March 17, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: While I don't necessarily agree with this statement, it is one of the more cogent arguments I've read here. Everyone should at least attempt to negotiate from a position of strength. If you don't agree with that, I honestly feel kinda bad for you.
March 17, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Procus said: Much more capable of doing so than you. says the guy who quoted TJ and tried to bust on him for being a leftie war monger.
March 17, 20223 yr https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/safricas-ramaphosa-blames-nato-russias-war-ukraine-2022-03-17/ S.Africa's Ramaphosa blames NATO for Russia's war in Ukraine
March 17, 20223 yr Just now, Procus said: https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/safricas-ramaphosa-blames-nato-russias-war-ukraine-2022-03-17/ S.Africa's Ramaphosa blames NATO for Russia's war in Ukraine This opinion passes as a cogent argument for you?
March 17, 20223 yr 57 minutes ago, Boogyman said: If I were gonna sink a russian mega yacht, I'd come up with a Rube Goldberg type plan involving a homemade submarine, hand powered drill and balloons filled with air to breathe. Maybe I’ll just paint a giant Z on the side and let the rest take care of itself.
March 17, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, Toastrel said: So many armchair warriors oh so eager to drag the US into a shooting war with the Russians. No downside, right? Of course there is downside. To every option. Just a matter of calculates risk v benefit
March 17, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: This opinion passes as a cogent argument for you? That's the headline. If you read the actual article, you'll see that the South African president condemned the invasion and resulting violence. The headline refers to his statement that over expansion of NATO to the east created instability which helped precipitate this crisis.
March 17, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: says the guy who quoted TJ and tried to bust on him for being a leftie war monger. Thats me alright…
March 17, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said: Of course there is downside. To every option. Just a matter of calculates risk v benefit Risk - all out nuclear holocaust Reward - the war ends a few months sooner.
March 17, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Procus said: That's the headline. If you read the actual article, you'll see that the South African president condemned the invasion and resulting violence. The headline refers to his statement that over expansion of NATO to the east created instability which helped precipitate this crisis. hmmmm https://www.voanews.com/a/south-africa-s-neutral-stance-on-russia-risks-international-ties-analysts/6474077.html
March 17, 20223 yr Just now, barho said: Risk - all out nuclear holocaust Reward - the war ends a few months sooner. The reward is a lot more than that. It would likely be the difference in who wins and whether or not Putin is contained (not to mention the Ukranian lives saved in the process).
March 17, 20223 yr to be clear @ToastJenkinsyou were speaking about the ukraine conducting the counter attacks, not the U.S. ?
March 17, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: to be clear @ToastJenkinsyou were speaking about the ukraine conducting the counter attacks, not the U.S. ? I'm pretty sure TJ's been advocating for us to become actively involved.
March 17, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, barho said: Risk - all out nuclear holocaust Reward - the war ends a few months sooner. Risk: human extinction from nuclear annihilation Reward: Ukraine gets drag queen story hour a few months sooner
March 17, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: The reward is a lot more than that. It would likely be the difference in who wins and whether or not Putin is contained (not to mention the Ukranian lives saved in the process). still not worth it, lets be honest
March 17, 20223 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: I'm pretty sure TJ's been advocating for us to become actively involved. ok, thought so. just want to be sure @Procusis clear on what that horrible war loving liberal TJ is saying.
March 17, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I'm pretty sure TJ's been advocating for us to become actively involved. Well, not "us” from his perspective. He’s not going to fight Ivan himself, of course. That’ll be someone else getting their limbs blown apart.
March 17, 20223 yr Just now, barho said: still not worth it, lets be honest I'm not really sure I agree with that. It depends on how viable you see the risk. I think the chance Russia goes nuclear is next to zero.
March 17, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I'm not really sure I agree with that. It depends on how viable you see the risk. I think the chance Russia goes nuclear is next to zero. It is literally their doctrine to go nuclear. Not only is it not next to zero, it is probable.
March 17, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Kz! said: So you agree with Biden that its a bad idea. Great, glad to see you are happy with how he is handling this particular situation.
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