10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I said it last night, the language that Gruden used 10 years ago was VERY common in locker rooms.

He was let go because of additional emails discovered which spanned 7 years -- so perhaps far more recent.

8 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

 

40 burger coming….

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Bills really make no sense with Knox emerging. He’s been awesome. Cardinals make more sense especially with Maxx Williams out 

Cardinals have 1 tight end on the roster.  They make all the sense in the world.  5-0, potential SB rep from the NFC.

8 minutes ago, hputenis said:

This sentence calls for a funny Urban Meyer in London meme please.  

I'd watch a 24 hour live stream of Urban and Boris Johnson hitting up the town. 

16 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Why?  So he can totally misuse his personnel, run a vanilla scheme, and put Lawrence in a position to get killed every time he drops back?  

Shut up taintlick 

15 minutes ago, hputenis said:

This sentence calls for a funny Urban Meyer in London meme please.  

The girls name apparently was cayman Nebraska. Sorry but that sounds like a porno name 

13 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Here's a sleeper team for ya. Cincy 

I actually said them last week too. They make a ton of sense 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

100% correct.  You you grouped all the women together for doing that.  You never would mention it was only 2 girls that did.  You grouped them all together as doing that.  Same thing with the one girl that was being looked at by the FBI.  You would group them all together and say they were all being investigated.

You didn't hold back at all in slandering these victims of Watson because you want him to play for the Eagles.  What you did all summer was far worse than what Gruden did.  

 No it's not.  It's not acceptable behavior and any company would fire someone who expressed the kind of opinions he did about it's leadership.  

16 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

40 burger coming….

Don't forget he put a band-aid on his thumb so he can make it more dramatic.  

2 hours ago, NYEagle said:

Nope, we have Dickerson.....this defense needs so much help, I'd be good with our whole next draft being pumped into defense.  Figuring Howie is going to f up half of them, maybe he'd gump his way to 3 or 4 impactful, pro bowl level players.

   Last Pro Bowl player drafted was Wentz in 2016.  He's gone.  Last Pro Bowlers before that were Ertz and Johnson in 2013.  They are on their way out.  Last Pro Bowler before that was Fletcher Cox in 2012.   And all of a sudden a guy who can't draft to save his life is going to somehow magically land 3 or 4 in a single draft?  

19 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

He was let go because of additional emails discovered which spanned 7 years -- so perhaps far more recent.

The emails will get published and the question is going to be who else gets hit by the scandal.  

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

   Last Pro Bowl player drafted was Wentz in 2016.  He's gone.  Last Pro Bowlers before that were Ertz and Johnson in 2013.  They are on their way out.  Last Pro Bowler before that was Fletcher Cox in 2012.   And all of a sudden a guy who can't draft to save his life is going to somehow magically land 3 or 4 in a single draft?  

It's a lot easier to draft a pro bowl player in the top 10 of a draft.  

10 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

 No it's not.  It's not acceptable behavior and any company would fire someone who expressed the kind of opinions he did about it's leadership.  

Lol imagine thinking it's any more complicated than this. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There’s been rumors that Doug might be the guy  Mayock chooses to be the next coach of the raiders. That’s assuming mayock isn’t fired soon either

I’m guessing if the NFL,  did help out Davis, they’ll want a certain hire in return, Oprah maybe?  
 Seriously though, two guys I think should get a shot, Bowles, and Leftwich.  
 Doug in Jacksonville with no real football media, and a good young QB, seems like a good fit. It’s looking like Miami will be looking for a coach as well. 

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

 No it's not.  It's not acceptable behavior and any company would fire someone who expressed the kind of opinions he did about it's leadership.  

Slandering sexual assault victims is certainly worse than Gruden talking badly of Goodell when he was not employed by the NFL. 

1 hour ago, greend said:

I'm not going to get into this in here with you but the guy you are referring to also taught about sin. If you are going to use him in your argument at least use the whole story. We as a society do not care what he taught, and that is plain as day.

Don’t want to tread on your beliefs just as I am sure you don’t want to tread on mine.  

Javon Hargrave among DT’s 

Sacks: 6 (1st)
QB Hits: 9 (2nd)
TFL: 7 (1st)
Tackles: 27 (2nd)
FF: 1 (1st)

 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Slandering sexual assault victims is certainly worse than Gruden talking badly of Goodell when he was not employed by the NFL. 

It's not about worse. One is a nobody (sorry @downundermike) on an Eagles message board saying stuff. The other is the Gruden situation. Gruden's stupidity has consequences. He's completely free to write whatever he wants and send it to whoever he wants, nobody is stopping him from doing that. But, there'll be consequences to his words and actions. 

8 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Slandering sexual assault victims is certainly worse than Gruden talking badly of Goodell when he was not employed by the NFL. 

The fact that you think me questioning parts of the story, and actual slander are the same thing says a lot.

13 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

It's a lot easier to draft a pro bowl player in the top 10 of a draft.  

Sure.  Except that a lot of teams spend a lot of time drafting in the top 10 and never seem to get it right.   Ask a Lions' fan how that's working out for them.   

 

A lot of Pro Bowlers come from the Top 10.  More of them come from elsewhere in the draft.  Cox was not top 10.  Graham was not top 10.  Ertz was not top 10.  And... there were a lot of Pro Bowlers available that were sitting there when the Eagles were on the clock, but the Eagles whiffed and went a different direction.   Was not Justin Jefferson available when the Eagles selected Jalen Reagor?  Jeremy Chinn when they selected Jalen Hurts? (not a Pro Bowler yet, but soon will be). Plenty of others, but I won't list them all.

The idea that the top 10 is the only place to get Pro Bowlers is just wrong.  It is easier, but good teams have to find Pro Bowlers elsewhere in the draft, because they don't get access to the top 10 very often.   And if a GM can only find Pro Bowlers in the top 10, then maybe he shouldn't be the GM.   I don't want a GM who can only find top talent when he's at the top of the draft.  I need a GM who can find talent throughout the draft.   Because you need quality play from your 2nd round picks, 3rd round picks, and even 3rd day picks.  You can't just have high draft picks filling up the roster.  That's unsustainable.  

9 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

I’m guessing if the NFL,  did help out Davis, they’ll want a certain hire in return, Eric Bienemy

FYP

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

It's not about worse. One is a nobody (sorry @downundermike) on an Eagles message board saying stuff. The other is the Gruden situation. Gruden's stupidity has consequences. He's completely free to write whatever he wants and send it to whoever he wants, nobody is stopping him from doing that. But, there'll be consequences to his words and actions. 

Idk bookie bacarty is pretty well known in western Pa

1 hour ago, greend said:

I'm not going to get into this in here with you but the guy you are referring to also taught about sin. If you are going to use him in your argument at least use the whole story. We as a society do not care what he taught, and that is plain as day.

Nor should we, 1st amendment, "separation of church and state."

This was originally driven by the Baptists not wanting to finance the "state Church" (Anglicans, the Church of England, which became Episcopalians after the Revolution). And the Founding Fathers' knowledge of the European wars of religion, which for them wasn't the distant past. Keeping government out of religion allowed people to worship as they pleased.

In a secular society composed of people with different religions (including atheists, agnostics, Deists, Wiccans, Muslims, Jews, Mormons, 100 Protestant sects) and beliefs, enforcing one religion's moral code is a nonstarter (Christian sharia is no different than Islamic sharia). 

It is one thing for you to live by that code (though certain limits, we don't allow followers of Baal to conduct child sacrifice), quite another to impose it upon others who don't share your beliefs.

Though I am always amused by Christians who cherry pick the Old Testament for a prohibition against homosexuality. Seems their God is far more concerned with sexual predilections (even though every mammal engages in homosexual behavior) than social justice (helping the poor is a major theme of both the Old and New Testament, and usually the "sin" for which God punishes Israel).

33 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The NFL stands for ONE THING...$$$$$$.  The NFL as an organization has no morals.  They are hypocrites.

The emails that Gruden sent were private and we can argue about the language he used until we are blue in the face.  I said it last night, the language that Gruden used 10 years ago was VERY common in locker rooms.  Much of it was slang, not used in any homophobic way at all.  The world wasn't nearly as woke as it is today.  He was dumb to use his professional email address.

Gruden's emails were private.  The performers they have for the Super Bowl half time have made MILLIONS using the exact same language and the NFL is here promoting them and yes, making money from them.

The slang he used was always used in a homophobic manner.  There is no other context unless you're from Britain and talking about cigarettes.  The context in which he used was to specifically degrade a gay player as well as Goddell.   It wasn't acceptable in any kind of professional setting 10 years ago.  

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Don’t want to tread on your beliefs just as I am sure you don’t want to tread on mine.  

I have been asked not to "share in here" and I'm trying to honor that. If I remember you are one of the ones that asked me not to. I will however answer if I feel that things are not being portrayed properly.