27 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

In speaking in relative terms of the COVID Vaccines only

No I dont think most employers would have that right. 

In most states (I live in Florida and it's certainly the case here) private companies (non-government) can (more or less) require whatever they want from their employees.  (Outside of breaking the law)  They can also fire them for just about any reason they want (including no reason).  

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He hasn't played meaningful football since 2018

No?  I thought he played for the Packers a bit last year?  Could be wrong.  Just thinking about a different type of WR than what they trot out there on Sundays.  Someone with some physicality would be nice.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

No?  I thought he played for the Packers a bit last year?  Could be wrong.  Just thinking about a different type of WR than what they trot out there on Sundays.  Someone with some physicality would be nice.

He opted out last year. He was on their team this year in TC but put on IR and cut. 2019 he played one game and then was on IR the rest of the year. 

10 minutes ago, Utebird said:

That seems like a lot of work( cleaning) for basically a pretty looking drumstick.

He cooks for competition, but if you are having a party... why not put in a little extra work for a better presentation?  

 

WAY better than a cake lollipop, IMHO, which is also a lot of work, but is generally a very flat flavor profile.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Here you go with your "moving the goal posts" line again.  YOU moved the goal post.  I said that OBJ was kicked off his team.  You said those other guys were as well.  But they weren't.  So next time YOU say someone else is moving the goal posts it's probably because we are putting it back after YOU moved it in the first place.  

Bruh this is way too high level for him to understand. 

35 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Interesting that before the college football season the QBs being hyped as first rounders were Howell, Slovis, Rattler, etc.  Now with the college season winding down the most hyped prospects are Corral and Willis, with Pickett rising in stock.  Rattler and JT Daniels don't even have starting jobs anymore.

This will be a great draft to avoid drafting a QB, but does Nick want to be tied to Hurts for another 17 games -- with his own job possibly hinging on the offense producing?  There will be a temptation for the Eagles to draft a QB, no doubt.

I really hope the Eagles avoid drafting one of the scampering midgets -- Pickett would be my choice if I had to take a QB; I'd just prefer not, and build the roster on defense while Minshew and Hurts compete for the job next season.  It'd be nice if Strong moved a little bit better.  It'd be even nicer if Shough returns from injury this weekend and puts 3 solid games together down the stretch.

 Corral is Baker except he can run, but yea most of them are short Howell, Corral and Willis are all around 6’.  I’d prefer 6’3” as a minimum. 
 If Tanner McKee comes out this year he’d be someone to look at hopefully in the 3rd round, both him and Jurkovec are 6’5”.  
 Strong is big kid and would have been a top pick if he didn’t have the knee issue, he’s got the best arm I’ve seen in the class, he’s accurate and throws with anticipation.  He’s got the position down and he’s fine moving around the pocket,  but he may not pass pre draft physicals for some teams. 
 

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

stfu dude. I've had enough of you and liberal name calling bullspit

What? 

41 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

You keep making this disingenuous argument. Nobody, not one scientist has said you can't get COVID even if vaccinated. This comes back to how vaccines work, in the most simple of terms. What it DOES do, is prevent severe health effects from contracting COVID. 

The myocarditis issue you've been mentioning appears to occur very rarely, and is generally a mild case of it. I haven't seen a reported death from myocarditis due to the vaccine, but am certainly open to reviewing any info you may have.

you totally missed my argument. 

I am not saying anyone is claiming you wont get COVID by being vaccinated. What I am saying is since it does not prevent you from getting nor stop you from transmitting it, and if you have concerns about the vaccines, and or already survived COVID with little issue, why would you get the Vaccine? 

It makes no sense to get a Vaccine for something you already had, and survived, since it wont stop you from getting it nor passing it along. It removes the need for a mandate. 

 

As for myocarditis, I do not have the info, perhaps you should. I know my newphew, a mixed race athlete, was unable to play basketball on his scholarship this year because of the vaccine he got and the myocarditis he developed.  The point is there is risk either way. Yes one is lower, but still risk. 

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1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Speaking of cooking..........Thanksgiving is going to SUCKKKKKK!!!!!!!

 

We have 18.  Our dining room can only seat 8.  Our table in the kitchen.....breakfast nook can only sit 4. My wife is adamant that we have a table set up in our living room for the other 6.  I would rather put them on the deck.  I will have two turkeys....and a bunch of f-ing people in my way.  If it rains....I am f-ed and I might kill someone.  If it's nice then everyone outside until I ring the dinner bell.....WHY!!!???  My wife invites so many GD people.  

To inflame the blog on a different subject, I think Thanksgiving food is criminally overrated.  Turkey is such a bland, dry, vapid meat.  It's the Gannon defense of meats.  Then just heap on some breaded stuffing with a hodge-podge of veggies and gravy to try to make it palatable.  

Then let's eat leftovers of the same crappy dinner for the next 5 meals.

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Speaking of cooking..........Thanksgiving is going to SUCKKKKKK!!!!!!!

 

We have 18.  Our dining room can only seat 8.  Our table in the kitchen.....breakfast nook can only sit 4. My wife is adamant that we have a table set up in our living room for the other 6.  I would rather put them on the deck.  I will have two turkeys....and a bunch of f-ing people in my way.  If it rains....I am f-ed and I might kill someone.  If it's nice then everyone outside until I ring the dinner bell.....WHY!!!???  My wife invites so many GD people.  

I usually had around 30 for Christmas, but the Pandemic put a stop to that. We would cook a 20+ lb Turkey and 2 Hams etc... we have a very large room we could get enough tables in and the food into, but was a ton of work. 

 

This year, like last there will be 4 of us. Ahhhhhhh      Serenity now. LOL

4 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

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oh my.  

53 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

JFC....Take it to CVON!!!!!!!!!!!

I missed this.  Sorry, I allow myself to get pulled in. Moving on. 

34 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Agreed. We have lost the ability to have civil discourse. 

My take: we are intolerent of opinions differing from ours. Years ago- the news organizations you trusted stated the facts, and only the facts, and left the interpretations to the individual. Occasionally having a "point/counterpoint" discussion showing both sides. STill fair and balanced 

Now we are told not how to think, but what to think, and if your opinions, views fall outside of that, you are labeled in a way to invalidate your opinions etc.  I can only assume if you follow the $$$$ you will find the root cause, but that is just specualtion. 

Sad times for sure. 

No, many years ago the news organizations supported the status quo for the most part. Like buying those "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."  Opps. That's because they didn't want to alienate advertisers. However, there were journalistic standards that were followed. I've been reading the NYT and WSJ for three decades, WSJ used to have great in-depth investigative articles. No more under Murdoch. Both papers have slanted editorial pages, though the slant has gotten worse. They generally report the same facts, though with different headlines and placement in the paper.

Cable news is not "news", it's entertainment, and the goal is higher ratings to sell advertising. Chris Wallace is the only credible person on Fox News. MSNBC has better reporting, but it's swamped by the PC editorializing and talking heads. CNN went toward MSNBC but is now moving slowly back to the "center." None are sources I'd use for news other than breaking stories to be then researched elsewhere.

The real problem started with Gingrich and Tom DeLay, who changed politics from respectful arguments over policy to "winner take all" scorched earth tactics. Then grass roots fund raising up the ante, as they discovered first direct mail, then the internet and focused on raising money from millions of people, which incentivized emotional arguments that painted the other as "mortal enemies" that would take away your rights. The combination of the two has become deadly, as elections are now about "the soul of the nation," and people believe anything in support of their "tribe." Trump upped the stakes with his cult of personality (what exactly does he stand for? Other than himself?).

When politics becomes "apocalyptic religion," where you're not arguing about tax rates or which programs to fund, but victory over a vile enemy determined to destroy the American way of life, compromise becomes difficult and fact checking non-existent. So people actually believe in silly things like the 2020 election was stolen.

https://www.prri.org/research/competing-visions-of-america-an-evolving-identity-or-a-culture-under-attack/

 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Star Player Josh Huff = Taking the goalposts off campus. 

I told you, bring it down a few notches further even....

8 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

To inflame the blog on a different subject, I think Thanksgiving food is criminally overrated.  Turkey is such a bland, dry, vapid meat.  It's the Gannon defense of meats.  Then just heap on some breaded stuffing with a hodge-podge of veggies and gravy to try to make it palatable.  

Then let's eat leftovers of the same crappy dinner for the next 5 meals.

Definitely agree on the Turkey. It’s my least favorite thanksgiving food. 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

We just don't have the space for that many people.  Unless the weather is nice and we can put the TV out at the fire pit.  

I'm more concerned about the socializing before hand and my wife and I are running around trying to get ish together with people everywhere.  The MIL is good.  

I never had time to socialize befire the meal and after until most of the cleanup was done. Then we could sit down and chat. 

24 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Carson Strong too

 He’s my favorite, but three knee surgeries since his senior year in high school, the high school one being the most serious, I don’t see it unless he stops limping around the field.  He averaged 18 and 12 as a basketball player in high school so he has some athleticism but he had 8 nails put in his knee to heal a crack in his femur, plus just this fall his knee had to be drained and that’s after a clean out surgery last spring.  
 I’m not a Dr or a scientist, but that doesn’t sound great. 

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

To inflame the blog on a different subject, I think Thanksgiving food is criminally overrated.  Turkey is such a bland, dry, vapid meat.  It's the Gannon defense of meats.  Then just heap on some breaded stuffing with a hodge-podge of veggies and gravy to try to make it palatable.  

Then let's eat leftovers of the same crappy dinner for the next 5 meals.

I would have agreed with you many years ago. My grandmother always cooked the big meals for family get togethers, and bless her, but she overcooked EVERYTHING. Roast beef was dry, turkey, forget about it. She did make an amazing gravy that saved her meats though. 

My little brother became a chef. He wouldn't cook the big meals while my grandma was alive out of reverence to her. But she passed, and he cooked our first turkey dinner without her for Easter one year. My god, the difference was astounding. Juicy, delicious white meat, with a great gravy to match was divine. He cooks all our family meals now and it's markedly better. 

I think many people just follow their grandparents recipes, where they had to cook everything until there was no flavour left. I've also heard deep frying turkey is phenomenal but I've never tried it. 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

To inflame the blog on a different subject, I think Thanksgiving food is criminally overrated.  Turkey is such a bland, dry, vapid meat.  It's the Gannon defense of meats.  Then just heap on some breaded stuffing with a hodge-podge of veggies and gravy to try to make it palatable.  

Then let's eat leftovers of the same crappy dinner for the next 5 meals.

IMHO, if that's your experience with turkey, you are doing it wrong.

With a good brine, and properly cooked, a roasted turkey is delicious.  This past Thanksgiving, I smoked a turkey for Thanksgiving, and it was a game changer.  Best turkey I've ever had.   

As for the veggies... the sides are some of my favorites as well, but they are normally the richer versions or the more carb heavy veggies, so its best not to have it too often. 

Leftovers: I always make a turkey stock with the carcass and have a few turkey soup recipes that I can turn to for a different flavor profile (I love soup, so that's not a chore to me).  I also have some other turkey recipes that change up the turkey experience... like a turkey divan, turkey croquettes, or turkey salad.   (The dark meat is best for the croquettes and divan, the white meat is best for the salad, imo.) And I can eat divan one day, then turkey salad sandwiches (yes, with a bit of cranberry sauce) and soup, if there's anything left... the croquettes and never feel bored or like is the same meal each day.  That's 4 days of meals, but each is unique to me, even if the meat is the same base.

Everyone is different though.

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

No, many years ago the news organizations supported the status quo for the most part. Like buying those "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."  Opps. That's because they didn't want to alienate advertisers. However, there were journalistic standards that were followed. I've been reading the NYT and WSJ for three decades, WSJ used to have great in-depth investigative articles. No more under Murdoch. Both papers have slanted editorial pages, though the slant has gotten worse. They generally report the same facts, though with different headlines and placement in the paper.

Cable news is not "news", it's entertainment, and the goal is higher ratings to sell advertising. Chris Wallace is the only credible person on Fox News. MSNBC has better reporting, but it's swamped by the PC editorializing and talking heads. CNN went toward MSNBC but is now moving slowly back to the "center." None are sources I'd use for news other than breaking stories to be then researched elsewhere.

The real problem started with Gingrich and Tom DeLay, who changed politics from respectful arguments over policy to "winner take all" scorched earth tactics. Then grass roots fund raising up the ante, as they discovered first direct mail, then the internet and focused on raising money from millions of people, which incentivized emotional arguments that painted the other as "mortal enemies" that would take away your rights. The combination of the two has become deadly, as elections are now about "the soul of the nation," and people believe anything in support of their "tribe." Trump upped the stakes with his cult of personality (what exactly does he stand for? Other than himself?).

When politics becomes "apocalyptic religion," where you're not arguing about tax rates or which programs to fund, but victory over a vile enemy determined to destroy the American way of life, compromise becomes difficult and fact checking non-existent. So people actually believe in silly things like the 2020 election was stolen.

https://www.prri.org/research/competing-visions-of-america-an-evolving-identity-or-a-culture-under-attack/

 

Ohh the country is politically divided for sure, and the news media/ entertainment news etc, helps to feed that.  And there is not much Journalistic integrity left.  They run what ever trumped up stories that will spread a narrative they like and kill other true stories that do not fit their narrative.

The best thing I did back in the 90's was cancel the paper, and stop watching the news.  I cant be programmed if I dont watch. The info is out there, just dont settle on one source, get from multiple sources, and search for the truth. 

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I would have agreed with you many years ago. My grandmother always cooked the big meals for family get togethers, and bless her, but she overcooked EVERYTHING. Roast beef was dry, turkey, forget about it. She did make an amazing gravy that saved her meats though. 

My little brother became a chef. He wouldn't cook the big meals while my grandma was alive out of reverence to her. But she passed, and he cooked our first turkey dinner without her for Easter one year. My god, the difference was astounding. Juicy, delicious white meat, with a great gravy to match was divine. He cooks all our family meals now and it's markedly better. 

I think many people just follow their grandparents recipes, where they had to cook everything until there was no flavour left. I've also heard deep frying turkey is phenomenal but I've never tried it. 

My mothers best meal was a Turkey dinner. She would overcook red meat. Sadly, but her Turkey was phenomenal.

Deep fried Turkey is awesome. A must have. 

14 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

To inflame the blog on a different subject, I think Thanksgiving food is criminally overrated.  Turkey is such a bland, dry, vapid meat.  It's the Gannon defense of meats.  Then just heap on some breaded stuffing with a hodge-podge of veggies and gravy to try to make it palatable.  

Then let's eat leftovers of the same crappy dinner for the next 5 meals.

The only reason I visit amusement parks is for the Turkey leg, I used to get 2 of them and let the kids hit the rides.  No rides for me, I’ve welded enough to know that I could teach a monkey to MIG weld in about an hour, some of crap that holds those structures together looks like half chewed Hubba Bubba.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yep.  My wife told me she never would liked steak until she met me.  And seeing how her folks cook, I know why.  They kill everything.....man some stories I can tell.  

They were all blown at the stuffing I made a few years ago....then I come to find out that they only used stove top.  

I know of some old ladies who would throw the turkey in the oven at like 3 am or something stupid like that.  

 

Deep fried turkey is very good.  

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Turkey is good, but I think for how much works needs to be put in it should be better.