5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Formal offer I’m not sure. I know agent joel corry stated the eagles were trying to deal goedert as part of the deal for watson after the new came out about ertz being dealt to Arizona. Said it’s why ertz wasn’t dealt to Buffalo earlier in the season/offseason. 

I look at it this way. The Eagles did their investigation on it. There was a report they sent dom and others to investigate (i want to say it was inside the birds in May/June). I really think this comes down to lurie probably listened to what they found out.  Thought he’s 27 and top 10 QB so he could have his franchise QB for over a decade if we made the trade and he didn’t believe he’s going to wind up in prison.

It doesn't mean the Eagles offered Goedert.  It may mean the Texans said he would need to be included or he was the only player they would consider trading for as part of the deal.  I don't think that means there was an offer.  It just meant that there was a discussion.  

51 minutes ago, greend said:

Wasn't that Miami?

I can't remember I just remember being disgusted.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Again depends on what you believe. Agent Joel corry stated they were trying to include goedert in a deal for watson at the end of august which was the hold up for ertz not going to Buffalo. Maybe he’s BSing and just wrong but Corry hasn’t had a reputation where he just throws things out there just to be in the spotlight 

I am not saying Corry is lying.  I just don't think that discussing a trade is a formal offer.  

Hurts is playing. They're trying to do the competitive advantage that Doug tried all of the time

Surprised about Howard though

They should look into that type of back for the future

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It doesn't mean the Eagles offered Goedert.  It may mean the Texans said he would need to be included or he was the only player they would consider trading for as part of the deal.  I don't think that means there was an offer.  It just meant that there was a discussion.  

The fact that they got to the point where howie had a change of heart and changed his mind on one trade with ertz because they might have to include a player in another trade. That to me is way more than they just discussed Watson. That tells me they didn’t think it was impossible they could acquire watson and they would make a move for watson. Formal offer or not they were in on doing a trade for him. if corry is speaking the truth, feels they were actively trying to acquire him and discussing what it would take 

Eagles executive vice-president/general manager Howie Roseman almost dealt Ertz to Buffalo in July, but had a change of heart. Goedert's possible inclusion in a potential trade with the Texans for Deshaun Watson kept Roseman from pulling the trigger on an Ertz deal

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Hurts is playing. They're trying to do the competitive advantage that Doug tried all of the time

Surprised about Howard though

They should look into that type of back for the future

He might be playing but it's beyond a competitive advantage. First, it's ridiculous to even resort to that level against the f'ing Jets. Second, you don't split reps 50/50 during the week just for some advantage that the other team probably isn't falling for. And teams can't play around with the injury designations. 

The real competitive advantage would be starting Minshew. There's no film on him with the Eagles or Sirianni, Jets probably have been planning on Hurts, and Jets saw Hurts during joint practices but not Minshew. 

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Hurts is playing. They're trying to do the competitive advantage that Doug tried all of the time

Surprised about Howard though

They should look into that type of back for the future

I do think they need a physical RB.  I mean Howard isn't necessarily a super physical runner.  He's just a north/south runner with good balance.  Fournette is a UFA next season.  The Eagles could make @HazletonEagle's dream come true by signing him.  I think he would be a good fit.  

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So the two takeaways from the article 

1. Lurie is higher on hurts than howie but from what i gather doesn’t say how much higher lurie is. Because another piece of info was the second takeaway 

2. That lurie was the driving force behind the eagles interest and going after watson. From the article "The Eagles did preliminary work on Watson and were open to the possibility of a transaction with the Texans, even in light of multiple sexual assault allegations, sources said. While this would seem to go against Lurie’s edict, Hurts would have either left in the exchange or dropped on the depth chart. A move of such magnitude couldn’t occur without owner approval, of course. In fact, Lurie was believed to be the driving force behind his team’s interest, the two sources familiar with his thinking said. "Jeffrey has his principles,” an NFL source who worked with the Eagles said, "until it comes to quarterbacks.”

So if I'm a DT and I sexually assault 20+ women then Lurie out of principle doesn't want me to be part of his team and culture, but if one is a QB then hey welcome to the team let bygones be bygones principles be damned,it was just a little sexual assault no biggie...😒

 

 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He might be playing but it's beyond a competitive advantage. First, it's ridiculous to even resort to that level against the f'ing Jets. Second, you don't split reps 50/50 during the week just for some advantage that the other team probably isn't falling for. And teams can't play around with the injury designations. 

The real competitive advantage would be starting Minshew. There's no film on him with the Eagles or Sirianni, Jets probably have been planning on Hurts, and Jets saw Hurts during joint practices but not Minshew. 

I hated how Doug kept everything hidden for some competitive advantage that wasn't really there

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

So if I'm a DT and I sexually assault 20+ women then Lurie out of principle doesn't want me to be part of his team and culture, but if one is a QB then hey welcome to the team let bygones be bygones principles be damned,it was just a little sexual assault no biggie...😒

 

 

Did this happen with a DT?

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

So if I'm a DT and I sexually assault 20+ women then Lurie out of principle doesn't want me to be part of his team and culture, but if one is a QB then hey welcome to the team let bygones be bygones principles be damned,it was just a little sexual assault no biggie...😒

 

 

alleged sexual assaults and yes.

44 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

They played a snippet of a John Clark - Doug Pederson interview on WIP that has Pederson in his way indicating that it was Roseman who chose Reagor over Jefferson.  

Doesn’t Howie have final say on all players, unless Lurie overrules him?  Hopefully that doesn’t happen, but Lurie is the owner. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

alleged sexual assaults and yes.

The point was that Lowie will abandon their principles for a QB, makes one wonder what else they abandon their principles for.

No worries just lost what little respect I had for Lowie.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

More gamesmanship than anything with this.  Why would the Eagles tip their hand?   

Meanwhile, it would be hysterical to see a Minshew-Flacco matchup on Sunday.

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The fact that they got to the point where howie had a change of heart and changed his mind on one trade with ertz because they might have to include a player in another trade. That to me is way more than they just discussed Watson. That tells me they didn’t think it was impossible they could acquire watson and they were in on making a move 

Eagles executive vice-president/general manager Howie Roseman almost dealt Ertz to Buffalo in July, but had a change of heart. Goedert's possible inclusion in a potential trade with the Texans for Deshaun Watson kept Roseman from pulling the trigger on an Ertz deal

I don't disagree. It just doesn't mean there was any kind of formal offer.  There were discussions and the question is whether the Texans wanted Goedert or Howie offered him.  Certainly there were discussions.  It's not the same as Lurie signing off on a trade for Watson.  They could have had something worked out and Lurie still might have killed the deal.  I think the discussions are just one part of the trade.  

 The podcast that Doug did with the Athletic a few months ago was much better. Particulars weren’t really mentioned, but he pretty much took the blame for 2020, and gave credit to Stoutland for their running plays in 2017. 
 He’s definitely not an X’s and O’s coach like Chip, much more of a CEO type coach who shouldn’t be calling plays. 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

More gamesmanship than anything with this.  Why would the Eagles tip their hand?   

Meanwhile, it would be hysterical to see a Minshew-Flacco matchup on Sunday.

I don't really agree. Why split reps all week to play against the Jets of all teams? Hurts already said Wednesday he's playing, so how much gamesmanship is there really?

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just going to leave this here with no commentary 

I doubt it. Doug was great with veteran players, but sucked at developing rookies and young players. That is part of the reason why he is not here anymore.

Great guy, will always be thankful to him for the Super Bowl run, but I don't think the Eagles would be any better right now and possibly could have a worst record with him.

17 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't disagree. It just doesn't mean there was any kind of formal offer.  There were discussions and the question is whether the Texans wanted Goedert or Howie offered him.  Certainly there were discussions.  It's not the same as Lurie signing off on a trade for Watson.  They could have had something worked out and Lurie still might have killed the deal.  I think the discussions are just one part of the trade.  

Based off that story/source Jeffrey lurie was the driving force behind them going after watson. so if we believe that on face value I have a hard time believing lurie killed the deal when he was the one who according to sources was pushing for it. That would ultimately contradict what the story is saying as it pertains to lurie pushing to acquire watson. I do believe lurie wouldn’t make the deal until all these cases were settled but I’m guessing that’s any team in the watson trade market. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't really agree. Why split reps all week to play against the Jets of all teams? Hurts already said Wednesday he's playing, so how much gamesmanship is there really?

Just in case he aggravates it during the game and needs to come out... take some of the added stress off the ankle by limiting his reps.

7 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The point was that Lowie will abandon their principles for a QB, makes one wonder what else they abandon their principles for.

No worries just lost what little respect I had for Lowie.

This may be the appropriate time to point out Watson hasn't even been charged with a crime yet.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

This may be the appropriate time to point out Watson hasn't even been charged with a crime yet.

It's not the point, the point is that Lowie are willing to drop their " principles" when it comes to QB.

 

I wanna be first, jets beat the eagles

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

It's not the point, the point is that Lowie are willing to drop their " principles" when it comes to QB.

 

What principles?  No person that walks into a massage parlor can ever play NFL football?

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Just in case he aggravates it during the game and needs to come out... take some of the added stress off the ankle by limiting his reps.

Sure but all week? Usually what you see is LP the first two practices and then the last is a FP. I think he ends up playing but I also think the injury is more than nothing.