posting links, tweets, etc. fell for every one of them...hook, line, & sinker.
June 13, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: those stupid futhamuckas went on & on about all that nonsense....posting links, tweets, etc. fell for every one of them...hook, line, & sinker. They are complaining about prices, while apparently sending hundreds of millions to help Trump. . . well, not stop the steal, fill his bank accounts.
June 13, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Toastrel said: They are complaining about prices, while apparently sending hundreds of millions to help Trump. . . well, not stop the steal, fill his bank accounts. I wonder how many tanks of gas @matchew88 bought Trump?
June 13, 20223 yr The attempted coup was the result of a grift. Trump created the phony election fraud to line his own pockets!
June 13, 20223 yr Just now, toolg said: The attempted coup was the result of a grift. Trump created the phony election fraud to line his own pockets! Good. These morons deserve to be taken advantage of.
June 13, 20223 yr 43 minutes ago, Toastrel said: They are complaining about prices, while apparently sending hundreds of millions to help Trump. . . well, not stop the steal, fill his bank accounts. I'm pretty sure nobody on these boards is sending $$ to Trump. Just a hunch . . .
June 13, 20223 yr Just now, Procus said: I'm pretty sure nobody on these boards is sending $$ to Trump. Just a hunch . . . cant speak for everyone, but i wouldn't send any politician one dime. Thats just throwing money away
June 13, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, Procus said: I'm pretty sure nobody on these boards is sending $$ to Trump. Just a hunch . . . Except Mike...
June 13, 20223 yr Author 6 hours ago, Ipiggles said: And those who were voilent (those several hundred people) should be held accountabe to the fullest extent. I dont think anyone is arguing against that. But some of us dont pretend this was a huge uprising where we almost lost our democracy. Again trying to deflect. The president tried to overturn an election. And did so by coercing his supporters (many more than willing requiring little coaxing) to march on the capitol building. And as they violently breached the building, overrunning police (stabbing a few with flag poles for good measure), he did nothing. THAT is the major problem. THAT is the focus of the commission, as it should be. Trump should not only be barred from office, but he should be tried for treason.
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