Why are the right wingers Putin apologists now?

49 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

Russia has limited resources? LOL! They have factories running around the clock churning out armaments. They literally have industrial production on a massive scale right now.

Contrast that with the U.S. manufacturing in a year what Russia sends down range in a few weeks. You system pigs are in for a rude awakening. 

Russians - Equipping their conscripts with mothballed T-62 tanks and getting pile driven back to their own borders like little ****es.

Ukrainians - Equipped with Javelins and 12 HIMARS and are immediately transformed into Super Chads that are yeeting and deleting Russians in every theater of battle. 

Yeah... I think I know which approach is working out best. 

1 hour ago, Abracadabra said:

"In the course of the events in Ukraine, a new extremely dangerous trend has emerged. We are talking about the use by the United States and its allies of civilian infrastructure components in space, including commercial ones, for military purposes," the diplomat said. "Such activities, in fact, represent indirect participation in armed conflicts, and quasi-civilian infrastructure can be a legitimate target for retaliation. As a result of the actions of the West, the sustainability of peaceful space activities, as well as numerous socio-economic processes on Earth, on which the well-being of people depends, are exposed to undue risks."

Vladimir Yermakov, Director of the Department for Non-Proliferation and Arms Control of the Russian Foreign Ministry

 

Man propagandists working overtime coming up with that bunch of BS to justify targeting civilian infrastructure.

15 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Why are the right wingers Putin apologists now?

Long answer? Political expedience combined with a temporarily aligned set of values... ie anti-Democracy, white nationalism, bigotry, and general sense of disgust for global order.

Short answer? Because Trump is a Putin apologist.

15 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Why are the right wingers Putin apologists now?

In your head. You can create as many as need and no one can tell you otherwise. 

1 hour ago, Abracadabra said:

The U.S.A. Inc. is a commercial corporation residing in America. In case you hadn't noticed, there's a great big blue pond between Britannia and America. The global scourge of colonialism makes it's way across the Atlantic.

Would you like me to describe how to tie your shoes next? 

 

Yes, how stupid of me, I forgot that the US was a corporation owned by the British and not actually a part of Great Britain.  It’s all so simple and rooted in historical fact, I don’t know how I keep forgetting. 

2 hours ago, Abracadabra said:

 They're not running out any time soon. 

 

They were buying back equipment that was outdated when it was first sold.

2 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Why are the right wingers Putin apologists now?

Because orange man loves  Putin.  Pretty simple.  Much like them.

EDIT - not you @lynched1 at least you are not a complete communist loving traitor 

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

Yes, how stupid of me, I forgot that the US was a corporation owned by the British and not actually a part of Great Britain.  It’s all so simple and rooted in historical fact, I don’t know how I keep forgetting. 

You seriously haven’t ignored this troll yet? Guy is a complete fool.  Laughing stock of CVON.

10 hours ago, TEW said:

You just co-signed a post that said removing nukes from Turkey was a face saving move for the USSR. It was not a face saving move at all — it was quid pro quo and the entire basis of the deal.

And yes, it was the closest we’ve ever come to nuclear war. AND THERE WERE NO SHOTS FIRED.

YOU ARE NOW AGITATING FOR DIRECT WAR WITH RUSSIA. THE ENTIRE LESSON OF THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS WAS TO AVOID DIRECT CONFRONTATIONS BETWEEN NUCLEAR POWERS AT ALL COSTS. EVERYTHING LEARNED FROM THAT CRISIS HAS BEEN LOST ON YOU.

I haven’t called you a chicken hawk. That’s Gannan and company. I actually respect that you put your blood where your mouth is. It’s rare these days.

That said, thank God you’re not in charge, because your view towards the possibility of a nuclear war is completely irresponsible.

It's very obvious that you lack interpersonal intelligence. 

2 hours ago, Bill said:

It's very obvious that you lack interpersonal intelligence. 

I’m sorry, but this blasé attitude towards the very real risk of a nuclear war if the US and Russia were to directly engage each other militarily is frankly astonishing. Again, I am very glad that Biden and his cabinet have no such delusions.

8 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

He is not wrong about the importance of avoiding direct fighting between US and Russian troops. 

No, he's just wrong about a hell of a lot of other stuff 

1 hour ago, TEW said:

I’m sorry, but this blasé attitude towards the very real risk of a nuclear war if the US and Russia were to directly engage each other militarily is frankly astonishing. Again, I am very glad that Biden and his cabinet have no such delusions.

Of the two of us, I'm the only one carrying an iodine tablet in his wallet.

Even so, there's essentially a non-zero risk of things going nuclear. That's about it.

You have a good education and good intelligence; this is one of those times when it's handy to have street smarts, which you lack.

Tbh right now you're the geopolitical equivalent of a liberal mom who's terrified of assault rifles. We always fear what we don't understand. You are a businessman, thus you understand business. You a neither a politician nor a warrior.

11 minutes ago, Bill said:

Of the two of us, I'm the only one carrying an iodine tablet in his wallet.

Even so, there's essentially a non-zero risk of things going nuclear. That's about it.

You have a good education and good intelligence; this is one of those times when it's handy to have street smarts, which you lack.

Tbh right now you're the geopolitical equivalent of a liberal mom who's terrified of assault rifles. We always fear what we don't understand. You are a businessman, thus you understand business. You a neither a politician nor a warrior.

Damn, it's hard to come back from that. 

19 minutes ago, Bill said:

Of the two of us, I'm the only one carrying an iodine tablet in his wallet.

Even so, there's essentially a non-zero risk of things going nuclear. That's about it.

You have a good education and good intelligence; this is one of those times when it's handy to have street smarts, which you lack.

Tbh right now you're the geopolitical equivalent of a liberal mom who's terrified of assault rifles. We always fear what we don't understand. You are a businessman, thus you understand business. You a neither a politician nor a warrior.

I’m smart enough to understand risk/reward. And our military leadership is too. As are our politicians and their advisors.

The non-zero risk of nuclear war infinitely outweighs the marginal increase in effectiveness of the Ukrainian defense were the US to get involved.

You don’t risk human civilization, no matter how small the risk is, over Ukraine. Especially when they’re winning without us getting involved. If this was a case where western civilization was at risk, then maybe you have to think about taking some chances. But it’s not. So you don’t.

Anyway....

 

https://www.reddit.com/gallery/xw5bji

Russian MoD releases photos of Colonel General Lapin commanding troops, this is after he was heavily criticized by Kadyrov and others. Notable in the pictures: CCCP patch, badly censored map which was geolocated within minutes, "avengers" colored pencils, Lapin's damaged vehicle and HQ

 RuAF are clowns waging war in the wrong century.

 

Just now, TEW said:

I’m smart enough to understand risk/reward. And our military leadership is too. As are our politicians and their advisors.

The non-zero risk of nuclear war infinitely outweighs the marginal increase in effectiveness of the Ukrainian defense were the US to get involved.

You don’t risk human civilization, no matter how small the risk is, over Ukraine. Especially when they’re winning without us getting involved. If this was a case where western civilization was at risk, then maybe you have to think about taking some chances. But it’s not. So you don’t.

No, you understand risk/reward from the what if it happens perspective, and not the will it happen perspective.  Replace "nuclear arms" with "assault rifles", and "end of the world" with "school shootings" and you sound like the President, Chairman, and CEO of Moms Demand Action.

Also for you to call additional US involvement a "marginal increase in effectiveness" shows how stunningly superficial your knowledge of war is.

Also, we are always at a non-zero risk for nuclear war.  The closest we actually came to nuclear war with the east? 1995.

Stop bending over.

1 hour ago, Bill said:

Of the two of us, I'm the only one carrying an iodine tablet in his wallet.

Even so, there's essentially a non-zero risk of things going nuclear. That's about it.

You have a good education and good intelligence; this is one of those times when it's handy to have street smarts, which you lack.

Tbh right now you're the geopolitical equivalent of a liberal mom who's terrified of assault rifles. We always fear what we don't understand. You are a businessman, thus you understand business. You a neither a politician nor a warrior.

38 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I dont not always agree with @TEW, but I will listen to what he has to say. He is very intelligent and well educated, and even if I disagree with a viewpoint of his, it will have depth to it. 

It's easy for someone to step out of their lane, be unwilling to listen to or consider the opinion of others, and become an idiot on a subject really, really quickly.

This applies to pretty much everyone on the EMB at one point or another. Right now it's TEW's turn in the fire. 

The issue, and I see this all over in IT, is when people who are successful in one discipline begin to believe it transfers readily to everything else. In this job market one can have a particular set of skills and intelligence - sometimes a quite narrow intelligence - in a particular field and find yourself to be very marketable. 

People in IT who often are tasked with problems that are solvable by algorithms, even complex ones, and are compensated at high rates and lauded. This leads to a particular hubris, and a belief that "it only" they had the reins of business everything could be done more efficiently and orderly. Office Space lampoons this pretty effectively.

It's sort of a Dunning-Kruger like effect but one that afflicts sometimes narrowly intelligent and capable people blended with not of "when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail".

People in business/economics tend to see everything in terms of whatever market theory they subscribe to that gave brought them some success. 

3 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

It's easy for someone to step out of their lane, be unwilling to listen to or consider the opinion of others, and become an idiot on a subject really, really quickly.

This applies to pretty much everyone on the EMB at one point or another. Right now it's TEW's turn in the fire. 

Yup. I've certainly stepped in it when I've gotten out of my lane.

I still think I'm right though.

We see this over and over from RuAF right before a town is overrun by the AFU and the rank and file get captured, killed, or flee (often being killed in the process).

I cannot believe it's standard practice for any military to have command up and leave behind troops like this. But for the RuAF it appears to be standard operating procedure.

 

6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Yup. I've certainly stepped in it when I've gotten out of my lane.

I still think I'm right though.

I will continue to educate vikas on oil and gas lending, convinced my anecdotal knowledge on the topic provides an unimpeachable position of expertise and rightness.