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2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

If Trump was still POTUS there is a 0% chance this is happening.  Zero. Percent

 

All you dumb MFers who told us about Trump and WW3 and voted for Biden to "return to normalcy" step to the front of the line and identify yourself as a ****

 

And oh no, Trump would have hurt NATO.   Oh no!  If that happened we might have countries invading others or something, could you imagine??

Trump was trying to strengthen NATO so that this exact thing didnt happen.  Morons.

If only someone could have seen that Biden is a foreign policy failure.....

Trump cut support from NATO, and he was impeached for refusing aid to Ukraine, so he was going to suddenly turn around and defend them?  Go home, you're drunk.

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4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

If Trump was still POTUS there is a 0% chance this is happening.  Zero. Percent

 

All you dumb MFers who told us about Trump and WW3 and voted for Biden to "return to normalcy" step to the front of the line and identify yourself as a ****

 

And oh no, Trump would have hurt NATO.   Oh no!  If that happened we might have countries invading others or something, could you imagine??

Trump was trying to strengthen NATO so that this exact thing didnt happen.  Morons.

If only someone could have seen that Biden is a foreign policy failure.....

Get him, @4for4EaglesNest, he brought up the irrelevant orange guy! You should be all over this one any minute now...

9 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

China has built up huge reserves of Foreign currency by way of the great and good of Western capitalism exporting all it's manufacturing to China, to deter China economically the Western world would have to torpedo their own economies, could the rest of the World beat Russia and China combined militarily?

Maybe but that's a hell of a front to range your forces over, and if the West ties itself up with China and Russia, you can be pretty sure there'll be some countries in the middle East that will take the chance to settle old scores with Israel.  Fighting offensively on two fronts is historically suicide, (in WW2 the Allies prioritised winning one then the other, Hitler tried to fight Russia and Europe simultaneously and lost)  fighting on three would be impossible so what do you prioritise?

Even if we were to go to war with China and Russia, I don't think we would invade either country. Certainly not China. Probably the best we can do is surround Taiwan with our Navy and fire on any Chinese ship or plane that crosses our blockade. 

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

If Trump was still POTUS there is a 0% chance this is happening.  Zero. Percent

 

 

:roll:

Just now, toolg said:

Trump cut support from NATO, and he was impeached for refusing aid to Ukraine, so he was going to suddenly turn around and defend them?  Go home, you're drunk.

Yes, in the real world, thats how things work.  Thats how you make changes happen

Please, Obama/Biden voters, log off and just read.  Just stop, youre all f'ing clueless

 

Obama:. Russia invasion of Ukraine

Trump:.  

Biden:. Russian invasion of Ukraine

Total coincidence!   

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

If Trump was still POTUS there is a 0% chance this is happening.  Zero. Percent

 

All you dumb MFers who told us about Trump and WW3 and voted for Biden to "return to normalcy" step to the front of the line and identify yourself as a ****

 

And oh no, Trump would have hurt NATO.   Oh no!  If that happened we might have countries invading others or something, could you imagine??

Trump was trying to strengthen NATO so that this exact thing didnt happen.  Morons.

If only someone could have seen that Biden is a foreign policy failure.....

TRUMP LOST!!! :roll:

:usa:

1 minute ago, Boogyman said:

Get him, @4for4EaglesNest, he brought up the irrelevant orange guy! You should be all over this one any minute now...

Why dont you try, little man?

Please Id love to break this down with you

I thought this thread was about Russia and Ukraine, but all I am seeing here is a bunch of mental gymnastics.

26 minutes ago, Vlad67 said:

It is not because Biden is weak...it is becase the West is weak...or rather too focused on it's comfortable way of life...especially Europe is completely hypocrite here...on one side we speak empty words how decisive our answer will be...then we announce sanctions which Russians are lying on the floor laughing when they hear it and then we are buying gas and oil from who? Russia...until this trade is  stopped completely Russians have free hands...sad but that's how it is

Just a word on the Europeans and buying oil and gas from Russia, the US knows for an absolute fact that Saudi Arabia has been involved in funding or planning almost every major Islamic terrorist incident that has hurt it's citizens for decades but still imports 10% of it's crude oil from Saudi, while kicking the crap out of Iraq and Afghanistan as proxies.

Yep and here we go, here come the retahd Biden voters who cried about Trump causing WW3

Whoops!  Wrong again, morons

7 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

If Trump was still POTUS there is a 0% chance this is happening.  Zero. Percent

 

All you dumb MFers who told us about Trump and WW3 and voted for Biden to "return to normalcy" step to the front of the line and identify yourself as a ****

 

And oh no, Trump would have hurt NATO.   Oh no!  If that happened we might have countries invading others or something, could you imagine??

Trump was trying to strengthen NATO so that this exact thing didnt happen.  Morons.

If only someone could have seen that Biden is a foreign policy failure.....

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13 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Wow you're such a POS.

It's the only pivot he's got after declaring non stop for weeks that it was all a hoax.  Acting like he's a troll now to feel less stupid.  We have a name for that here in the EMB, it's called the KZ Razzle Dazzle.

11 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I might be mixing you up with someone else but don't you have family in Poland? I'd be interested how they're reacting elsewhere in eastern Europe. 

Yea I do. They’re scared that they could be next after Ukraine falls. Hoping nato puts an end to this before it reaches Poland. 

trumpers:  trumpity trump, trump trump! 

 

those same trumpers: why does everyone keep bringing up trump?!? :furious:   

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Why dont you try, little man?

Please Id love to break this down with you

We are trying to stay on topic in this thread so we don't get scolded, fat boy. Get with the program.

9 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

If Trump was still POTUS there is a 0% chance this is happening.  Zero. Percent

 

All you dumb MFers who told us about Trump and WW3 and voted for Biden to "return to normalcy" step to the front of the line and identify yourself as a ****

 

And oh no, Trump would have hurt NATO.   Oh no!  If that happened we might have countries invading others or something, could you imagine??

Trump was trying to strengthen NATO so that this exact thing didnt happen.  Morons.

If only someone could have seen that Biden is a foreign policy failure.....

you're a little late on the stupid takes. keep up.

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Yep and here we go, here come the retahd Biden voters who cried about Trump causing WW3

Whoops!  Wrong again, morons

:roll:

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Yep and here we go, here come the retahd Biden voters who cried about Trump causing WW3

Whoops!  Wrong again, morons

This isn't WW3. 

Post more memes, Biden voter.

Cant imagine being so stupid as to be fooled by the media into voting for this moron

 

Hey did you hear his plea, we're all going to need to pitch in and make sacrifices for "freedom"....so how much are you willing to contribute, "Libertarian?"

Just now, Gannan said:

This isn't WW3. 

Some want WW3 just so they can blame Biden. Putin has nothing to do with it because he's a Genius. 

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

We are trying to stay on topic in this thread so we don't get scolded, fat boy. Get with the program.

Im on topic you nitwit

 

Line up, all of you.  Anyone who voted for Biden doesn't deserve an opinion on this matter

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

This isn't WW3. 

Lol

1 minute ago, Gannan said:

This isn't WW3. 

I hope this isn't the precursor. China/Russia versus the world should scare the hell out of everyone.

2 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Yea I do. They’re scared that they could be next after Ukraine falls. Hoping nato puts an end to this before it reaches Poland. 

Hope they stay safe. I can't imagine NATO would let it get that far but Putin is a legitimate madman so I get the concern. 

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

If you must get a real answer to this bat-ish insane theory, the primary reason is that Russia wasn't positioned to handle the sanctions that they knew would come until they solidified a partnership with China as a backstop. Value of exports from Russia -> China nearly doubled from 2014 to 2020, for two main reasons: sanctions from the West, and the US-China trade war. China's "New Silk Road" has increases economic cooperation between the nations for a little less than a decade, greasing the skids here. 

The economic ties between China and Russia are much stronger than they were in 2014. This was probably inevitable, but the trade war Trump engaged in certain hastened China's interest in finding other trade partners. 

Now in 2022 Putin felt confident enough that if he engaged in actions that would bring sanctions from the West, there would be a backstop in China to help alleviate the economic pain. 

That's the REAL answer, not that I expect you to accept it because it does not fit the narrative you need it to.

This is also why Putin REALLY wanted Trump; Trump did so many things that put Putin in a better position, whether it was agitating China making Russia a more appealing economic and geopolitical partner, attacking NATO, causing higher than normal levels of intransigence between Western nations, or just sowing division among the American people. He was a BIGLY gift to Russia. 

 

49 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Backing my earlier comments about "wHy DoEZ pUtiN iNVaDe wHeN dEMoCrAts aRE iN ThE wHItE hOusE HmMmMMMMm??!?!" that resident mouth breathers seem to think is some kind of gotcha, Putin and Xi met 20 days ago just before the Olympics. 

Kevin Rudd, president of the Asia Society and former Australian prime minister, called Beijing’s backing of Moscow over NATO expansion "highly significant.”

"It puts at risk China’s wider relationship with the Europeans,” Rudd said. "But Xi believes he is now powerful enough and has sufficient economic leverage with Europe to get away with it. It also signifies that China now sees itself as a global, not just a regional, security actor.”

The discussions mark the two leaders’ first in-person meeting since 2019 and come as China and Russia increasingly align their foreign policies bilaterally and in world bodies such as the United Nations, in opposition to the Western bloc and other major powers.

...

Putin and Xi accused NATO and the U.S.’s Indo-Pacific strategy of building closer military ties with other countries in Asia as destabilizing and threatening regional security.

"The parties oppose the further expansion of NATO, (and) call on the North Atlantic Alliance to abandon the ideological approaches of the Cold War,” the joint statement said.

...

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken in a call last week that Moscow’s security concerns need to be addressed, a statement that marked a notable policy shift for Beijing.

In Xi and China, Putin had the strong backstop he needed to take this action now. China and Russia have long been friendly, but the geopolitical coordination and economic support between the two countries had not been strong enough until recently to allow Putin to take this sort of move.

I know this doesn't feel as satisfying as "it's because Biden is weak!", but facts are unkind to Republican's lizard brain needs of late.

 

for the simpleton still arguing "tHiS WoOD nEVeR HaVE hAPenED UndER tRUmP!>!!!"

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