1 minute ago, Gannan said:

Yeah my Afghanistan reference was to when the Soviets tried to conquer it. Our situation in Afghanistan was much different. We were thinking along the same lines.

And Vietnam?

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Not with the agreement Trump is proposing

There is nothing in that agreement compelling the Soviets to abide by it. Putin has broken virtually every agreement he's made with his adversaries. I guess were they to break it, Trump would send a few mean tweets Putin's way, but somehow I think Putin would get over that quite quickly.

39 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

If you still think Trump is a defacto Russian asset you're the cultist with a thick skull. Good grief

Oh yes, like the president of Portugal said it, not like the anti-trump social media says it. Hence, the defacto. He isn't taking direct orders, but his hand wringing and waffling and public desperation for a "deal" 100% benefits Putin as if he was. Ukraine and the allies have to calibrate accordingly with the mentality that he is a Russian asset.

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

And Vietnam?

Us in Vietnam, the Soviets in Afghanistan.

Just now, dawkins4prez said:

Oh yes, like the president of Portugal said it, not like the anti-trump social media says it. Hence, the defacto. He isn't taking direct orders, but his hand wringing and waffling and public desperation for a "deal" 100% benefits Putin as if he was. Ukraine and the allies have to calibrate accordingly with the mentality that he is a Russian asset.

Right, right.

Well let's throw Portugal in, then. When will they be sending their army in to support Ukraine and fight this great enemy

Just now, Gannan said:

Us in Vietnam, the Soviets in Afghanistan.

You're so full of ish

Just now, Mike31mt said:

You're so full of ish

I'm sorry you can't keep up with the conversation. Maybe spend some time reading about insurgencies and their effects and rejoin the big table later.

Just now, Gannan said:

I'm sorry you can't keep up with the conversation. Maybe spend some time reading about insurgencies and their effects and rejoin the big table later.

Lol yeah ok. Sorry you can't articulate whatever stupid point you're even trying to make.

Yeah this is just like Germany

Oh you mean WW2 or 3?

No idiot clearly I'm talking about the Franco Prussian war of 1870!

42 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

When did Russia try and occupy Vietnam?

Dear God, you are literally too stupid to even put into words.

11 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yeah I just disagree. I get it, you all would like to be permanent benefactors for the Russia-Ukraine war as Russia slowly advances and continues destroying Ukraine and killing all of its military aged men.

I don't see the world that way because I'm not a neocon.

You clearly don't get it. I would like for Russia to withdraw from Ukraine. If you think Russia will stop with Ukraine, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you....

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

You're so full of ish

I knew exactly what he was talking about. It's you, dude. You're the retarded inbred mutant from WV that has to have everything spoonfed to him.

Just now, Phillyterp85 said:

You clearly don't get it. I would like for Russia to withdraw from Ukraine. If you think Russia will stop with Ukraine, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you....

Nonsensical fatalism based on fear mongering and warmongering

37 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

And that'll be the end of WGB today.

Some of us have real jobs, sorry I couldn't respond within the 8 minutes that transpired between your previous post and this one.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I knew exactly what he was talking about. It's you, dude. You're the retarded inbred mutant from WV that has to have everything spoonfed to him.

Lol you're even more full of ish than Gannan

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Right, right.

Well let's throw Portugal in, then. When will they be sending their army in to support Ukraine and fight this great enemy

Sidetrack it all you want. Trump is a defacto Russian asset because Trump is not so secretly rooting for Russia in this conflict. He wants might is right to be successful, it gives him the excuse to do the equally immoral from Venezuela to Chicago.

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Lol you're even more full of ish than Gannan

I'm full of ish because I'm aware of history and used an example that torpedoed your entire argument with one post. Got it.

1 hour ago, Gannan said:

It's exactly like those two conflicts, imperialist super power tries to conquer and occupy a smaller nation whose entire identity revolves around independence and self determination.

Curious how this doesn't apply to US in Afghanistan as well since it was much more recent and exactly qualifies

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm full of ish because I'm aware of history and used an example that torpedoed your entire argument with one post. Got it.

No you're full of ish because you absolutely did not pick up on his random referencs--which I don't even believe- and are a moron

3 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Sidetrack it all you want. Trump is a defacto Russian asset because Trump is not so secretly rooting for Russia in this conflict. He wants might is right to be successful, it gives him the excuse to do the equally immoral from Venezuela to Chicago.

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

No you're full of ish because you absolutely did not pick up on his random referencs--which I don't even believe- and are a moron

Take the L on this, you're embarrassing yourself again.

Just now, Mike31mt said:

At some point even you have to judge Trump by the results.

17 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Nonsensical fatalism based on fear mongering and warmongering

Fear mongering and warmongering? What are you talking about? Putin has made it very clear that he wants to recreate the Soviet Union. He has invaded Ukraine. We aren’t talking about a "what if” scenario, we are talking about a currently happening scenario.

Also you didn’t answer my last question. Why did you run from the economy thread?

4 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Fear mongering and warmongering? What are you talking about? Putin has made it very clear that he wants to recreate the Soviet Union. He has invaded Ukraine. We aren’t talking about a "what if” scenario, we are talking about a currently happening scenario.

Also you didn’t answer my last question. Why did you run from the economy thread?

I didn't run from the economy thread, as you can see whenever I post I get bombarded with 100 different replies. At some point I have to move on to other things.

What would you like to know?

2 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

This is not true.

Who is more likely to allow US presence in that region -- a (albeit) smaller Ukraine, or a larger and more resource-rich Russia?

Unless we're talking about a hot war, then I reject this notion that we're abandoning anything. Clearly, that's not the case