Talk about mental gymnastics 

16 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Some prospects who nailed their pro days today .

Rodney Thomas ,S

Graham - Mobley ,LB

Darrel Baker  , CB

Kevin Austin WO

Stone Smartt , WR 

I like Austin in the 6th.

14 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Another older player who won't be cheap. Why 

Agreed. Pointless...jersey sale only signing.

Heading into the season at this point with where it stands at starting QB for teams in the NFC currently I'd rank Hurts as 8th best in the conference.  I expect him to make a substantial jump in his 3rd year.  This should be the season that really shows what he will be as a NFL player.  I think it's possible that he jumps as far up as 6th best in the conference this season.  

1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Stafford
4. Prescott
5. Murray
6. Cousins
7. Wentz
8. Hurts
9. Jimmy G
10. Mariota
11. Winston
12. Daniel Jones
13. Golf
14. Lock
15. Fields
16. Darnold

Just now, greendestiny27 said:

Another older player who won't be cheap. Why 

Say we have Slay and Gilmore as our 1/2.  We upgrade DT with Davis, grab a DE like Jermaine Johnson II, Safety like Brisker, and LB in Muma.

 

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Talk about mental gymnastics 

Just curious how would they be screwing him over?

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Talk about mental gymnastics 

He didn't capitalize 'hurts' .... so I suspect he's actually talking about Reagor

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Heading into the season at this point with where it stands at starting QB for teams in the NFC currently I'd rank Hurts as 8th best in the conference.  I expect him to make a substantial jump in his 3rd year.  This should be the season that really shows what he will be as a NFL player.  I think it's possible that he jumps as far up as 6th best in the conference this season.  

1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Stafford
4. Prescott
5. Murray
6. Cousins
7. Wentz
8. Hurts
9. Jimmy G
10. Mariota
11. Winston
12. Daniel Jones
13. Golf
14. Lock
15. Fields
16. Darnold

He’s 9th at best on this list. Likely 10th. If you add in the AFC he’s probably like 20th in the league at best.

Even if he takes a step forward, it will always be after he rolled to the right and ran. He hasn’t improved his decision making, ability to read defenses, and deep throw accuracy at all through college and NFL.

25 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Another older player who won't be cheap. Why 

Because we are going all in with Hurts.

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Talk about mental gymnastics 

9 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Say we have Slay and Gilmore as our 1/2.  We upgrade DT with Davis, grab a DE like Jermaine Johnson II, Safety like Brisker, and LB in Muma.

 

Just curious how would they be screwing him over?

Gilmore is pointless. Stop. Rookie/McPhearson will be most likely #2, with a chance at bringing back Nelson. Tying cap up in a second 31 (32 years old in September) year old CB on this roster is so dumb I can't even insult you well enough.

12 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

He’s 9th at best on this list. Likely 10th. If you add in the AFC he’s probably like 20th in the league at best.

Even if he takes a step forward, it will always be after he rolled to the right and ran. He hasn’t improved his decision making, ability to read defenses, and deep throw accuracy at all through college and NFL.

Just you wait, he’s gonna take a massive leap next year from where he is now to not being top 5 in a bad QB conference 

2 hours ago, RLC said:

The Browns get to choose the day of the press conference. They selected a day the owners are out of town.

20 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Heading into the season at this point with where it stands at starting QB for teams in the NFC currently I'd rank Hurts as 8th best in the conference.  I expect him to make a substantial jump in his 3rd year.  This should be the season that really shows what he will be as a NFL player.  I think it's possible that he jumps as far up as 6th best in the conference this season.  

1. Brady
2. Rodgers
3. Stafford
4. Prescott
5. Murray
6. Cousins
7. Wentz
8. Hurts
9. Jimmy G
10. Mariota
11. Winston
12. Daniel Jones
13. Golf
14. Lock
15. Fields
16. Darnold

I think Garoppolo is a lot better than hurts, and I’m not a hurts hater by any means. Other than that I mostly agree with your list 

5 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

He’s 9th at best on this list. Likely 10th. If you add in the AFC he’s probably like 20th in the league at best.

Even if he takes a step forward, it will always be after he rolled to the right and ran. He hasn’t improved his decision making, ability to read defenses, and deep throw accuracy at all through college and NFL.

 

Why were his turnovers down last year compared to his rookie year if he hasn't improved his decision making and ability to read defenses?  

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Why were his turnovers down last year compared to his rookie year if he hasn't improved his decision making and ability to read defenses?  

They turned into a run first offense and called plays that were designed to accommodate his limitations. His ability to read defenses arguably got worse, and his worst game ever was his most important — and the cherry on top is this:

 

7 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I think Garoppolo is a lot better than hurts, and I’m not a hurts hater by any means. Other than that I mostly agree with your list 

There's a better chance that Hurts will be #13 on that list after this season than top 5.

Yikes

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Why were his turnovers down last year compared to his rookie year if he hasn't improved his decision making and ability to read defenses?  

I think he did throw the ball away rather than trying to force a throw and that was him responding to coaching.  I also think he protected the ball better getting sacked.  I don't think that is the type of decision making that shows he is making progress making the right read in a timely manner.  His time to throw did not improve.  It was worst in the League while playing in an offense that had a lot of read option, screens and other short passes.  

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Why were his turnovers down last year compared to his rookie year if he hasn't improved his decision making and ability to read defenses?  

Because they went to a run heavy offense, and his 23.75 attempts per game in his last 8 games was last in the NFL.

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

There's a better chance that Hurts will be #13 on that list after this season than top 5.

There’s also a better chance Garropolo will be top 5 than Hurts remains top 8.

Put Jimmy on a team that isn’t run run run for the first time in his career and he may surprise some people

3 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Yikes

Dreamed about living in Cleveland ever since he was young .... 

 

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

His time to throw did not improve.  It was worst in the League while playing in an offense that had a lot of read option, screens and other short passes.  

 Is this stat a thing? Does it take into account a qb extending a play?

9 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Yikes

He was vetoing teams in cold climates that don't play in domes to saying Cleveland was where he wanted to be all along. That's rich.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Dreamed about living in Cleveland ever since he was young .... 

 

At least Jordan Matthews was honest about Buffalo. Nothing to do but make babies and leave after the season

3 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

They turned into a run first offense and called plays that were designed to accommodate his limitations. His ability to read defenses arguably got worse, and his worst game ever was his most important — and the cherry on top is this:

 

 

 

Any offense with a young inexperienced QB ins his first year starting and first year in an offense would be wise to lean on the running game and try to accommodate that young inexperienced QBs limitations.  It's called good coaching.  That's how you properly develop someone and bring them along.  He played bad in that Bucs game but so did mostly everyone else on the Eagles except for Kerrigan of all people.  Bucs were a great team that if not for Cooper Kupp breaking deep in the final minute of the game they probably would have repeated as champs.  

 

In the most important game of the regular season though he stepped on a busted ankle and played a productive and promising passing game.  

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

There’s also a better chance Garropolo will be top 5 than Hurts remains top 8.

Put Jimmy on a team that isn’t run run run for the first time in his career and he may surprise some people

 

Probably won't surprise people in the good way seeing as how often he throws absolute bonehead interceptions when he does throw.