10 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I just can't get by the age. Very little margin for error.

True.

There's a lot of "old" prospects in the the top 20 of this draft. I do find that scary. 

1 minute ago, Texas Eagle said:

Think he meant the fact that Wyatt will be 24 by the time he’s drafted

24 is in line with a lot of prospects. Jermaine is the same age. Non-issue if you ask me.

21 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Curious why the league didn’t really value White but I like the signing. Type of guy they should have been targeting and definitely better than just bringing Singleton back. 

Contract year performance.  Size (218 as a MIKE).  For example, Taylor is listed at 230 by PE.com, Stevens at 222.  

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

24 is in line with a lot of prospects. Jermaine is the same age. Non-issue if you ask me.

Yeah a lot are older this draft because due to the covid interruption

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

Jordan Davis IMO is not making it to 15 given his combine. I do think Wyatt works for us because he play any position on the DL.

 

Davis is a trade up target I'm hoping. I like Wyatt a lot too as a fall back option. Though I do wonder if they prefer Travis Jones due to size and the potential of Gannon wanting more of a nose tackle in there. 

One of my dream scenarios is getting Davis and drafting Logan Hall as an inside/outside d-lineman. The size on the line would be incredible. 

30 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

This video is going to be a treat. Im only 36 seconds in. Watch pickens there!

 

part 2

 

11 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

His arm has improved over the years of course, but that stat is not directly related to arm strength. That has as much to do with accuracy, scheme, and decision making as anything

An average or below average arm QB can still throw a football 50 yards. When, why, who his receivers are, and how accurate it is will determine how high up the chart on that stat he is

Stat is based on throws of 20 yards or more  , and that is it .

20 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

 

I don’t buy Wilson only missed on 6.5% of tackles.  The definition must not include being out of position to make the tackle he was supposed to make.  

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I don’t buy Wilson only missed on 6.5% of tackles.  The definition must not include being out of position to make the tackle he was supposed to make.  

And he would get run over or pushed out of the play, he seemed much to light and simply not strong enough. 

20 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

Gannon runs a 3-4

No he doesn’t.  But he doesn’t run a traditional 4/3 all the time either.   I think he really wants to be able to put up multiple fronts and backs.  He put out a lot of looks from a quasi 3/4, 4/3, 4i etc.  including some 3/3/5 and even some 3/2/6.  He even ran some 5/3 with the Elephant rushing and either Barnett or Sweat dropping in coverage.  I want to say that one play I recall from an all 22 review involved Milton Williams seeming to drop into the middle zone. I don’t think we can or should hamstring Gannon by saying he runs a _______.  Now Schwartz ran a lot of wide 9 (Gannon runs some too) but he varied too, albeit less than Gannon on the front.  

20 hours ago, ManuManu said:

If we’re looking at long corners, Martin Emerson should be of interest. He is 6-2 and has 33 1/2 arms. 

 

Beast is a fan.  Little slow with no burst,(make up speed.)  He’s a press guy and I am not convinced Gannon and Wilson want to play press.  Awful ball skills.  Rather roll with McPhearson.   

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Beast is a fan.  Little slow with no burst,(make up speed.)  He’s a press guy and I am not convinced Gannon and Wilson want to play press.  Awful ball skills.  Rather roll with McPhearson.   

I do like him  , along with 

McCreary cb

Jack jones cb 

Gordon cb

Durant cb

McCollum cb

Chase Lucas cb

 

Pitre , S

McKinley  , S

Cross  ,S

Percy Butler , S

Marquise Bell ,S

2 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

He may still become a great QB, but arm talent will have little to do with it.

Decision making, accuracy are the only two real deciding factors in how great a QB can be. Arm talent is very much secondary

The guys with elite accuracy usually have the top tier arms, too. They go together.

3 hours ago, austinfan said:

Smith can get better, as a rookie you could seem him struggle with the more physical nature of NFL defenses. As the season progressed, he got better at avoiding contact and setting up DBs. Watkins has more upside simply because he was less polished coming out of college. Don't know if they can teach Hightower to track and catch balls - he can routinely separate but not much good getting open if you can't catch.

he struggled cause hurts in not any good

24 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

The guys with elite accuracy usually have the top tier arms, too. They go together.

It can happen, but it often doesn’t. Drew Brees did not have a particularly special arm coming out of college, most certainly not top tier. Neither did Alex Smith. Matt Ryan as well fell under "good arm at best” category, not higher. Brady doesn’t even get that mention in some of his reports. 
 

Beyond Brees, up until recently Chad Pennington was the other most accurate QB in NFL history. That dude had a noodle arm. 
 

Throwing deep a lot is not indicative of arm strength. Just looking at a QB’s stat sheet won’t tell you anything in that department. I wouldn’t say the most accurate QB’s "usually” had top tier arms, no.

In fact, the opposite may be true. QBs like Flacco, like Testaverde who had generational arm talents may end up forcing throws that other QBs wouldn’t even try that affect their accuracy. Matt Stafford took awhile to realize this, you can see his accuracy really waver until the post-Megatron era where he got it under control. I think that’s happening to Josh Allen as well, he did not have a great year in that department, 2020 is starting to look like an outlier for him.

Guys like Rogers and Mahomes who have both are a rare breed

Brees is the rare example of someone who is deadly accurate but doesn't have great arm strength. Pennington? Maybe he's accurate throwing 5 yards down the field, but he isn't close to the most accurate QB in NFL history. If he was, he wouldn't have been an incredibly average player. Ryan and Smith are accurate, but nothing to write home about. It's one thing to be accurate throwing 5-10 yards, it's another to be accurate throwing 25 yards.

The most skilled throwers are good because of their mechanics. When you have elite mechanics, you're going to have top tier arm strength and accuracy. Of course, there are examples of guys with big arms who are inaccurate. They' haven't tightened up their mechanics. But to be deadly accurate down the field, you're likely talking about guys who also have big arms.

 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Of course.  1 year deal. 

Great insight.  F Nova. 

yeah, great insight

If Willis goes #2 and Pickett goes #6, you just know some team will plunge for Corral in the top 10.

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

If Willis goes #2 and Pickett goes #6, you just know some team will plunge for Corral.

Start the run and push everyone else down to the Eagles.

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Of course.  1 year deal. 

Great insight.  F Nova. 

Let’s go Heels!  My head hurts

22 hours ago, ManuManu said:

There it is... "Get 1% better today."

4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

The 2022 Eagles... Exactly the same as the 2021 Eagles but for the most part older.

and more expensive.  Cox costs more.  Barnett costs more.  Harris costs more.

2 hours ago, justrelax said:

Makes me all the more certain Howie wants to draft Davis. The 4i is built to keep the LBs clean.

 

2 hours ago, RLC said:

Jordan Davis IMO is not making it to 15 given his combine. I do think Wyatt works for us because he play any position on the DL.

 

 

1 hour ago, greendestiny27 said:

Davis is a trade up target I'm hoping. I like Wyatt a lot too as a fall back option. Though I do wonder if they prefer Travis Jones due to size and the potential of Gannon wanting more of a nose tackle in there. 

One of my dream scenarios is getting Davis and drafting Logan Hall as an inside/outside d-lineman. The size on the line would be incredible. 

DT is one of the positions I've been hoping that we'll draft early and that I'd be happy with 1 of Davis/Wyatt/Winfrey/Jones.  Though, I see Davis and Jones more as the DT that plays the 0 (over C) in the 4i-0-4i tech while Wyatt and Winfrey are more like Milton Williams where they could play either the 0 (though probably not as effective as Davis/Jones) or the 4i. 

Question is what type of players do they want to draft to fit the scheme?  Will they draft players like Johnson/Mafe (in the 250-265 range) to play DE or players like Wyatt/Winfrey (right around 300) to play DE and who can also play 0?  It wouldn't surprise me to see them draft Davis/Jones and also draft Wyatt/Winfrey instead of Johnson/Mafe.  I'll be happy as long as they draft 1 player from 2 of those groups. 

 

4 hours ago, Original Sin said:

Protect him and add a cpl weapons and he will be a real good QB , imo 

you can’t teach his arm talent 

 

If I'm the NYJ I'm going all O early to help protect my young high draft pick QB and to give him weapons.  Don't know who they signed in FA, but they can draft D later since there's so much depth.  Yeah, you still need a complete team on both sides of the ball, but your #1 priority should be to keep your young QB from getting shell shocked early in his career.  So many QBs have been ruined that way.

 

Anyone know where we stand as far as cap space