February 28, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Kz! said: "You get no attention!" Says the small man who responds to 90% of what I say on here. That math doesnt work out though, as you have about three times as many posts as he does.
February 28, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: but only because Ukraine is installing military operations in civilians centers!" Hate to say it, but I think I heard this before. Wasn’t right then or now.
February 28, 20223 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: Wow. Let’s all take a step back here. We are closer to a direct war with Russia than we ever were during the Cold War. Am I wrong? This is insanity.
February 28, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: poor kkkz 2 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: leave elmo alone. 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: That math doesnt work out though, as you have about three times as many posts as he does. "The guy with the most consistent reply guy fanbois gets no attention on here." -some 5'5 ****
February 28, 20223 yr things are definitely going to be getting more difficult for Ukraine. need to devise a way to get supplies to Kyiv.
February 28, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: the sanctions do two things: 1. it puts tremendous pressure on the decision makers in Russia who are sensitive to the trashing of their economy to make a change 2. demonstrates clearly what the economic costs of attempting such an invasion in the future are going to be if Putin actually thought the West would come together as it has and introduce sanctions as strong as it has (and as strong as Biden promised they would be while those like yourself chuckled at him), then Putin truly is incredibly stupid. if, after the Ukraine situation is worked out, Russia was to try and do this again, they would even stupider. in addition to the above, the sanctions are putting pressure on those who ramped up economic ties with Russia during the last decade to roll back their dependency. I know you badly want to be able to not credit Biden for this. it's more clear with every post. As badly as the withdrawal from Afghanistan was, the way Biden has handled this situation has been very good. Sanctions are a part of every war. And a trivial fact at best when your dealing with a tyrant.
February 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, SNOORDA said: Sanctions are a part of every war. And a trivial fact at best I know you'll believe it when you see it, and it's an overused term, but this time it's different: These sanctions are like nothing ever done before.
February 28, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: the sanctions do two things: 1. it puts tremendous pressure on the decision makers in Russia who are sensitive to the trashing of their economy to make a change 2. demonstrates clearly what the economic costs of attempting such an invasion in the future are going to be if Putin actually thought the West would come together as it has and introduce sanctions as strong as it has (and as strong as Biden promised they would be while those like yourself chuckled at him), then Putin truly is incredibly stupid. if, after the Ukraine situation is worked out, Russia was to try and do this again, they would even stupider. in addition to the above, the sanctions are putting pressure on those who ramped up economic ties with Russia during the last decade to roll back their dependency. I know you badly want to be able to not credit Biden for this. it's more clear with every post. As badly as the withdrawal from Afghanistan was, the way Biden has handled this situation has been very good. Change of stance in here since Bidens speech. A lot in here were saying what Biden was going to do wasn't enough and that he failed as a leader
February 28, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Thrive said: Wow. Let’s all take a step back here. We are closer to a direct war with Russia than we ever were during the Cold War. Am I wrong? This is insanity. All over a country 6,000 miles away entering an obsolete military pact. Or so it seems.
February 28, 20223 yr Just now, Mike030270 said: Change of stance in here since Bidens speech. A lot in here were saying what Biden was going to do wasn't enough and that he failed as a leader agreed...a lot of posters in here owe President Biden an apology.
February 28, 20223 yr Just now, Mike030270 said: Change of stance in here since Bidens speech. A lot in here were saying what Biden was going to do wasn't enough and that he failed as a leader Yup. The first layer of sanctions were lackluster, I think there was general consensus on that. But it was also clear the US, UK, and many in the EU wanted more out of the gate but were stymied by a handful of nations (notably Germany, Italy, Cyprus and Hungary). As the crisis deepened the arguments made by the US, UK and others began to ring true. Obviously Ukraine's stand was central here, and I'm not trying to overstate things, but if Biden is going to get beat up for "underwhelming" sanctions then he ought to get credit when he's part of what helped turn the tide. 2 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: All over a country 6,000 miles away entering an obsolete military pact. Or so it seems. an "obsolete military pact" that Putin was hellbent on preventing expansion of....
February 28, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Thrive said: Wow. Let’s all take a step back here. We are closer to a direct war with Russia than we ever were during the Cold War. Am I wrong? This is insanity. more detail about the expulsions: this isn't all Russian diplomats. it's specific ones known to have engaged in spying.
February 28, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I know you'll believe it when you see it, and it's an overused term, but this time it's different: These sanctions are like nothing ever done before. What would The Godfather do? We always knew putun was a pos. you have to figure with his life and career winding down that he is more than willing to let his people sacrifice I. Order to make Russia great again for his own legacy
February 28, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: agreed...a lot of posters in here owe President Biden an apology. @vikas83 hunt says you need to apologize
February 28, 20223 yr Just now, Mike030270 said: @vikas83 hunt says you need to apologize We've already covered the atrocity of putting ketchup on a hot dog. We don't need to revisit that.
February 28, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: All over a country 6,000 miles away entering an obsolete military pact. Or so it seems. If it’s obsolete then what’s the fing point of all of this? I thought you were strongly opposed to nato expansion, but why should you be if it’s obsolete?
February 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, SNOORDA said: What would The Godfather do? Putin is not The Godfather. He's maybe Bruno.
February 28, 20223 yr 23 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: the sanctions do two things: 1. it puts tremendous pressure on the decision makers in Russia who are sensitive to the trashing of their economy to make a change 2. demonstrates clearly what the economic costs of attempting such an invasion in the future are going to be Now we get to the heart of the matter. Regime change has been the goal of the West ever since Putin put a stop to the rape of his country. They hate this guy with a passion and this entire Ukraine situation was engineered to get to this point- sanctions so unprecedented and harsh that Russia undergoes a color revolution. We'll see how it pans out. The track record for sanctions leading to a change in governments is spotty, at best. It didn't work in Iran, for example. Where has it worked? As for the future cost to Russia, once you play this card, you lose the card. They can't sanction Russia in the same way again. Russia will be essentially separated from the Western financial system. What is the EU going to do next, cut themselves off of Russian exports? In the meantime, Russia get about 700mil from it's exports per day. As long as they have that cash coming in, their budgets will be able to weather the storm. Have you seen the stocks for China's CIPS today?
February 28, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Muz86 said: If it’s obsolete then what’s the fing point of all of this? I thought you were strongly opposed to nato expansion, but why should you be if it’s obsolete? It's being used in ways contrary to it's original purpose.
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