11 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Mason top 5 G , Gage very underrated . Stinne replaced Cappa during Super Bowl run , Ryan is better all around than Whitehead , Ryan will play S and slot CB , but I like Whitehead plenty 

They will draft a TE and RB and , Gronk is 100 % coming back , Fournette looking good too .

arr they significantly better ? Kind of hard to be ,?they were 13 win team , slightly better .

I don't see how Mason is a big upgrade on Marpet, and I don't see how you can make the argument that 2 in house guys replacing guys that left or 2 veterans probably returning constitutes an upgrade.  I like Gage but he's not moving the needle much compared to guys like Evans, Brown, and Godwin they had last year. Slight upgrade over Miller maybe. 

Plenty of free agency to go and the draft obviously, but I think my point stands. BEST case in the NFC right now teams (like the BUCS) have remained somewhat stable talent wise. Most of em have gotten worse. Don't see anyone who is better. 

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

AJ Green is a reasonable stop-gap. However, he's a veteran who doesn't have a ring. If I were him, I'd be prioritizing other teams closer to a championship.

We really have no need for stop-gap veteran players.  The Eagles should be using this time to take risks on 2nd chance guys who haven't made it with other teams or giving younger guys a shot.  I would have been happy if they said OK,  we have Jason Huntley.  Let's see what he can do with Boston Scott's reps.  Let's go with Deion Cain at WR to see if he can rediscover his college potential.  We know Fletcher Cox was a great Eagle but let's give Marvin Wilson more reps to see if he can develop.

The guys I'm mentioning aren't meant to be starters but can they develop in to solid role and depth players?  

The issue I have is we know exactly what 31 year old Fletcher Cox, Boston Scott and Greg Ward bring to the table.  Cox is only going to decline from now.  Already, he shows up every 4 games.  Ready for more of that?  Scott and Ward are not going to develop into anything more than they are.  There was zero reason to rush to brig them back.  I don't want any other veteran stop gap players on this team unless it's a quarterback who will be able to feed the ball to playmakers and actually run the intended offense.

A 34 year old AJ Green would be a pricey downgrade from Watkins.  Watkins would come in on 3 WR sets to predictably run deep routes, Green would clog up the offense on most downs when they have 2 WRs and would be an upgrade manning the slot for 3 WR sets.

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I don't see how Mason is a big upgrade on Marpet, and I don't see how you can make the argument that 2 in house guys replacing guys that left or 2 veterans probably returning constitutes an upgrade.  I like Gage but he's not moving the needle much compared to guys like Evans, Brown, and Godwin they had last year. Slight upgrade over Miller maybe. 

Plenty of free agency to go and the draft obviously, but I think my point stands. BEST case in the NFC right now teams (like the BUCS) have remained somewhat stable talent wise. Most of em have gotten worse. Don't see anyone who is better. 

Gage is number 3 WO , he is not expected to be Evans or Godwin . And a big upgrade over Miller , Miller is very limited with his routes . Good chance Miller doesn’t make the team , same with Tyler Johnson 

i believe Mason is ranked higer than Marpet , imo they are a wash

Stinne as already played in Cappa place , they won super bowl with Stinne at  RG , not Cappa .

 

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

Gage is number 3 WO , he is not expected to be Evans or Godwin . And a big upgrade over Miller , Miller is very limited with his routes . Good chance Miller doesn’t make the team , same with Tyler Johnson 

i believe Mason is ranked higer than Marpet , imo they are a wash

Stinne as already played in Cappa place , they won super bowl with Stinne at  RG , not Cappa .

Even if he's an upgrade over Miller, but last year you had Brown at WR3. At least until, the incident. Gage may be less crazy than Brown but he's not a better football player.

And the Eagles won the SB with Big V at LT, that doesn't make him an upgrade at the position.  Stinne may be a serviceable backup but there's a reason Cappa was the starter when healthy and landed a pretty lucrative contract in free agency.  

This mindset worries me.  If McLane is right, that makes me think the Eagles would rather force something and potentially overpay rather than try and fail.  

 

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Even if he's an upgrade over Miller, but last year you had Brown at WR3. At least until, the incident. Gage may be less crazy than Brown but he's not a better football player.

And the Eagles won the SB with Big V at LT, that doesn't make him an upgrade at the position.  Stinne may be a serviceable backup but there's a reason Cappa was the starter when healthy and landed a pretty lucrative contract in free agency.  

Brown started 4 games for Bucs last year , 3 the year before . Gage will be as productive if not more ,

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

A 34 year old AJ Green would be a pricey downgrade from Watkins.  Watkins would come in on 3 WR sets to predictably run deep routes, Green would clog up the offense on most downs when they have 2 WRs and would be an upgrade manning the slot for 3 WR sets.

There are a lot more vet WRs avail over AJ Green that they could plug in. Waiting is the best option since each day the price drops. No rush

Julio Jones, James Crowder, Ty Hilton, Sammy Watkins, Will Fuller, Jarvis Landry, Odell(no thank you), Desean Hamilton, Adam Humphries and the list goes on with lower profiles recs. 

While I'm at it.  Might as well consider the 2017 SB victory still valid since there are still a few guys on the roster who have that connection.

 

Just now, bpac55 said:

This mindset worries me.  If McLane is right, that makes me think the Eagles would rather force something and potentially overpay rather than try and fail.  

 

Yeah. Appeasing dumb people requires you to do dumb things. 

They shouldnt worry about that narrative. They did the right thing.

The only miss that hurts is not signing a safety. They should/could have overpaid for one of those guys. They better get Mathieu.

Anyone else they missed on, doesnt matter. 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

This mindset worries me.  If McLane is right, that makes me think the Eagles would rather force something and potentially overpay rather than try and fail.  

 

They already had the opportunity to overpay on a splash deal.

If they do overpay now on a second or third tier FA, the dollar amount becomes much less material.

22 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

He kinda of rigged the list to make it all Saints and LSU players even though he left out Odell who went to LSU. 

Where is Bobby Wagner? Julio? ZaDarius Smith? 

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

https://twitter.com/pfn365/status/1505505544907415552?s=21

Deleted. What did it say?

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

This mindset worries me.  If McLane is right, that makes me think the Eagles would rather force something and potentially overpay rather than try and fail.  

 

They shouldn't be paying attention to narratives.   That shows a lack of commitment to doing 'the right thing' and belief in their plan.  Which isn't surprising.   

Just stoopid if they overpay for garbage.  Not that they haven't done plenty in recent history.

Since deleted, but original tweet:

[Wilson] Sources: Eagles had remained interested in Deshaun Watson throughout the process, but Watson is friends with Jalen Hurts and wouldn’t have wanted to take away his starting job by supplanting him.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Deleted. What did it say?

Eagles are still monitoring the Watson situation.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah. Appeasing dumb people requires you to do dumb things. 

They shouldnt worry about that narrative. They did the right thing.

The only miss that hurts is not signing a safety. They should/could have overpaid for one of those guys. They better get Mathieu.

Anyone else they missed on, doesnt matter. 

Why?  He'll be 30 before the season starts and is likely on the downward trend.  He'll be overpriced and ineffective by the time this team will be ready to really compete.  What's the value in adding him?

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

Since deleted, but original tweet:

[Wilson] Sources: Eagles had remained interested in Deshaun Watson throughout the process, but Watson is friends with Jalen Hurts and wouldn’t have wanted to take away his starting job by supplanting him.

Again!!!  Hurts is preventing talent from coming to Philly!

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

Since deleted, but original tweet:

[Wilson] Sources: Eagles had remained interested in Deshaun Watson throughout the process, but Watson is friends with Jalen Hurts and wouldn’t have wanted to take away his starting job by supplanting him.

If true, which I doubt, Hurts screws us again. 

Really just an awful pick.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

They shouldn't be paying attention to narratives.   That shows a lack of commitment to doing 'the right thing' and belief in their plan.  Which isn't surprising.   

Just stoopid if they overpay for garbage.  Not that they haven't done plenty in recent history.

I think people are reading too much into it. I think it’s as simple as they would rather keep their business quiet and not have people know they missed on targets.

Thats exactly why they text-bombed their favorite media members about their in-season extensions being a big part of their FA plan. 

8 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They already had the opportunity to overpay on a splash deal.

If they do overpay now on a second or third tier FA, the dollar amount becomes much less material.

. You think grossly overpaying for much lesser talent is less material?   On the contrary.  I'd much rather overpay for elite talent.  Overpaying for mediocre talent is what got this team into the mess they are in right now.

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

They already had the opportunity to overpay on a splash deal.

If they do overpay now on a second or third tier FA, the dollar amount becomes much less material.

I was implying more towards overpaying with a trade.  Those 3 1st round picks are a great value and probably easy to throw towards a veteran player.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

A 34 year old AJ Green would be a pricey downgrade from Watkins.  Watkins would come in on 3 WR sets to predictably run deep routes, Green would clog up the offense on most downs when they have 2 WRs and would be an upgrade manning the slot for 3 WR sets.

 

Pricey?  He played on a one year $6M deal last year.  He will likely sign for somewhere close to that or maybe less this year.  With how much the top WRs are making this year that works out to a pretty decent deal for the Eagles for someone who would be a more than capable #2.

He'd come in and probably be more productive than Torrey Smith was for us.  

 

 

18 minutes ago, Swoop said:

If true, which I doubt, Hurts screws us again. 

Really just an awful pick.

Doesn’t pass the smell test.  In a Watson trade Hurts would likely have gone the other way by being included in the deal.  Never mind that Hurts wouldn’t be able to beat out Davis Mills anyway.