March 4, 20251 yr 31 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Well, he'll get a peace deal. What, a temporary ceasefire? How long? What guarantees it?
March 4, 20251 yr 14 minutes ago, The_Omega said: If he'd have just said he regretted the way some things were handled on Friday, things wouldn't have gone as far as they have. Too proud and stubborn. And if Putin still wants Ukraine and keeps attacking?
March 4, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Reading Zelensky's latest tweet from a few hours ago he does show an opening toward signing without a full security guarantee. He is not super clear there but there is an opening. It reads as if he expects a full security guarantee but perhaps not all in this first step. Amazing what shutting off the spigot line of military support will do
March 4, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: What, a temporary ceasefire? How long? What guarantees it? What Putin's word isn't good enough for you? Just kidding...
March 4, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said: So you want Russia to take over Ukraine? Of course that is only conclusion to jump to. I want them to kick the dictator with the Z name out who won't have election. I want them to concede they are going to lose land and no NATO membership or military security agreement will be coming and the reality that they don't get much of a say. They have no leverage. I want this stupid war to end because if we throw a trillion and go another 5 years nothing will change except more people die. Putin is an evil guy who wants out. Let him save face if that means it ends. Backing him into a corner and badmouthing him from the Oval gets us no place. Trump knows that. Z saying this will go on for a long time is BS and he needs to be pressured into reality. Trump is doing the right things.
March 4, 20251 yr 9 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Reading Zelensky's latest tweet from a few hours ago he does show an opening toward signing without a full security guarantee. He is not super clear there but there is an opening. It reads as if he expects a full security guarantee but perhaps not all in this first step. He's probably been promised he'll get security guarantees from the Europeans. Putin will never go for them anyway. I guess there's always a chance.
March 4, 20251 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: And if Putin still wants Ukraine and keeps attacking? Then we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
March 4, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: Amazing what shutting off the spigot line of military support will do Yeah, could be though it isn't over yet. Stay tuned...
March 4, 20251 yr Just now, Diehardfan said: Of course that is only conclusion to jump to. I want them to kick the dictator with the Z name out who won't have election. I want them to concede they are going to lose land and no NATO membership or military security agreement will be coming and the reality that they don't get much of a say. They have no leverage. I want this stupid war to end because if we throw a trillion and go another 5 years nothing will change except more people die. Putin is an evil guy who wants out. Let him save face if that means it ends. Backing him into a corner and badmouthing him from the Oval gets us no place. Trump knows that. Z saying this will go on for a long time is BS and he needs to be pressured into reality. Trump is doing the right things. right....you're worried about people in Ukraine and Russia dying.....that's funny.
March 4, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Of course that is only conclusion to jump to. I want them to kick the dictator with the Z name out who won't have election. I want them to concede they are going to lose land and no NATO membership or military security agreement will be coming and the reality that they don't get much of a say. They have no leverage. I want this stupid war to end because if we throw a trillion and go another 5 years nothing will change except more people die. Putin is an evil guy who wants out. Let him save face if that means it ends. Backing him into a corner and badmouthing him from the Oval gets us no place. Trump knows that. Z saying this will go on for a long time is BS and he needs to be pressured into reality. Trump is doing the right things. So if no deal is done then you're okay with Putin just killing them all and taking over? 1 minute ago, The_Omega said: Then we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Do you want Putin to take over Ukraine?
March 4, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, The_Omega said: He's probably been promised he'll get security guarantees from the Europeans. Putin will never go for them anyway. I guess there's always a chance. Could be. Nothing is done yet and that tweet isn't particularly clear. There is also a peace deal to be agreed to at some point and he can also hold the line for a security agreement at that point. He could also insist that the minerals deal is contingent on their being a peace deal. Lots more to come.
March 4, 20251 yr Just now, Mike030270 said: Do you want Putin to take over Ukraine? Do you want to be stupid your entire life?
March 4, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Do you want to be stupid your entire life? Just wanted exact clarification
March 4, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: So if no deal is done then you're okay with Putin just killing them all and taking over? Do you want Putin to take over Ukraine? Why talk about a hypothetical that won't happen
March 4, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Why talk about a hypothetical that won't happen There's a nonzero chance
March 4, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Do you want to be stupid your entire life? You are on team Putin now in any case. May as well get used to that as this new alignment is just getting started.
March 4, 20251 yr Just now, Mike030270 said: There's a nonzero chance There is a zero chance. Putin wants out as well. He even has NK troops and can't move. It will stay here for the foreseeable future, but that doesn't play into the BS Poland and Europe are next narrative to scare idiots.
March 4, 20251 yr Just now, DrPhilly said: You are on team Putin now in any case. May as well get used to that as this new alignment is just getting started. Evidently you’re on team stupid a-hole war monger now.
March 4, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Just wanted exact clarification Your simpleton question deserves no other response.
March 4, 20251 yr 3 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Evidently you’re on team stupid a-hole war monger now. Ok, come at me broski. btw - You should start learning Russian now as I believe it is a pretty tough language to learn.
March 4, 20251 yr Just now, DrPhilly said: Ok, come at me broski. btw - You should start learning Russian now as I believe it is a pretty tough language to learn. The guy has NK pushing his car and they still can't get it unstuck. Stop with the nonsense. There is no Russian advancement coming.
March 4, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Your simpleton question deserves no other response. You want Ukrainians killed too. Understood
March 4, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: Ok, come at me broski. btw - You should start learning Russian now as I believe it is a pretty tough language to learn. It’s cool. Your attempt to be decent was nice while it lasted. Back to just scrolling past your posts. Best of luck.
March 4, 20251 yr Just now, Diehardfan said: The guy has NK pushing his car and they still can't get it unstuck. Stop with the nonsense. There is no Russian advancement coming. @The_Omega is a business guy.
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