2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah. Appeasing dumb people requires you to do dumb things. 

They shouldnt worry about that narrative. They did the right thing.

The only miss that hurts is not signing a safety. They should/could have overpaid for one of those guys. They better get Mathieu.

Anyone else they missed on, doesnt matter. 

But the Honey Badger would be the overpay panic move the appease the fanbase. 

6 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Never trust anyone who says, "Trust me."

Especially not McLane.

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

But the Honey Badger would be the overpay panic move the appease the fanbase. 

Depends what you pay him and for how long.

22 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Didn’t say he was more effective. But he is younger, cheaper and knows Nick. AJ Green is gonna be 86 years old. 

That draft is atrocious. 

What’s wrong with it? 

13 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

But the Honey Badger would be the overpay panic move the appease the fanbase. 

Not necessarily. Could be a great move.  Don't expect a 5/100 connect. 

I'm hoping for around 3/30.

37 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Building around Hurts includes strengthening the defense.  Some argument that he already has done some of that. Signed one of the best sack artists available in free agency.  Last year,  he brought in my two favorite players, that sat because of Covid, in the secondary in Gowan and Vincent. Go watch 2019 film of each in college.  Vincent will see some FS snaps, I suspect.  Gowan could be an outside starting CB.  Maddox is backed up by Scott, whose biggest red flag is health and he also drafted McPhearson, who I think has the potential to be a better "B” CB than Nelson.  Anyone of those could fail too, but I liked each of them as prospects.  That is good return on third day picks.  Extended the right LB in Edwards, not Singleton.  Still massive holes in the D.   It is a three year rebuild but as much as I dislike Howie and the extension that Lurie gave him, I have to credit the moves made so far.  
 

 

Outside of Reddick, none of these moves actually moves the needle.

The DBs you mention are prospects.  Let them play... but then he brings back Harris at $2.5M.  Booo!   Thats a waste.  We know he sucks, no need to run that back.

McPhearson... time will tell, but I'd rather run with him than spend big money on an aging CB (no one in particular, but comparing to Harris but at CB).

If he brought back Singleton, that would have been professional malpractice.  Fireable on the spot.  

And he's bringing back Ward and Scott... both are fine, but too soon for my taste and if they were to have signed elsewhere... so be it.  No need to rush to bring these guys back so soon.

1 hour ago, Texas Eagle said:

Which part?

 

40 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

What’s wrong with it? 

Taking 2 S and a WR (and not even the larger X that they need) with the first three picks is a televised abortion and is possibly the least likely scenario that would ever happen (I guess LB instead of WR would be even less likely). Passing on a historic edge class until taking Gunter (who I do like as a 2ND edge guy in the draft) is another travesty. I have numerous TE in the 5th ahead of Krull. And Kyler will not remotely be there at 83. There are individual players I love like Winfrey and Muma, but as an overall package that’s a C+ draft at best. 

Would people rather Tyrann Mathieu or Patrick Peterson?

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Would people rather Tyrann Mathieu or Patrick Peterson?

Is this a real question

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Outside of Reddick, none of these moves actually moves the needle.

The DBs you mention are prospects.  Let them play... but then he brings back Harris at $2.5M.  Booo!   Thats a waste.  We know he sucks, no need to run that back.

McPhearson... time will tell, but I'd rather run with him than spend big money on an aging CB (no one in particular, but comparing to Harris but at CB).

If he brought back Singleton, that would have been professional malpractice.  Fireable on the spot.  

And he's bringing back Ward and Scott... both are fine, but too soon for my taste and if they were to have signed elsewhere... so be it.  No need to rush to bring these guys back so soon.

I hated the Harris move.  Hopefully an easy cuttable contract with no significant guarantees. But I liked the Vincent and Gowan acquisitions.   Still feel that Gowan was the better UCF CB in the draft.  A bit raw but the talent is there. Vincent is at worst a solid nickel CB but an intriguing prospect at FS.  Not a fan of highlight reels (but at FS, almost like watching TV game tape).  Here is a taste of Vincent at FS.  Think of him as a younger and heavier Honey Badger. (No coincidence that the Eagles list him as a DB, not a CB.) 

 

9 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Would people rather Tyrann Mathieu or Patrick Peterson?

I mean Mathieu can still play. Peterson not so much. Which is a shame cause he was so good at one point. 

11 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Would people rather Tyrann Mathieu or Patrick Peterson?

 

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I hated the Harris move.  Hopefully an easy cuttable contract with no significant guarantees. But I liked the Vincent and Gowan acquisitions.   Still feel that Gowan was the better UCF CB in the draft.  A bit raw but the talent is there. Vincent is at worst a solid nickel CB but an intriguing prospect at FS.  Not a fan of highlight reels (but at FS, almost like watching TV game tape).  Here is a taste of Vincent at FS.  Think of him as a younger and heavier Honey Badger. (No coincidence that the Eagles list him as a DB, not a CB.) 

 

I agree. I think it’s time to let the young bucks get their time. I’d like to see one outside CB in the draft, preferably Andrew Booth. CB2 is a comp between him, McPhearson, and Gowan. Vincent is a S and competes for a spot among the 5 S’s. Slay and Harris are your vets in the room (though I’d rather Harris not be here). Would be happy to see:

CB: Darius Slay, Andrew Booth, Avonte Maddox, Zech McPhearson, Tay Gowan, Josiah Scott

S: Marcus Epps, Rookie (Cine, Pitre, Brisker, Joseph, Cross, McKinley), Kary Vincent, Andre Chachere, Kvon Wallace

12 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I hated the Harris move.  Hopefully an easy cuttable contract with no significant guarantees. But I liked the Vincent and Gowan acquisitions.   Still feel that Gowan was the better UCF CB in the draft.  A bit raw but the talent is there. Vincent is at worst a solid nickel CB but an intriguing prospect at FS.  Not a fan of highlight reels (but at FS, almost like watching TV game tape).  Here is a taste of Vincent at FS.  Think of him as a younger and heavier Honey Badger. (No coincidence that the Eagles list him as a DB, not a CB.) 

We can be hopeful.  But, I am absolutely interested in young players getting PT over aging players that aren't good.  And that's what worries me about the Harris move.  Seems they aren't interested in developing the talent they have as much as they could be.

The Eagles’ 2019 comeback win against Washington is on NFLN if anyone is bored waiting for the next NCAA tournament game to start. 

15 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The Eagles’ 2019 comeback win against Washington is on NFLN if anyone is bored waiting for the next NCAA tournament game to start. 

Done with the tourney.  Top 4 seeds have an 18-3 record.  The 3 teams that lost I had in the final four.

 

 

In the post-free agency mock this guy has hamilton falling to us

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/nfl-mock-draft-2022-post-free-agency

1 hour ago, Outlaw said:

 

I agree. I think it’s time to let the young bucks get their time. I’d like to see one outside CB in the draft, preferably Andrew Booth. CB2 is a comp between him, McPhearson, and Gowan. Vincent is a S and competes for a spot among the 5 S’s. Slay and Harris are your vets in the room (though I’d rather Harris not be here). Would be happy to see:

CB: Darius Slay, Andrew Booth, Avonte Maddox, Zech McPhearson, Tay Gowan, Josiah Scott

S: Marcus Epps, Rookie (Cine, Pitre, Brisker, Joseph, Cross, McKinley), Kary Vincent, Andre Chachere, Kvon Wallace

Wallace needs to earn his spot this year in competition.  Reliability and availability have been issues for him.  Year three means learning is no longer an excuse.  Plus, I am not convinced he is an interchangeable S.  I think he is a SS that is too light for the position. 

9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Wallace needs to earn his spot this year in competition.  Reliability and availability have been issues for him.  Year three means learning is no longer an excuse.  Plus, I am not convinced he is an interchangeable S.  I think he is a SS that is too light for the position. 

I agree. He’s not a centerfielder. Think Vincent can beat him out if Harris stays. I just don’t see the need for an average stopgap. If you signed Mathieu to play leader to Epps, Vincent, Wallace, Rookie I get that move. But not Harris who did next to nothing last year. 

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

All players start to decline at a certain point.  It's biology.  He's about to be 30, that is normally a pretty good indicator of when the plateau starts to fall off.  And there are 'effective' safeties after age 30, but they generally become 'effective' in different ways past 30.  They often times move closer to the LOS.  We saw that with Dawk, we saw it with Jenkins.  Mathieu is about 5'9" and 175 lbs.  That's not a guy that you want to have close to the LOS.   So, is he going to be as effective as a centerfielder safety as he loses a step?  

Is he declining now?  Yes. (If you say no... ask yourself why the Chiefs chose to replace Mathieu with Justin Reid this very offseason)  Is it very noticeable?  Not so much yet.   Will it start to become more noticeable in 2022?  It very well might.  Might it become even more noticeable in 2023?  Probably.  How much will he have declined by the time 2024 rolls around?  And how high will his salary be at that time, and would that money in 2024 be better spent on a safety that comes out in free agency in 2023 or 2024 and is only 25 or 26 years old?   

 

Now is not the time to put big money into 30 year olds.  That's not what rebuilding teams do, or should do.  Shoot for a 26 year old, and pay top dollar?  Absolutely.  Shoot for a 30 year old and pay big money?  Definitely not.  No thanks.  

Exactly why we should have targeted Reid or even Whitehead... 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Done with the tourney.  Top 4 seeds have an 18-3 record.  The 3 teams that lost I had in the final four.

2 of my Final Four picks were knocked out the first round.  UConn and Kentucky.  Who saw that coming?!

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

Exactly why we should have targeted Reid or even Whitehead... 

I think they did target Reid.  But, if you have the choice between KC and Philadelphia... where are you going right now?

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

2 of my Final Four picks were knocked out the first round.  UConn and Kentucky.  Who saw that coming?!

I think they did target Reid.  But, if you have the choice between KC and Philadelphia... where are you going right now?

They shoulda tried to paid more. Same for Whitehead. 

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

2 of my Final Four picks were knocked out the first round.  UConn and Kentucky.  Who saw that coming?!

I think they did target Reid.  But, if you have the choice between KC and Philadelphia... where are you going right now?

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