February 28, 20223 yr 37 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: He's a moron. There are many of them. But he's gutless about it.
February 28, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: Biden's foreign policy disasters have really done a number on CVON's ishlibs. You hate to see it. Your entire posting history is that we should avoid war at all costs even at the risk of our own national security and lay down for Putin because he's no threat to us. You of all people should be supporting Biden's foreign policy. He's doing what you've been saying you want.
February 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Gannan said: I grew up in a world where the Russians could nuke us at any minute. It just doesn't scare me enough to surrender all of Europe to them. Yeah me too. I remember hiding under desks and going to the fall out shelter in elementary school. Ukraine isn't all of Europe. The Russian Military is total Joke. They don't have the will to fight, they don't support the cause, their logistics is 3rd world bad, their equipment is old from the Soviet days and their leaders are really bad tactically. After 5 days of battle I no longer fear the Red Menace except for their nuclear capability.
February 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Gannan said: Trump was trying to pull out even faster. He actually issued an executive order to remove all troops in his last day in office, it was just ignored. I was just illustrating a point about how completely divorced from reality Trumpbots are. Trump let the deep state and military bureaucracy stymie his efforts to withdraw from Afghanistan for four years. Biden said "listen Jack, we're getting out of Afghanistan. I don't care what you think will happen, we're gone." And he did it. What a ef'ing CHAD! (btw if Trump had executed an exit from Afghanistan in exactly the same manner the Trump butt-sniffers here would have been defending him exactly on these grounds.)
February 28, 20223 yr Gotta say, I didn't expect this thread to devolve into a breathless defense of the disaster that was the Afghanistan withdrawal, but I'm not surprised it did. Incredibly entertaining.
February 28, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: They live in a fantasy land where Trump was playing 4d chess, and would have double down on the war in Afghanistan until the Taliban was wiped out if the election hadn't been stolen from him. Of course this is the same group that is at the same time anti-war, but somehow Trump would have beaten the Taliban with mean tweets or something. Thats a red herring Asking for an organized and well-executed withdrawal of Afghanistan isnt asking too much Biden couldnt pull it off, though, so he surrendered to terrorists The fact that none of you can have an honest conversation about this is how we know youre afflicted with debilitating TDS
February 28, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: Gotta say, I didn't expect this thread to devolve into a breathless defense of the disaster that was the Afghanistan withdrawal, but I'm not surprised it did. Incredibly entertaining. @4for4EaglesNest got us off track. He always insists on making everything about Trump.
February 28, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Paul852 said: I'm just curious how he pops in and acts like Biden "gave Afghanistan to the Taliban". Coming in here insulting our president in his moment of greatness. True hater. God bless Biden! Because we all witnessed it on television Do you know what year that occurred?
February 28, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Thats a red herring Asking for an organized and well-executed withdrawal of Afghanistan isnt asking too much Biden couldnt pull it off, though, so he surrendered to terrorists The fact that none of you can have an honest conversation about this is how we know youre afflicted with debilitating TDS This narrative falls apart in light of the facts.
February 28, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: guessing you're getting confused with the other Mike again. you know, the one who's part of the crowd here who would be happy to see Putin take over Ukraine as long as it made Biden look bad. This is cute from one of the ardent Trump-Russia conspiracy theorists. How many disproven lies do you still believe about Trump and Russia?
February 28, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Gannan said: @4for4EaglesNest got us off track. He always insists on making everything about Trump.
February 28, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Kz! said: Gotta say, I didn't expect this thread to devolve into a breathless defense of the disaster that was the Afghanistan withdrawal, but I'm not surprised it did. Incredibly entertaining. Let's get it back on track. That Putin guy, really has some legitimate grievances, huh?
February 28, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: This is cute from one of the ardent Trump-Russia conspiracy theorists. How many disproven lies do you still believe about Trump and Russia? None. I do believe in the proven ones though. Of which there are many. I've never argued that there was evidence Trump himself actively coordinated with Russia to help with his campaign, but he certainly had to know it was happening and welcomed the help. There were also some members of his campaign staff that more directly coordinated with Russia, and they received jail time for it. Acting like it was a nothingburger is evidence of your self-delusion. I've maintained all along that Putin wasn't stupid enough to have Trump actually privy to whatever their plans are. Trump would have ended up bragging about how much the great leader Putin is doing to ensure Trump's win
February 28, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Trump let the deep state and military bureaucracy stymie his efforts to withdraw from Afghanistan for four years. Biden said "listen Jack, we're getting out of Afghanistan. I don't care what you think will happen, we're gone." And he did it. What a ef'ing CHAD! (btw if Trump had executed an exit from Afghanistan in exactly the same manner the Trump butt-sniffers here would have been defending him exactly on these grounds.) Notice how the TDSers are relegated to TDS Fan Fic to criticize Trump "If Trump was still in office Russia would still invade Ukraine..." "If Trump was still in office, he would have still surrendered an entire country to terrorists" Trump was in office and those things didn't happen. Any of you care to come back to reality?
February 28, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Notice how the TDSers are relegated to TDS Fan Fic to criticize Trump "If Trump was still in office Russia would still invade Ukraine..." "If Trump was still in office, he would have still surrendered an entire country to terrorists" Trump was in office and those things didn't happen. Any of you care to come back to reality? @4for4EaglesNest dude you are slipping, get on this already!
February 28, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: This narrative falls apart in light of the facts. So what happened? Was this when our democracy was dying in darkness I dont believe anything General White Male Rage says. Nothing.
February 28, 20223 yr The main Russian force has advanced slowly in the last 24 hours to within about 15 miles of Kyiv’s city center as they continue to face stiff Ukrainian opposition and their own logistical problems. Ukrainian forces have attacked Russian troops and combat vehicles with small arms and surface-to-air missiles, a senior Defense Department official told reporters on Monday. The official discussed the military operations on condition of anonymity. Ukrainians have also blunted the Russian advance by blowing up bridges, the official said. Since Sunday, the Russians have moved about three miles closer to the Ukrainian capital, the official said. They appear intent on encircling the city. Nearly 75% of the combat troops Russian President Vladimir Putin deployed for the war are inside Ukraine. Meanwhile, Russian vehicles have been running out of gas, the official said. It’s unclear if that represents a failure of Russian officials to plan or their troops' inability to execute it. Russia has also failed to control Ukraine’s airspace, with Ukrainian forces still able to fly warplanes and operate anti-aircraft missiles. The heaviest fighting is centered around Kharkiv, the official said. The Russians appear aimed at securing that city, Ukraine’s second largest after Kyiv, and connecting with a force near Mariupol in the south. That would sever eastern Ukraine from the rest of the country. Russian infantry GAZ Tigr vehicles destroyed as a result of fighting in Kharkiv, seen on Feb. 28, 2022.
February 28, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Let's get it back on track. That Putin guy, really has some legitimate grievances, huh? He's literally Hitler and I can't stop shaking.
February 28, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: None. I do believe in the proven ones though. Of which there are many. I've never argued that there was evidence Trump himself actively coordinated with Russia to help with his campaign, but he certainly had to know it was happening and welcomed the help. There were also some members of his campaign staff that more directly coordinated with Russia, and they received jail time for it. Acting like it was a nothingburger is evidence of your self-delusion. I've maintained all along that Putin wasn't stupid enough to have Trump actually privy to whatever their plans are. Trump would have ended up bragging about how much the great leader Putin is doing to ensure Trump's win It was absolutely nothing more than what has gone on in every single administration in my lifetime But it was a problem when Trump was in office
February 28, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: This is cute from one of the ardent Trump-Russia conspiracy theorists. How many disproven lies do you still believe about Trump and Russia? How many are there?
February 28, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Your indifference towards a nation that explicitly threatens to weaken our way of life is noted. I love how the right wing talking point now is that Russia is rallying NATO to undercut any credit Biden can take for it. Biden beat the drum on this since October with NATO allies. Obviously the invasion has ratcheted up the cooperation, but without laying the groundwork the last few months and convincing our allies how real the threat is, and coordinating response plans ahead of time, the support Ukraine is receiving would not have gone nearly as well. The Ukrainians deserve every accolade they have received and more for the way they've responded. But they're doing it with the coordinated support of the West. And Biden deserves fair credit for being instrumental in organizing that support. Quit with the BS. This is all theater. Putin made his recent intentions clear long ago. NATO thought it was a bluff. Or did they? Was NATO caught flat footed? Were the "smart" people incorrect about their assessment? Now suddenly Putin's "off" mentally? Maybe Trump picked at a scab no one wanted to acknowledge and they needed a response. Russia certainly hands them that opportunity. I give Biden no credit nor any more blame than NATO for the last minute response. Russia rallied NATO by force. Let me know when you get to **** that threatens our way of life happening within the US or even in this hemisphere. Until then? Meh. Make no mistake, we too are masters of propaganda.
February 28, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Boogyman said: @4for4EaglesNest dude you are slipping, get on this already! What's with you constantly trying to get attention from this dude?
February 28, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: So what happened? Was this when our democracy was dying in darkness I dont believe anything General White Male Rage says. Nothing. So you think its more likely that a decorated general is perjuring himself under oath
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