Eagles 24 - Broncos 17

Bonus - 11+ tackles for TD Edwards and Hurts throws for 3.  One to Tyree Jackson

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No my math isn’t. Your using quarters. You keep referring to quarters which not my argument. I’m using his amount of yards he had after being down 42-23 to the chiefs, after being down 27-7 to Dallas and after being down 30-7 to the raiders. The total amount of yards he accumulated in those three instances were 488 yards and 4 touchdown passes. 

so here’s how mathematics work here. He has 2369 total yards. In those three instances he had 488 yards. Take the 488 yards and divided it by 2369 total yards. Which equals 20.6%. Youre welcome for the math lesson 

and fyi the Dallas game when down 27-7 was in the third quarter with 14 mins left. So that’s 2 quarters alone. And the raiders game they got down 30-7 with 6 mins left in the third. So your 2 quarters is still wrong. 

 

The yards he had after being down 42-23 to the Chiefs all came on the final drive of that game.  Which would be a total of 63 yards out of 434 total yards that game for Hurts.  

 

The Eagles went down 27-7 to start the 3rd quarter of the Cowboys game so you are then saying nothing he did in the second half should be counted.  Similar for the Raiders too.  So your gripe seems to be that you want Hurts to have the lsoer mentality that you apparently have and just quit when knocked down. 

 

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t worry i gave him a math lesson. Even his math on his 2 quarters is BS. The eagles got down to the cowboys 27-7 with 14 mins left in the third. The rest of that game was garbage. That’s two quarters alone. Raiders game got down 30-7 with 6 mins left in the third. So that alone is 3 quarters and then some

There are 3 kinds of people in the world.  Those that can do math, and those that can't.

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No my math isn’t. Your using quarters. You keep referring to quarters which not my argument. I’m using his amount of yards he had after being down 42-23 to the chiefs, after being down 27-7 to Dallas and after being down 30-7 to the raiders. The total amount of yards he accumulated in those three instances were 488 yards and 4 touchdown passes. 

so here’s how mathematics work here. He has 2369 total yards. In those three instances he had 488 yards. Take the 488 yards and divided it by 2369 total yards. Which equals 20.6%. Youre welcome for the math lesson 

and fyi the Dallas game when down 27-7 was in the third quarter with 14 mins left. So that’s 2 quarters alone. And the raiders game they got down 30-7 with 6 mins left in the third. So your 2 quarters is still wrong. 

Not all those yards are extra because of garbage time. Yes they happened during garbage time. However if it wasn’t garbage time then he would have had stats still. How many? Who knows? But garbage time isn’t extra playing time. You’re acting like he would have had 0 stats if the scores were 20-20.

This reason and the fact that every QB has garbage time makes this argument useless.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

If i were a juror and heard that I’d roll my eyes and find him guilty immediately. 

Not saying its a good defense, but they are going to throw out all kinds of stuff.  Its just what they do.

More Ruggs stuff -- Shannon Sharpe sounds pissed. ETA: Sharpe said that "probably" cost him his career.  

https://www.tmz.com/2021/11/12/shannon-sharpe-henry-ruggs-car-crash-nfl-career-las-vegas-raiders/

Apparently, both the NFL and individual teams have services that will come and give you rides.  Maybe it's because I'm lazy, but man if I had a free ride to / from parties I would absolutely use that. 

1 minute ago, MillerTime said:

Not all those yards are extra because of garbage time. Yes they happened during garbage time. However if it wasn’t garbage time then he would have had stats. How many? Who knows? But garbage time isn’t extra playing time. You’re acting like he would have had 0 stats if the scores were 20-20.

This reason and the fact that every QB has garbage time makes this argument useless.

No.  Every QB has garbage time stats... but that doesn't mean that they have 20+% of their stats in 'garbage time'.   He's gotta be up there in league leaders in terms of percentage of stats during garbage time.   Of course, I have no interest in looking at the numbers, but if you'd like to actually backup the assertion that he's not an outlier in terms of garbage time stats, then by all means, feel free to do that leg work.

Just now, EricAllenPick6 said:

More Ruggs stuff -- Shannon Sharpe sounds pissed.

https://www.tmz.com/2021/11/12/shannon-sharpe-henry-ruggs-car-crash-nfl-career-las-vegas-raiders/

Apparently, both the NFL and individual teams have services that will come and give you rides.  Maybe it's because I'm lazy, but man if I had a free ride to / from parties I would absolutely use that. 

Yes, this is nothing new.  Its been around for decades.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

The yards he had after being down 42-23 to the Chiefs all came on the final drive of that game.  Which would be a total of 63 yards out of 434 total yards that game for Hurts.  

 

The Eagles went down 27-7 to start the 3rd quarter of the Cowboys game so you are then saying nothing he did in the second half should be counted.  Similar for the Raiders too.  So your gripe seems to be that you want Hurts to have the lsoer mentality that you apparently have and just quit when knocked down. 

 

Yup that’s it. Keep telling yourself that. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 

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9 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

The yards he had after being down 42-23 to the Chiefs all came on the final drive of that game.  Which would be a total of 63 yards out of 434 total yards that game for Hurts.  

The Eagles went down 27-7 to start the 3rd quarter of the Cowboys game so you are then saying nothing he did in the second half should be counted.  Similar for the Raiders too.  So your gripe seems to be that you want Hurts to have the lsoer mentality that you apparently have and just quit when knocked down. 

You keep making this assertion and it's just not true.  The point is that using his GROSS stats to make an argument about how effective he has been is disingenuous as he's been getting to put up easy stats against softer defenses in the garbage time periods.   That doesn't mean he should curl up in a ball... it's to add context to the gross numbers.

25 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No my math isn’t. Your using quarters. You keep referring to quarters which not my argument. I’m using his amount of yards he had after being down 42-23 to the chiefs, after being down 27-7 to Dallas and after being down 30-7 to the raiders. The total amount of yards he accumulated in those three instances were 488 yards and 4 touchdown passes. 

so here’s how mathematics work here. He has 2369 total yards. In those three instances he had 488 yards. Take the 488 yards and divided it by 2369 total yards. Which equals 20.6%. Youre welcome for the math lesson 

and fyi the Dallas game when down 27-7 was in the third quarter with 14 mins left. So that’s 2 quarters alone. And the raiders game they got down 30-7 with 6 mins left in the third. So your 2 quarters is still wrong. 

 

 

Absolutely ridiculous premesise.  Was he supposed to lay down and quit like you apparently would have in the second half of the Cowboys and Raiders game? Just to appease your hate of him? 

 

14 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Not all those yards are extra because of garbage time. Yes they happened during garbage time. However if it wasn’t garbage time then he would have had stats still. How many? Who knows? But garbage time isn’t extra playing time. You’re acting like he would have had 0 stats if the scores were 20-20.

This reason and the fact that every QB has garbage time makes this argument useless.

ummm that cowboys game they had less than 110 yards up until that point. So it wasn’t like he was putting them up prior to that. Meanwhile after getting 20 and 27 they put up 212. Clearly the eagles didn’t benefit from the garbage time   

Would he have put up stats? Yeah but significantly less cause he was playing like crap. That’s the point. So the argument is useless because he plays like crap to that point? because of that he got the benefit of garbage time to stats pad. Congrats we have kirk cousins mr. Top 10 yards every year basically doing the same thing. I guess we should all look at cousins differently because garbage time argument is useless now. 

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

Absolutely ridiculous premesise.  Was he supposed to lay down and quit like you apparently would have in the second half of the Cowboys and Raiders game? Just to appease your hate of him? 

Yup that’s exactly what i said. we should totally praise him for the yards he got after playing so bad for 2.5 quarters that we got into garbage time so we could finally capitalize. Maybe with how much you love and adore him you should throw him a parade celebrating the horrific first half against the cowboys and 2.5 quarters against the raiders but magically he turned it around once they got down by 3 scores when the game was decided. You can call it the yards are yards parade. 

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

No.  Every QB has garbage time stats... but that doesn't mean that they have 20+% of their stats in 'garbage time'.   He's gotta be up there in league leaders in terms of percentage of stats during garbage time.   Of course, I have no interest in looking at the numbers, but if you'd like to actually backup the assertion that he's not an outlier in terms of garbage time stats, then by all means, feel free to do that leg work.

Yes, this is nothing new.  Its been around for decades.

So you have zero facts or stats to backup your assertion that he is a league leader? I’m not doing the leg work for you. Those stats are pretty important if you’re wanting to discredit Jalen Hurt’s stats and use garbage time as the argument. Im just pointing out why that is flawed. I’m not saying you’re wrong or right. But you need those numbers for your argument or it’s useless.

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You keep making this assertion and it's just not true.  The point is that using his GROSS stats to make an argument about how effective he has been is disingenuous as he's been getting to put up easy stats against softer defenses in the garbage time periods.   That doesn't mean he should curl up in a ball... it's to add context to the gross numbers.

My point is the numbers are inflated. Like celebrating he is 7th in the league for QBs in total yards. That’s basically what kirk cousins career has been. Cousins does the same thing routinely. Beats up bad defenses. When they play good teams he has 1-2 games he plays well then a bunch where they get down by a lot and he puts up hallow garbage stats that at the end of the year helps him look better Ont he back of a sports card. And yet i dont see anyone of us praise cousins as a guy we must build around or even a top tier Qb. 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup that’s exactly what i said. we should totally praise him for the yards he got after playing so bad for 2.5 quarters that we got into garbage time so we could finally capitalize. Maybe with how much you love and adore him you should throw him a parade celebrating the horrific first half against the cowboys and 2.5 quarters against the raiders but magically he turned it around once they got down by 3 scores when the game was decided. You can call it the yards are yards parade. 

 

Maybe one day this team can obtain a QB with that loser mentality you strive for. 

22 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Maybe one day this team can obtain a QB with that loser mentality you strive for. 

Maybe one day we can have a scout that tells us to bench nick foles to start sudfeld in his first career start in a division playoff game cause that gives us a better chance because that’s the scouting you strive for. Or maybe we go with your loser mentality that the season was utterly utterly hopeless and over once wentz got hurt. 

58 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Id give this dbag an extra 10 years for this Fing garbage defense 

 

 

Taking a life, crying on the side of the street, and blaming the event on the people who tried to save it.  Extra 10 years sounds about right.

I’d love Pickett in round 3.  Love.  Give him a chance and then don’t feel bad about it when you move on.

 

Hes not a round 1 talent.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I’d love Pickett in round 3.  Love.  Give him a chance and then don’t feel bad about it when you move on.

 

Hes not a round 1 talent.

I don’t think he lasts til 3. Possibility in round 2 depending on combine and pro days. I tend to think corral, Pickett and Willis find their way into the first round.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Taking a life, crying on the side of the street, and blaming the event on the people who tried to save it.  Extra 10 years sounds about right.

plus a beating for the supposed witness that has to be getting paid or a complete POS for that statement.

Third is too early for Pickett IMO. If you watched the game closely last night, any time he really had to drive the ball like an NFL QB (before the rain storm), it wasn't really a pretty result. His ceiling is Teddy Bridgewater, but more likely he's a 10 year backup.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I’d love Pickett in round 3.  Love.  Give him a chance and then don’t feel bad about it when you move on.

 

Hes not a round 1 talent.

yeah the teams 3 1st need to be used on defense and maybe 1 playmaking starter on offense.

2 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

plus a beating for the supposed witness that has to be getting paid or a complete POS for that statement.

Good point.  

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t think he lasts til 3. Possibility in round 2 depending on combine and pro days. I tend to think corral, Pickett and Willis find their way into the first round.

He’s gonna be round 1 for sure, IMO.

12 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

so what your saying is, you dont know how garbage time works. 

Garbage time is when the defense changes its entire scheme and doesnt really care what you do as long as it stays in front of them.

Allowing the other team to go 7-9, for 85 yards and score a touchdown because no one cares. 

 

No? I’m saying he would have stats in that time frame if it wasn’t garbage time as well. I agree he doesn’t do as well in the case. But he is taking all those stats and subtracting them do prove his point. It doesn't work that way.