11 minutes ago, Godfather said:

I'm a big fan of Driscoll. He does everything pretty well. Reminds me of Herrmanns a bit

The Toddfather was much stronger.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You see, the great thing about sweaters is it's like Christmas.  If you came down the stairs as a little boy and saw a bunch of crap on the living room floor that wasn't wrapped, it wouldn't be as exciting.  But you put a tight fitting sweater around those puppies.....and boom.......you have hallmark moment.   

Can you do Arizona State next? 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

And we know, Hurts was going to do that.  

Yup

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

The Toddfather was much stronger.

Also had longer arms and a great anchor.   Driscoll's anchor is a bit light.

You don't need superstars at every position, for one thing, you can't pay them all.

You do need "anchor" players who make their teammates better.

So one 3 down LB elevates the other LBs b/c they can be used in roles that best suit their talents, a dominant DL forces double teams, freeing linemates. A top notch center makes his guards better. A #1 WR creates easier coverage for #2 and #3. A top FS allows you to go with a SS with limited range, and can help cover for an average CB. And so on.

This team needs a few anchor players and a lot of depth from this draft.

As far as QB, sure, if a "can't miss" prospect is available, but that's usually at #1, and there's one every 2-3 years even with the first pick. Otherwise, QBs tend to be made, not born, that is, the best way to find a young QB is draft a flawed QB with good intangibles, and put them in a position to succeed - a solid OL, experienced skill players and a veteran QB so they can sit for half a year or longer. The way to destroy a talented young QB is to start them as a rookie, behind a shaky OL and without enough skill people who can get open quickly.

Build a good team and you can find/make a QB, NO found Brees, TB Brady, LA Stafford, Seattle turned Wilson into a pro bowl QB. Denver won with washed up Peyton.

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

The Toddfather was much stronger.

The knock on Driscoll coming out of college was his short arms. He's just so good fundamentally it makes up for it

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Oh boy. The brunette........uh...yeah.  But the backporch on the blonde on the right seems to be propped up nicely.  

 

Uhhh....they're all making the shocker sign....well, that's why it's the best party school in the nation I suppose. 

Just now, austinfan said:

You don't need superstars at every position, for one thing, you can't pay them all.

That's a great strawman.  No one is claiming that you do.  The claim is that you need NFL CALIBER players at every position, including LB.  Defensively, it's always nice to have one superstar at each level of the defense... or at least one on the front and one on the back, without a gaping hole in the middle.  

Offensively, you need a super star QB and some solid pieces around him, OR you need a super star cast around a game manager, with a stifling defense.  

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

But in here he was the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice. 

This board over reacts and thinks way too highly of players way too fast. 

 

People were excited that the Eagles had a wr playing well for once. Even though it was only for a 4 week stretch 

@Original Sin Tell me what you think of Malik Willis. To my uneducated eye he looks like he’s got a great arm, can make all the throws, and from every angle.

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

But in here he was the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice. 

This board over reacts and thinks way too highly of players way too fast. 

 

Imagine fans of a team getting excited when one of their players goes off for a month? The nerve of some people!

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Uhhh....they're all making the shocker sign....well, that's why it's the best party school in the nation I suppose. 

That's the "fork" sign for the Sun Devils.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Am I the only one who hates those tan nylon stockings?  I'd rather just see skin.  

Agreed, and speaking of, I recently learned Hooters is actually expanding in the States. I'm a little shocked they're still in business honestly, the food isn't that great and generally speaking (at least up here), the waitresses are old and ratty. 

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

I'm ok with Exciting. People on here wanted to make him Wr1, Start sizing him up for a gold jacket and thought we should sign him to a long term extension. 

See the difference? 

 

Man, if you just avoided going to hyperbole every other post, you'd be OK. 

9 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Step 1, Fire NS

Step 2, Hire Brian Daboll

Step 3, Draft Carson Strong

You forgot the most important step

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's a great strawman.  No one is claiming that you do.  The claim is that you need NFL CALIBER players at every position, including LB.  Defensively, it's always nice to have one superstar at each level of the defense... or at least one on the front and one on the back, without a gaping hole in the middle.  

Offensively, you need a super star QB and some solid pieces around him, OR you need a super star cast around a game manager, with a stifling defense.  

What's a NFL caliber player? Depends on the position and role. Maddox is a fine NCB, but shouldn't start outside. A good example of a mid-round pick that has to be put in a position to succeed. Avery and P Johnson are probably fine at SLB, playing 50% of the snaps, if they had a first rate 3 down MLB next to them.

Point is if you have those anchor players, you can fill in the rest of your roster with middle round picks and street free agents and one year patches.

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

What's a NFL caliber player? Depends on the position and role. Maddox is a fine NCB, but shouldn't start outside. A good example of a mid-round pick that has to be put in a position to succeed. Avery and P Johnson are probably fine at SLB, playing 50% of the snaps, if they had a first rate 3 down MLB next to them.

Point is if you have those anchor players, you can fill in the rest of your roster with middle round picks and street free agents and one year patches.

Look at the LB corps... none of them.

No one has argued against anchor players... but this GM hasn't found them OR the fill ins very effectively, and that's his main job.  The lack of talent falls on the GM.  The lack of cap space to sign any anchors, on the GM.  The lack of cap flexibility to trade the older players that cost too much to a contender, on the GM.  The 2nd round pick wasted on a QB that's at best a backup in the NFL, on the GM.

With Hurts throwing the passes, every WR looks like a #3, Devonta included.  No one is seen when they are open, no one catches a pass in stride and has a chance to run with it, forget about making a play downfield.

And while I *think* this might have the ingredients of a very good wr corps, we can’t just assume that they’d otherwise be great, simply because Hurts is holding them back.  The possibility remains that they aren’t that great either.  We’ve seen how soft Smith can be getting thrown off his route or making plays on poorly thrown balls into traffic.  

2 hours ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

That's the OU offense.  They are just that much more talented than their competition (in a league that plays no defense) and then living off of broken plays.  

Lincoln Riley is an offensive genius. He’s the guy I was hoping would come here last season but he heard the Eagles rumors and Ali most immediately said no. Maybe he change his mind next season if Sirianni is canned? I can only hope. 

19 minutes ago, austinfan said:

What's a NFL caliber player? Depends on the position and role. Maddox is a fine NCB, but shouldn't start outside. A good example of a mid-round pick that has to be put in a position to succeed. Avery and P Johnson are probably fine at SLB, playing 50% of the snaps, if they had a first rate 3 down MLB next to them.

Point is if you have those anchor players, you can fill in the rest of your roster with middle round picks and street free agents and one year patches.

Why don't we have those few anchor players now?

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

With Hurts throwing the passes, every WR looks like a #3, Devonta included.  No one is seen when they are open, no one catches a pass in stride and has a chance to run with it, forget about making a play downfield.

And while I *think* this might have the ingredients of a very good wr corps, we can’t just assume that they’d otherwise be great, simply because Hurts is holding them back.  The possibility remains that they aren’t that great either.  We’ve seen how soft Smith can be getting thrown off his route or making plays on poorly thrown balls into traffic.  

I feel very confident saying Devonta Smith is good. 

Fulgham is an example of the importance of intangibles. He has starter talent, that stretch of games wasn't a fluke, he made plays. But he was waived before the Eagles picked him up because he was an awful practice player, and over time that lack of dedication to his craft showed up on the playing field, drops, bad routes, taking plays off, etc.

Fans get enamored with measureables, but players make their biggest improvement in almost any sport between 20-25 years old, some of that is physical maturity, but a lot of that is just hard work, in the weight room, in the film room, on the practice field. And that comes down to intangibles, sport intelligence, instincts, work ethic, motor.

One reason I wouldn't give up on Hurts just yet is his intangibles, if he has trouble seeing the field, he'll watch film until his recognition improves, if he has issues with arm strength, he'll practice his mechanics until his release is improved, and so on. It may be he can't overcome his limitations with hard work, but he's young enough that there's still potential for improvement. When players come out of "nowhere," it's usually a player with good but not great talent who worked his butt off for years behind the scenes. Chad Lewis went from the waiver wire to the pro bowl that way.

I'm excited about Tyree Jackson because he worked hard to convert from QB to TE on his own - he wants to play, and instead of being forced half-heartedly into a position change, embraced the challenge. And he's a top athlete to boot.

 

For you Draft Guys out there. Watched Virginia game the other day, was impressed with their QB Brennan Armstrong. Looks like he has a chance to be a legit NFL QB. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yes we do. 

We need:

DE- 2

LB- 3

Corner- 1

OG- 1

RB-1

QB-1

Safety-2

 

Yeah, we need starters.  

 

I would also argue you need a DT cause Cox isn’t young. By 2023 when you hope to be a playoff caliber team he might just be done or gone. Could also make the argument if the goal is 2023 that you potentially need two starters as Nelson is a FA at the end of the year and slay is going to be 33 and you have no clue what McPherson is. 

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

With Hurts throwing the passes, every WR looks like a #3, Devonta included.  No one is seen when they are open, no one catches a pass in stride and has a chance to run with it, forget about making a play downfield.

And while I *think* this might have the ingredients of a very good wr corps, we can’t just assume that they’d otherwise be great, simply because Hurts is holding them back.  The possibility remains that they aren’t that great either.  We’ve seen how soft Smith can be getting thrown off his route or making plays on poorly thrown balls into traffic.  

not just the WR's but the Oline looks worse when your QB doesn't step up into the pocket, instead slides back and out into trouble and then bails. That is very frsutrating to the oline to know your QB is never where he is suppossed to be. It makes them look worse.