Miles Sanders needs to stop getting a pass. He isn’t good and he’s always injured.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Then I pass on that deal.   I can ride with Minshew.  But, I think Carr is better than Minshew and that helps the offense actually get properly installed and run it properly.  Minshew likely can to a certain extent, but not as much.

Oh I agree. In an ideal world i want carr over minshew to help with the offense and development of our young guys. He’s a much better QB than minshew.

i’ve said this for a couple months i think they are going to be very active in that Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson market. I don’t think they come away with either one but I think they’re definitely see them being actively in and and aggressively so. When they can’t acquire either, I think they’re just gonna go back to Jalen hurts. Not the decision i would make 

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

But those Philly fans threw snowballs 6 decades ago!   Worst fans in America.

Yeah because obviously malcontents throwing snowballs (for good reason) is way more sinister than making personal verbal attacks towards a players family. Everybody just likes having a fanbase they can vilify, I am fine with that. 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

The goal is to avoid doing what Indy did with Wentz.  They overestimated the overall talent of their team and thought they’d contend simply by adding a decent, reasonably young qb.  Then they realized their team wasn’t good enough, their new qb wasn’t good enough, and torched 1st and 3rd round picks in the process.

We aren’t contending for anything with Carr under center.  So the question is…what are we willing to give up for a temporary qb solution that restores a more functional offense and helps the WRs to develop?  And does our FO have enough insight to realize that it’s a temporary solution and they need to keep looking?  I agree that Carr > Minshew, but is Minshew good enough to fill that aforementioned role?  

I've already stated it... a 3rd round pick.    And yes, I think Carr would be sufficiently better than Minshew (specifically in opening up the deep balls) and make Watkins truly a threat.

I'd love Derek Carr, but he's going to cost 2 1sts + 35M/Y.

1 minute ago, SB52 said:

Miles Sanders needs to stop getting a pass. He isn’t good and he’s always injured.

he is always injured, and he takes to many negative plays. But he is good. 

1 minute ago, SB52 said:

Miles Sanders needs to stop getting a pass. He isn’t good and he’s always injured.

He hasnt, many including myself said we would not resign him unless its a dirt cheap deal. 

35 minutes ago, RLC said:

This play kills me. Reagor if he just keeps running gives Goedert a 1 on 1 against a DB on a jump ball. 

Reagor's lazyness lets Dean come up and attack Goedert. Hurts' throw was good! 

This is just pure effort. Reagor constantly lets down the QB.

Reagor is a bum. Hurts also sucks though. Smith and Watkins are good receivers. Hardly worth firing your receivers coach over. 

Just now, SB52 said:

Miles Sanders needs to stop getting a pass. He isn’t good and he’s always injured.

He’ll get his pass when it comes time to talk about a contract extension.  He’ll be RB1 on the depth chart next year because they hate offending players, but he’ll get fewer touches than ever in a deep rotation and will quietly walk away at the end of the deal.

Todd Bowles' gameplan was borderline cartoonish yesterday. Load the box, play the CBs so far off you could barely see them on the TV broadcast. Intermediate throws were consistently there for chunk gains if Hurts was on-time.

This was easily Hurts' worst concerning performance because it was the most blatantly targeted defense he's ever played in the NFL, and he was as bad as he's ever been against it.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

I'd love Derek Carr, but he's going to cost 2 1sts + 35M/Y.

In that case... very hard pass.  No interest in that.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The goal is to avoid doing what Indy did with Wentz.  They overestimated the overall talent of their team and thought they’d contend simply by adding a decent, reasonably young qb.  Then they realized their team wasn’t good enough, their new qb wasn’t good enough, and torched 1st and 3rd round picks in the process.

We aren’t contending for anything with Carr under center.  So the question is…what are we willing to give up for a temporary qb solution that restores a more functional offense and helps the WRs to develop?  And does our FO have enough insight to realize that it’s a temporary solution and they need to keep looking?  I agree that Carr > Minshew, but is Minshew good enough to fill that aforementioned role?  

I don't think that's a fair comparison. Carr has been a good, productive quarterback for years. Outside of 2017, Wentz was always mediocre-to-bad and they thought they could make him better.

Just now, RLC said:

I'd love Derek Carr, but he's going to cost 2 1sts + 35M/Y.

Trading for a QB does this team no good. The only way you trade for a Qb is if the team is a QB away from a SB run. We are far from it. 

You either draft a QB and build the team through draft/Fa around him (Chiefs)

or

Build the team first in the next few years and then get the QB to fill that last spot (Bucs)

1 minute ago, greend said:

Reagor is a bum. Hurts also sucks though. Smith and Watkins are good receivers. Hardly worth firing your receivers coach over. 

The thing that pisses you off with reagor is that Daniel Jeremiah had a good rant about this issue coming out of TCU. To me I dislike taking players who half ass it on the field in college. Because once they get paid in the pros it’s not gonna change. He should’ve been busting his ass at TCU to be as high a draft pick as possible and yet he was still half assing it there. Additionally his dad was a NFL player so he had to know what it took to stay at that level and succeed at the NFL level yet he still does what he does. That is such a major red flag

50 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He's not even close.  

Kevin Allen leaps to mind.
Bernard Williams is high up there.
Bruce Walker definitely gets a nod, but was a 2nd rounder, but he couldn't even get out of TC on the roster.
Danny Watkins?
Micheal Haddix?

Reagor is bad, and its exacerbated by the fact that the guy right after him, at the same position is an All-Pro type WR already... but Reagor isn't as bad as those guys.

Jon Harris

10 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

 

Of course he walks away like the mentally fragile ice cream topping that he is.

Just now, Desertbirds said:

Jon Harris

There's another one.

23 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I said it at the end of the regular season and I’ll say it again…

The Hurts humpers are mostly harmless, irrational Eagles fans who just want him to do well.  The national media has some sort of agenda with Hurts and doesn’t give 2 craps if the Eagles win.  So I don’t really care that those groups call Hurts special and deserving of patience.  
 

But it’s very concerning that the Eagles brass actually bought into this.  The damn Giants coach called our offense a gimmick and every DC just makes their entire game plan to dare us to let our QB throw the football.  Imagine that.  And Eagles brass actually gave this guy a full season and a half as the starter.  Forget 2022…I think it’s a massive indictment of their judgement that he has already started for this long.  
 

What confidence does that give you when they select the next qb?

The Hurts humpers are mostly haters of Wentz that wanted him gone under all circumstances and now they can't bring themselves to admit that Hurts isn't the answer (I don't think Wentz is anymore either)

42 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Agreed.  Watkins was praised for always being where he needed to be.  And Smith was open a ton.

Case in point...The interception yesterday on the throw to Smith.  Smith was wide open.  But Hurts was drifting left and needed to plant his feet to make the throw.  QBs with real arm strength would be able to make that throw from a moving platform.  

Piling on...Aikman pointed out more than once that the ball was not being delivered on time.

Same two issues all year.

Watkins got better for sure. That’s the point for Moorehead. I can’t say he had much impact on Smith. He was pretty polished coming in. 

To me, the biggest issue is that we didn’t look particularly well coached at the position.

* Reagor makes the same mistakes over and over. He’s gotten worse. Maybe he isn’t salvageable, but he clearly isn’t reaching him.

* Watkins and Reagor both give up on too many routes. 

* How many times did our WRs screw up pick plays or get called for OPI on WR screens? That goes for Watkins, JJAW and Smith. 

Combine all of that with WR being Sirianni’s baby and the fact that Moorehead’s retention came down to not being able to secure a better option … I think he’s on the hot seat. 

3 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Trading for a QB does this team no good. The only way you trade for a Qb is if the team is a QB away from a SB run. We are far from it. 

You either draft a QB and build the team through draft/Fa around him (Chiefs)

or

Build the team first in the next few years and then get the QB to fill that last spot (Bucs)

Unfortunately the QB is just too important.  If you can get a great one now, do it.  The chances are slim this off season but do it if possible. 

6 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Trading for a QB does this team no good. The only way you trade for a Qb is if the team is a QB away from a SB run. We are far from it. 

You either draft a QB and build the team through draft/Fa around him (Chiefs)

or

Build the team first in the next few years and then get the QB to fill that last spot (Bucs)

I agree. It's why I want to trade 2022 1sts for 2023 1sts and see what Hurts does in 2022. If we're average or below, we trade up for a young QB.

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

I'd love Derek Carr, but he's going to cost 2 1sts + 35M/Y.

Yeah, anyone talking about him as a stopgap aren’t realizing how much he’d actually cost to acquire. 

He’s not a stop gap. He’d be here to be the guy for the next 4-5 years. 

13 hours ago, Know Life said:

The only thing that could’ve made that better is if he had Plaxico’d himself.

Who the hell carries a pistol in their pocket while watching  a football game at their house? Oh a Cowboys fan that's right. 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

I agree. It's why I want to trade 2022 1sts for 2023 1sts and see what Hurts does in 2022. If we're average or below, we trade up for a young QB.

The 2023 QB class isn't great either.  The consensus top pick is Bryce Young, followed by Stroud.  Uninspiring.