March 3, 20251 yr 13 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Right. That's why the end is likely far away. Even without taking a "side" here Zelensky wants a security agreement and Trump doesn't want to give one. Seems like a stalemate Zelensky thinks so. He'll be proven wrong sooner or later. I'd bet on sooner.
March 3, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Zelensky thinks so. He'll be proven wrong sooner or later. I'd bet on sooner. What are you even babbling about? Russia wants to topple the Ukrainian government and take over all of Ukraine. That’s either gonna happen or it’s not. But that’s what the endgame is for Russia.
March 3, 20251 yr 26 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Then he's not ready to sign. That's crystal clear. Yeah, I doubt Trump will ever be ready
March 3, 20251 yr 47 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: oh the irony Weren't you putting me on ignore as part of your hissy fit earlier? What happened to that lil fella? Or did you completely change your mind on that too like 3 years ago when you were calling Zelensky a hero? Didn't work so I went with it. And yeah, I'm sure when Romney said Russia in the debate you didn't laugh like Obama and now it's your purpose in life to cry Russia Russia Russia.
March 3, 20251 yr Trump and Vance are puppets of Russia. Why would they want to give Zelensky anything? Hint: they don’t
March 3, 20251 yr 30 minutes ago, vikas83 said: And it begins... Could Putin have wished for an American president more alligned to his interests?
March 3, 20251 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: What are you even babbling about? Russia wants to topple the Ukrainian government and take over all of Ukraine. That’s either gonna happen or it’s not. But that’s what endgame is for Russia. No that’s not the end game. Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are 100% in plan A. Moldova is a lock. Poland may be spared.
March 3, 20251 yr Just now, Diehardfan said: Didn't work so I went with it. And yeah, I'm sure when Romney said Russia in the debate you didn't laugh like Obama and now it's your purpose in life to cry Russia Russia Russia. Obama was wrong about Russia and Romney was right. Do you think if Romney had won in 2012 things would have turned out different? Maybe no Trump so that’s kind of interesting to think about.
March 3, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: No that’s not the end game. Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are 100% in plan A. Moldova is a lock. Poland may be spared. Yeah if somehow a ceasefire happens it’s going to happen with a relaxing of sanctions. I’d give it maybe two to four years and then I think it’ll be another round for Ukraine and at the same time a move on the Baltics. Creates a dilemma for Europe and I think Putin will be counting on no US support.
March 3, 20251 yr 12 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Yeah, I doubt Trump will ever be ready For a win that he can brag about publicly? You haven’t been paying attention.
March 3, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, The_Omega said: For a win that he can brag about publicly? You haven’t been paying attention. Or perhaps he’s most interested in getting rid of Zelensky.
March 3, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Obama was wrong about Russia and Romney was right. Do you think if Romney had won in 2012 things would have turned out different? Maybe no Trump so that’s kind of interesting to think about. Who would’ve thought that that election outcome would have such significant consequences on American democracy and the way we view autocratic dictatorships.
March 3, 20251 yr 19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Didn't work so I went with it. And yeah, I'm sure when Romney said Russia in the debate you didn't laugh like Obama and now it's your purpose in life to cry Russia Russia Russia. Lol you have no idea about my opinions on Obama vs Romney's foreign policy at the time. But sure let's go ask Mitt Romney what he wants to do about Ukraine if you want. I like that idea.
March 3, 20251 yr Are we really on the brink of the NATO alliance being terminated by this US administration?😳
March 3, 20251 yr 36 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Obama was wrong about Russia and Romney was right. Do you think if Romney had won in 2012 things would have turned out different? Maybe no Trump so that’s kind of interesting to think about. No idea, but I'm not sure any of us batted a thousand in real time the last 30 years.
March 3, 20251 yr 17 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: He's right. Z brings nothing and is dependent on everyone else. Nothing new behind the US determining the fate of other nations. If he were alive ask agent "Lucius" about that after WW2.
March 3, 20251 yr https://www.reuters.com/world/white-house-seeks-plan-possible-russia-sanctions-relief-sources-say-2025-03-03/
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