2 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Most people want the excuse to shoot someone.  Stealing their $100 TV = death. 

I hope this is not the case, I doubt he would ever be the same after a human's blood drained all over his house and he actually had to watch a person die. 

1 minute ago, wussbasket said:

You're not asking questions to gather facts. You are in no position to gather facts. You are insinuating there can be no rape if there is past history of sexual activity. There are no facts in the article you quoted other than Georgia being 9-0.

Please explain how you are not going to bring facts to light on a Fing Eagles message board.

Dude, it's a football message board.  Manu shared a tweet regarding Anderson being accused of rape.  A lot of us have discussions on here regarding a wide variety of topics.

I certainly did not insinuate that there could be no rape if there was a past history of sexual activity.   What I was asking was what happened during their 6-7 hours in bed together.  THAT, IMO could have a direct relation to what happened.

I never claimed to know any facts, never said I was going to go out and gather any facts and never said I had any plan to bring anything to light to a message board. 

I was merely stating questions that would be interesting to have answered.  

 

 

8 hours ago, The Blackfish said:

Goff’s was 67% last season, that basically got him fired and called a chump by his coach because he only took the easy throws, rarely trying to go down field to open receivers.   
  Hurts arm strength nor his accuracy is his biggest problem, the one really bad issue  Hurts brought with him from college is leaving the pocket to early for no reason as he did on Sunday on the missed TD pass to Smith.  He believed the Chargers were gonna rush 5, but they only rushed 4, Hurts didn’t notice, he back peddled, didn’t get his feet set and threw a bad pass.   
 The 28yd TD pass to Smith was one of his best throws since he’s been in the NFL. He stepped up in the pocket with pressure around him and threw a great pass to Smith.  If he can continue to do that with most of his passes, he’s gonna be fine, if not he’ll be a career b\u.  Look at his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th weakness, it’s all right there. 
 

https://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/10/random-post-greg-cosell-pretty-much-nailed-his-jalen-hurts-scouting-report.html?amp

 

No one is a finished product coming out of college.  Fact is he has shown improvement from year one to year two.  He has clearly put in work and continues to do so.  Young developing players will go through highs and lows.  Just because he still has some areas to work on does not mean that the improvements he hasade should be completely tossed aside as meaningless.  When this blog spent all offseason attacking Hurts for his completion %, fumbling and ability to score points in the second half and he across the board makes major strides in all of those areas then he deserves credit.  But predictably he gets none and instead just new complaints for people to solely focus on. 

13 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Just because the HC and QB aren't good at their jobs doesn't mean Reagor is.  D Smith has been able to be productive....Reagor sucked last year too.  He is not a good WR....Sure, someone will take a flyer on him....but they'll soon see he is a gadget player who was not worth the reach.  

We're past that point.  

Absolutely...hard to argue much in Reagor's favor.

But for a freebie on a rookie deal...the athleticism is there.  And it won't hard for a team to argue that they can provide both coaching and passing to get a 23 year old first round pick to realize their potential that he did not have here.

2 minutes ago, greend said:

I hope this is not the case, I doubt he would ever be the same after a human's blood drained all over his house and he actually had to watch a person die. 

I agree - even in a war, it’s been shown that most folks don’t really want to kill anyone. At least that was the how things worked out, based on the WW2 studies.

26 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

No, I know nothing about Anderson as a human which I clearly stated in my post.  Maybe you missed that part or maybe you chose to ignore it.  I know nothing about the accuser either.  

The whole reason you ask questions is to gather facts....that's why I'm asking those things.  Did I say he was innocent?  Did I say she was lying?  Did I say anything about either of them?  No I didn't.  I was asking questions that could help bring clarity to the situation. 

I see no reason for you to tell me to STFU when I'm just asking basic questions that would help bring those facts to light.  

 

 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Dude, it's a football message board.  Manu shared a tweet regarding Anderson being accused of rape.  A lot of us have discussions on here regarding a wide variety of topics.

I certainly did not insinuate that there could be no rape if there was a past history of sexual activity.   What I was asking was what happened during their 6-7 hours in bed together.  THAT, IMO could have a direct relation to what happened.

I never claimed to know any facts, never said I was going to go out and gather any facts and never said I had any plan to bring anything to light to a message board. 

I was merely stating questions that would be interesting to have answered.  

 

 

This you?

7 hours ago, jsb235 said:

They did rush five. Not sure which game you watched to think they only rushed four, but it wasn't the Eagles against the Chargers.

You are correct and here is what Hurts said about that exact play from the Chargers game 

"I was expecting something else,” said Hurts of the throw to Smith in the end zone. "I ended up getting out of the pocket and made a throw kind of backpedaling. Maybe I didn’t need to do that, ended up leading him too much. It’s a missed opportunity in my eyes.”

He admits to throwing the ball w\o setting his feet because he read something else, poor throw. 

 

 

21 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

If you break into my house when I am at home, I make the assumption you are there to do us bodily harm. I wont wait until you declare your intentions. 

Exactly right, and in my state (NC) the laws are written as such.....thankfully.

40 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

If you break into my house when I am at home, I make the assumption you are there to do us bodily harm. I wont wait until you declare your intentions. 

That's all it takes.  You feel threatened.  That is called the Castle Doctrine...essentially you can protect your house its occupants.

20 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Just because the HC and QB aren't good at their jobs doesn't mean Reagor is.  D Smith has been able to be productive....Reagor sucked last year too.  He is not a good WR....Sure, someone will take a flyer on him....but they'll soon see he is a gadget player who was not worth the reach.  

 

To this point, again...this is why teams are often interested in first round cast-offs of terrible teams.  They'll ask themselves: can I give this former first round pick a better chance of success than his prior situation?

That answer is more likely to be a yes for a player coming from this franchise than from others.

9 minutes ago, greend said:

I hope this is not the case, I doubt he would ever be the same after a human's blood drained all over his house and he actually had to watch a person die. 

 

10 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

dont steal 100 dollar tv's. seems pretty simple to me. 

The problem with this country is we dont have harsh enough penalties. 

 

1 minute ago, Parrot Head said:

Exactly right, and in my state (NC) the laws are written as such.....thankfully.

Exhibit A and B.

 

"The law says I can” is what people use to justify the behavior. Just because something is legal, doesn’t mean it’s right and just.

14 minutes ago, greend said:

I hope this is not the case, I doubt he would ever be the same after a human's blood drained all over his house and he actually had to watch a person die. 

100% agree, most humans go through life hoping to never have taken a human life, even accidentally. Example: I am not a fan of Alec Baldwin, and know he acted in negligence, but I wouldn't wish that on anyone. 

On the other side of that coin, when put into a situation not of my own choice, I would rather be alive than a statistic. 

Reagor is interesting. He doesn't get a lot of looks as a traditional WR, but is that because he can't run the right routes where the coaches don't trust him? But they trust him enough to use him in gadget plays?

I liked the pick initially, although I would have liked him in the 2nd, but he has not played well at all. I fully expect them to hold on to him for a few more years and waste a roster space solely because he's a 1st round pick.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Always worth a shot.  But I wouldn't think the demand would be that great.  

I don't have anything nice to say about Reagor, I just think many teams wisely look for first and second round castaways from teams that can't provide a growth medium for success for young players.

Just now, Ipiggles said:

100% agree, most humans go through life hoping to never have taken a human life even accidentally. Example: I am not a fan of Alec Baldwin, and know he acted in negligence, but I wouldn't wish that on anyone. 

On the other side of that coin, when put into a situation not of my own choice, I would rather be alive than a statistic. 

Agree which is why I'm not wandering around a dark house looking for trouble. I take a stance in the upstairs hallway and if I have to shoot anyone that comes up the steps.

Just now, greend said:

Agree which is why I'm not wandering around a dark house looking for trouble. I take a stance in the upstairs hallway and if I have to shoot anyone that comes up the steps.

I draw the line at entering my home. But agree. If it's late at night, I am probably at the top of the steps as well

7 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

 

Exhibit A and B.

 

"The law says I can” is what people use to justify the behavior. Just because something is legal, doesn’t mean it’s right and just.

1.) Bacarty as usual is trolling

2.) I'm sure @Parrot Head is talking about protecting himself legally if he has to shoot

8 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

 

This you?

Talking that way too literally.  But yea, I typed those things speaking in generalities.  

When I say you I'm referring to those on the case.  When I say those questions should be asked to bring things to light, again, speaking in general.  Not for me to be an internet sleuth so I can break news to a few guys on an Eagles message board. 

 

But you got me, you can pat yourself on the back.  

14 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

 

Exhibit A and B.

 

"The law says I can” is what people use to justify the behavior. Just because something is legal, doesn’t mean it’s right and just.

So, you're seriously taking the side of the home invaders?

What a world.

And yes, @greend, I have an emergency plan similar to yours. Top of the staircase to keep them from getting to my family, but the second I get a visual of a home invader, I'm shooting.

2 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Reagor is interesting. He doesn't get a lot of looks as a traditional WR, but is that because he can't run the right routes where the coaches don't trust him? But they trust him enough to use him in gadget plays?

I liked the pick initially, although I would have liked him in the 2nd, but he has not played well at all. I fully expect them to hold on to him for a few more years and waste a roster space solely because he's a 1st round pick.

Not that anyone cares, but my timeline on Reagor:

I initially liked him as a prospect before doing any homework because he and Ruggs were considered the two speedsters of the draft.  Then he royally flubbed the combine.  I figured, what good is a speed WR who didn't produce much in college and couldn't even put up the raw numbers at the combine?  2nd or 3rd round.

Then I wanted his college tape a bit more...his elusiveness and deep speed really were impressive.  The Eagles desperately needed speed on offense.  Desperately.  Then his totally fabricated 4.2 gps pro day.

The Eagles really wanted Ruggs, who went much earlier than anyone expected.  Because they were basically humiliated into adding speed on offense, Howie panicked into drafting Reagor, since he was the next best speed WR prospect on the board.

Much like Maclin, Reagor just isn't nearly as fast as his college tape would lead you to believe.  That's why they have you run equalizing drills at the combine (Maclin disappointed there too).  Maclin, however, didn't have a lousy attitude and became a polished, quality route runner.  Reagor is just a slower than expected raw player who runs bad routes.

 

3 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

So, you're seriously taking the side of the home invaders?

What a world.

And yes, @greend, I have an emergency plan similar to yours. Top of the staircase, but the second I get a visual of a home invader, I'm shooting.

I’m not taking their side, but getting them to leave is first priority, not killing them. 

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Not that anyone cares, but my timeline on Reagor:

I initially liked him as a prospect before doing any homework because he and Ruggs were considered the two speedsters of the draft.  Then he royally flubbed the combine.  I figured, what good is a speed WR who didn't produce much in college and couldn't even put up the raw numbers at the combine?  2nd or 3rd round.

Then I wanted his college tape a bit more...his elusiveness and deep speed really were impressive.  The Eagles desperately needed speed on offense.  Desperately.  Then his totally fabricated 4.2 gps pro day.

The Eagles really wanted Ruggs, who went much earlier than anyone expected.  Because they were basically humiliated into adding speed on offense, Howie panicked into drafting Reagor, since he was the next best speed WR prospect on the board.

Much like Maclin, Reagor just isn't nearly as fast as his college tape would lead you to believe.  That's why they have you run equalizing drills at the combine (Maclin disappointed there too).  Maclin, however, didn't have a lousy attitude and became a polished, quality route runner.  Reagor is just a slower than expected raw player who runs bad routes.

I kind of followed a similar timeline. What's funny about Ruggs is when I was arm chair scouting and watching his videos I always noticed this other WR that looked much faster than Ruggs. At that point I didn't want Ruggs anymore because I didn't even think he was the best WR on the team his last year. That WR that looked much faster than Ruggs and kept catching my eye was Smith. 

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

From a person standpoint, he seems to be a very good guy, he seems to be a competitor, a strong leader, you love those traits.

For me, he just hasn't shown enough ability in running a pro style pocket passing offense, that you will need to be able to do, in order to win championships. He has the rest of the season to improve, as this is a throw away season anyway. For all involved it would be best if he did show he can and be able to do so. I have not seen it yet, but again we have 8 more games. 

There will be an argument made that you can win with his skill set the way it is, yes you can win games and maybe even get to and win a play off game or two. But the majority of SB's have been won by Pocket Passing elite QB's! So, until the run oriented QB's start winning SB's on a regular basis, I am going to stay looking for that Elite Pocket Passing QB, (who may be able to run when needed). The reason for this is, really good teams with good defenses, will limit the plays a running qb can make and make them beat you from the pocket, this usually shows up in the playoffs as the level of opponents gets tougher.

IMHO

That's because the vast majority of NFL QBs are pocket passing QBs (as far as elite, take Brady out of the sample and elite is far less important).

How many true dual threat QBs are there? Lamar and Hurts. That's pretty much it. Being able to run fast doesn't make a QB a running threat, a lot of athletic QBs lack RB instincts or run with an upright style that leads to injuries.

Lamar 600 yards in 8 games (6th in rushing yards)

Hurts 494 yards in 9 games (13)

Allen 319 yards in 8 games (32)

Fields 288 yards in 7 games (41)

Jones 258 yards in 9 games (47)

Heinicke 232 yards in 7 games (51)

Mahomes 227 yards in 9 games (52)
 

21 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

Exactly right, and in my state (NC) the laws are written as such.....thankfully.

That's called the Castle Doctrine.  You can defend your house and its inhabitants.  I don't know anyone that wants to have to defend their house with violence, but there are plenty who would do so, if necessary.