What's your favorite 'non-traditional' Thanksgiving side dish?  

32 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I agree with what he's saying but does Hurts even look for WR2/3 or TE2?  

 

23 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Yeah, not slighting Ertz in the least. I thought Solak's point that Hurts was a TE2 and WR2 away was bizarre.

I interpreted it as a knock on Hurts. Not saying he needs a TE2 or WR2, just that he barely looks at anyone besides Goedert or Smith in the passing game.

3 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

Really enjoying the tough running game. My only concern is other teams KNOW what Hurts is doing and what the Eagles are doing, so they can adjust and shut the running game and Hurts down. What gave me hope concerning that, is the #1 D in the NFL knew it was coming, and couldn't stop it. Can the Eagles sustain this type of offense, with the league adjusting to it? I hope so.

That's the whole enchilada.

If the #1 rush D in the NFL, the 9th best Rush D in history through 10 weeks, couldn't even slow our run game, no one can.

51 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Jackson 9-6 record

Hurts 6-9 record

Not knocking Hurts but the difference is Lamar’s explosiveness wins games at times. He has walkoffs 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

 

What's your favorite 'non-traditional' Thanksgiving side dish?  

Bourbon 

40 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s a copycat league so what Miami did on that Thursday night game I suspect a lot of teams are going to try to use that formula against lamar going forward. As bad as Miami has been that was a great gameplan. I’m curious to see how lamar responds to it the next time he plays and sees it cause he didn’t play against the bears on Sunday. The browns have the personnel to run a similar gameplan that the dolphins had. 

I didn't really pay attention to it, but what did Miami do? 

10 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

Really enjoying the tough running game. My only concern is other teams KNOW what Hurts is doing and what the Eagles are doing, so they can adjust and shut the running game and Hurts down. What gave me hope concerning that, is the #1 D in the NFL knew it was coming, and couldn't stop it. Can the Eagles sustain this type of offense, with the league adjusting to it? I hope so.

They (namely Hurts) will have to continue to grow the passing game in order to be a sustainable threat.

I think he can, how much he can is the great mystery. 

But having an offense that starts with physicality and power running is a good foundation to start from.

8 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

That's the whole enchilada.

If the #1 rush D in the NFL, the 9th best Rush D in history through 10 weeks, couldn't even slow our run game, no one can.

In fairness, it's also the same defense that let Hurts run 18 times for 106 yards in his first career start.  Preparation wasn't their strong suit in either game.

Other teams will be more prepared.

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

This really strips context. A WR screen is more about the play call then what Smith did. The same with Smith’s longer catch. 

Those are schemed plays. Smith didn’t line up across from him and beat him. He had a lot of help. 

Which routes did he toast Lattimore?

It does.  Most pass plays aren’t about the receiver just beating the defender and vis versa.   They are schemed open.  But they don’t work without the WR running the play in such a way to achieve the goal against the defense.  By the same token, we have to consider the other players on the field and the defensive scheme and camouflage of that scheme.. For example, what role in his success did Lattimore have safety help over the top that allowed him to play Smith as he did?  What role did the DL have in the DB’s success?   Etc. It’s a team game and schemes on both sides of the ball and help on both sides of the ball.  So what we saw was excellent play by both Lattimore and Smith.  There is no denying both have fluid hips but Smith did manage to juke Lattimore just enough. 

14 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Nope. The throw was on time. He had cleared the defenders.

So utterly incorrect.  Go watch it again.  Wide open early, it was an obvious pick play that worked perfectly and if he throws it as he opens the middle of the field is Smiths for the taking.  Instead Hurts holds and holds until Smith is across the field forcing the offensive line to block much longer than needed and runs Smith into the outside  receivers coverage. The whole point of the play was to get the ball in Smith's hands quickly with the middle of the field cleared out.  Executed perfectly by all accept Hurts.

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I didn't really pay attention to it, but what did Miami do? 

Pretty good description of what they did. Used a ton of cover 0 blitzes and some other blitzes as well. The ravens had the middle of the field open a good portion of that game and lamar got jittery at times in the pocket and felt like he wanted to just take off but had no lanes and when he did throw kept trying to attack on the perimeter 

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-dolphins-film-study-20211115-x2ratbc5zfbfnlzhkawffwlzuy-story.html?outputType=amp

I was far more impressed by Lattimore in those clips than I was disappointed in Smith. I wanted the Eagles to trade up for him so bad in that draft...

7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

In fairness, it's also the same defense that let Hurts run 18 times for 106 yards in his first career start.  Preparation wasn't their strong suit in either game.

Other teams will be more prepared.

I’d also put the saints complimentary football was awful in the first 3 quarters outside of sanders fumble. Their first 11 possessions the saints had drives end in under 60 seconds on 7. And time of possession was 30-15 in the eagles favor. I don’t care how good of a defense you are, when you’re on the field that much (some of it is on their defense not getting off the field too) and your offense is turning it over three times in that span the damn is going to eventually break. 

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I was far more impressed by Lattimore in those clips than I was disappointed in Smith. I wanted the Eagles to trade up for him so bad in that draft...

Same. He was my crush in that draft.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Pretty good description of what they did. Used a ton of cover 0 blitzes and some other blitzes as well. The ravens had the middle of the field open a good portion of that game and lamar got jittery at times in the pocket and felt like he wanted to just take off but had no lanes and when he did throw kept trying to attack on the perimeter 

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-dolphins-film-study-20211115-x2ratbc5zfbfnlzhkawffwlzuy-story.html?outputType=amp

That sounds like a pretty sound plan against Hurts to

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

So utterly incorrect.  Go watch it again.  Wide open early, it was an obvious pick play that worked perfectly and if he throws it as he opens the middle of the field is Smiths for the taking.  Instead Hurts holds and holds until Smith is across the field forcing the offensive line to block much longer than needed and runs Smith into the outside  receivers coverage. The whole point of the play was to get the ball in Smith's hands quickly with the middle of the field cleared out.  Executed perfectly by all accept Hurts.

Except there was an LB in the middle of the field....an early throw and Smith gets crushed, or the LB makes a play on the ball. Hurts had to wait on Smith clearing the LB to throw it, which he did. It was well done by him, because he had to trust his protection holding up, which it did just long enough. 

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

That sounds like a pretty sound plan against Hurts to

He has been really good against cover 0.

3 hours ago, justrelax said:

All-22 still not up. 🤬

Chalking that up to short staff on a holiday week. 

16 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

In fairness, it's also the same defense that let Hurts run 18 times for 106 yards in his first career start.  Preparation wasn't their strong suit in either game.

Other teams will be more prepared.

Bring em' on.

Our O-line are the biggest bullies in the NFL, they'll thrash them too.

6 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Except there was an LB in the middle of the field....an early throw and Smith gets crushed, or the LB makes a play on the ball. Hurts had to wait on Smith clearing the LB to throw it, which he did. It was well done by him, because he had to trust his protection holding up, which it did just long enough. 

Smith is already behind the LB- the LB is staying in the middle spying Hurts.  If the ball is on time Smith can immediately cut up field leaving the LB in the dust.  The point is get the ball out on time as designed.  Don't wait, don't make the offensive line risk penalty, don't throw a lob off the back foot.  Step and throw to the Wide Open reciever.

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Chalking that up to short staff on a holiday week. 

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23 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

They (namely Hurts) will have to continue to grow the passing game in order to be a sustainable threat.

I think he can, how much he can is the great mystery. 

But having an offense that starts with physicality and power running is a good foundation to start from.

Excellent answer. 

9 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

That sounds like a pretty sound plan against Hurts to

I didn’t really understand their gameplan of trying to force feed Hollywood Brown on the perimeter with quick short passes. I thought they should’ve had Bateman or Andrews in the middle of the field and just kept doing it all night. those guys had a combined 14 target and caught 12 passes. And were effective when the ravens decided to go to them later in the game and that’s when they actually moved the ball. Whereas Hollywood Brown had 13 targets alone and had 6 receptions and 37 yards. It felt like the ravens were just hoping that brown would eventually bust one. I thought Andrews could’ve had a monster day if they just kept targeting him. 

6 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Smith is already behind the LB- the LB is staying in the middle spying Hurts.  If the ball is on time Smith can immediately cut up field leaving the LB in the dust.  The point is get the ball out on time as designed.  Don't wait, don't make the offensive line risk penalty, don't throw a lob off the back foot.  Step and throw to the Wide Open reciever.

 

 

Here's the play in question. Where exactly are you suggesting he throw it? AFTER he gets behind the LB?? The LB would either jump or just reach up and knock it down? I could see maybe an argument to throw it immediately after the picks, but then again, you'd run Smith directly into that LB. 

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

@HazletonEagle Can you believe Alex Singleton isn’t in the top 5?

Well now, we could do something about that. Real secret would seem to be figuring out what players on other teams have escalator clauses that could hurt the other team’s cap and vote for them.   Surprised that isn’t a thing given what a joke the pro bowl is.  Or picking a player that could use the trip near the end of his career.