4 minutes ago, RLC said:

If Wilson/Olave/London all go early, some team is going to trade up with us for Williams.

DT is not a surprise. Wyatt or Davis are going to be Eagles.

I think we go Davis or Jones

Just now, austinfan said:

They cost almost nothing, and had no impact on decisions this season. And they did help (well Nelson did) get them to the playoffs.

Talk about much ado about nothing.

With the exception of Nelson, they offered almost nothing.  ANd yet, here we are with nearly $7M in dead money for guys signed to a one year deal.  I wonder if that $7M could have been the difference in signing Marcus Williams.  🤔

 

Funny thing about throwing away nickels and dimes... when you do it often enough, it adds up to actual dollars.  You could play the lottery every day and waste $1-$5 per day... or you could put that money into a savings account and after 1 year of not being foolish with your money, have an extra $350-$1800 in the bank.

Much ado about nothing?  Nah... it's definitely something.

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

They cost almost nothing, and had no impact on decisions this season. And they did help (well Nelson did) get them to the playoffs.

Talk about much ado about nothing.

Wilson cost something like a guaranteed $3.5M. Imagine if we saved that money to front load a contract for a FA who can have actually helped. Same with Flacco. 

Those two wasted enough money that it potentially cost us a good player in FA this year. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

With the exception of Nelson, they offered almost nothing.  ANd yet, here we are with nearly $7M in dead money for guys signed to a one year deal.  I wonder if that $7M could have been the difference in signing Marcus Williams.  🤔

 

Funny thing about throwing away nickels and dimes... when you do it often enough, it adds up to actual dollars.  You could play the lottery every day and waste $1-$5 per day... or you could put that money into a savings account and after 1 year of not being foolish with your money, have an extra $350-$1800 in the bank.

Much ado about nothing?  Nah... it's definitely something.

Beat me to it. 

11 hours ago, olsilverhair said:

dumbest rule ever, forget best man for the job

Right. Because in the history of the USA, every white guy who has ever been hired has 100% been the best man for the job. There is so much evidence that people are more likely to just hire other people who look like them or come from the same background as them, that forcing people to interview candidates that they might not have thought of is actually doing them a favor.

6 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

I think we go Davis or Jones

Travis Jones in a trade back is my ideal scenario. Fits a need and would be a better value over Wyatt at 16.

2 hours ago, RLC said:

Reminder

Having 0% with of dead cap in any given year is bad. It means you didn't take enough risks, which means you're not getting value on the roster.
Having more than 10% of dead cap in any given year is also bad. It means you either misevaluated or took too many risks.

So having dead cap by design is good. For 2022, roughly 17% of our cap is dead cap. That's WAY too high. See the Jeffrey/Cox/Brooks extensions. 

That would mean you knew the risk you took wasn't going to pan out. You still don't want to have it by "design". But I agree that you have to take a certain amount of risk.

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Teams make mistakes, Eagles overreached after the SB, Howie and Lurie have admitted that, and that they were too attached to the players who won them a championship.

Jeffrey was a big mistake, Brooks is more complicated, Allpro guards often play at a high level until 35, Peters came back from an achilles and played at a high level four more years.

Lane was extended, now that he's healthy, he's going from overpaid to underpaid as salaries rise (he's still an elite RT).

Signings like Jerrigan and Malik were just bad luck.  Good players in their peak when signed, like Hargrave, but different outcome.

Wentz was one of those things, even Reich didn't realize how far off the rails he'd gone. Howie came out smelling like a rose, but they had to eat the dead money for one season.

 

The dead money is being cleared out, the top young players have been extended, they have a huge draft haul coming, and the cap is rising $20M a year through the rest of the decade.

The dead money will have no impact on this team going forward, unless you're itching to grossly overpay some free agents.

 

I'd like to see the list of all the All-Pro guards that play at a high level until 35.  Please support this assertion.  One outlier is not 'often'.  

Malik wasn't bad luck.  He was released from his previous team for a reason, he wasn't a guy who came available because his contract ran out, but because it was terminated.

 

Teams make mistakes.  No doubt.  This team has made more than their fair share including but not limited to: trading for aging players and then giving them exorbitant contracts, failing to draft well forcing more trades for players that are no longer here, overpaying for past performance.  

 

And you say that they learned from their previous errors?   Then tell me why Fletcher Cox is back again this year at $14M.  That's overpaying for a player that is past his peak.  That's the 12th highest per year salary for a DT in the NFL... even higher than the guy playing next to him at a higher level (Hargrave is only getting $13M per year).   What exactly have they learned?   Bring Cox back, but bring him back at a salary commiserate with his play.  He's much closer to the 30th best DT in the league now than the top 10.  Half that amount likely would have been more appropriate.  Or, crazy thought... let him go chase a ring elsewhere and save all that money while letting your younger players develop.  Howie talked about not having players 'blocking' their draft picks.  Cox will be doing just that.   Hargrave is the top DT now, not Cox. 

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Im not much for the uniform discussion and certainly haven’t been one to pound the table for Kelly green, like most the past 20 years.  But this looks cool.  
 

 

I dig it!

42 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

I think we go Davis or Jones

That's what I'm thinking...

I'll be the first to admit it if I'm wrong about Drake London. But man the alarms are going off big time. PAC 12 player who doesn't separate? Way too much risk considering where he'll be drafted.

1 minute ago, shlo said:

I dig it!

This all black theme is terrible, it's not even a color that's really utilized in our color scheme. Should've been gray or silver. Doubling down on black with the  helmets is typical of this regime. Makes no sense 

53 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

That was from years ago, Lurie could've increased his involvement since then which seems like he has. 

FWIW

If Zech McPhearson was in this draft he would be 

9th overall in 3 Cone 6.88
2nd overall in shuttle 4.0
12th overall in the broad jump 130 inches
Tied for 4th overall with 40.5 inch vertical

 

 

Bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see how this pays off.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Drove back from TN yesterday and was able to hear most of the Lurie Press Conference.  I don't know how anyone can defend that guy.  Sure he WAS the best owner in franchise history and we got our first SB with him at the helm.  But he has lost his way.  I have been saying it for years and how anyone can come away from that Pc and not think the same thing is beyond me.  

 

Few Things:

- His legal/PC way of answering questions comes off disingenuous and reeks of every corp exec in every walk of life.  Do I want the guy to be a scumbag like Snyder, Jones or Irsay?  No.  He seems like a nice guy.  He says a lot to answer any simple question because he's searching for the words to mask the fact that he's lying or bsing.  

- Speaking of lying....Holy Hell.  Less involved than before?  Ok Jeff.  Tell us a new one.  I am to believe that when he had detail about why they chose JJaw over Paris Campbell? He shared a specific injury concern about a player that we didn't draft in the 2nd round 3 years ago.  But he's not over involved?

- Like many in here, I thought it was hilarious how he kind of took credit for JM, Lane and recognizing R Wilson would be a good pick.  But what I found was even more humorous was his wording...how he "rooted" for those to be picks.  Like he would get over-ruled by anyone in the room.  Talk about a passive aggressive way of patting yourself on the back.  

- The most corporate ceo thing to do was to start the PC with the kelly green uniform announcement.  Because when the sharks are circling or the natives are restless, the exact thing a corporate shill would do is distract the crowd with irrelevant good news.  

 

A few years ago he waxed on and on about wind turbines......then he used an opening season press conference to talk, not about the upcoming season and competing, but BLM and Covid....The whole press conference!!!  This guy is a businessman and a liar.  He is positioning his son to take over, which is his right....no issue with that.  But on his way out he is playing fantasy football.  And we're the dummies to stand for it.  

What are we going to raise money to buy the team? 

Lurie, like probably most billionaires, has no sense of how he comes across.  I think he's probably sincere in the sense that he believes all of the good things he says about himself and the franchise.  He does care about winning and that's the best thing we have going for us.  The problem is that he thinks they have won more than they have.  He always thinks they're going in the right direction until it's clear they're not.  He's gifted with 20/20 hindsight but needs blind luck to succeed. 

10 hours ago, austinfan said:

So what. We know there's a SB hangover.  And most of that dead money is gone after 2023.

Plus some of it is balanced by money that will be moved forward.

There's almost no one that has to be signed next year to an extension, last year's draft isn't even eligible until spring 2024, this year's draft 2025 and the 1st rd picks are five year deals so they might not get extended until 2026. So by the time they need the cap room, it'll be available.

About the only thing dead money prevented was gross overpayments to "name" FAs like the Dream Team offseason. Howie got one, he might have got another if the price was right, but there just weren't many values out there - the WR contracts were crazy. One reason he resigned Cox was the money going to DTs who were less talented. Better to draft and develop a DT behind Cox than overpay for mediocrity.

Eagles have 65 million in 2024 cap room with 18 players under contract.  This problem is not going away.

49 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'd like to see the list of all the All-Pro guards that play at a high level until 35.  Please support this assertion.  One outlier is not 'often'.  

Malik wasn't bad luck.  He was released from his previous team for a reason, he wasn't a guy who came available because his contract ran out, but because it was terminated.

 

Teams make mistakes.  No doubt.  This team has made more than their fair share including but not limited to: trading for aging players and then giving them exorbitant contracts, failing to draft well forcing more trades for players that are no longer here, overpaying for past performance.  

 

And you say that they learned from their previous errors?   Then tell me why Fletcher Cox is back again this year at $14M.  That's overpaying for a player that is past his peak.  That's the 12th highest per year salary for a DT in the NFL... even higher than the guy playing next to him at a higher level (Hargrave is only getting $13M per year).   What exactly have they learned?   Bring Cox back, but bring him back at a salary commiserate with his play.  He's much closer to the 30th best DT in the league now than the top 10.  Half that amount likely would have been more appropriate.  Or, crazy thought... let him go chase a ring elsewhere and save all that money while letting your younger players develop.  Howie talked about not having players 'blocking' their draft picks.  Cox will be doing just that.   Hargrave is the top DT now, not Cox. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see how this pays off.

I guess he blew all of his injury settlement money from Tampa. 

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see how this pays off.

yeah, that'll teach us

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Eagles have 65 million in 2024 cap room with 18 players under contract.  This problem is not going away.

Well, the cap is going up and they will have probably at least 10 -15 rookies and 2nd year players under contract by then.  What it means is that if Hurts doesn't turn into an elite QB, they have to hope they can get one in the 2023 draft. They won't have cap space to potentially acquire a QB via trade. 

London would be my top WO , separation stuff , is over blown  , his size and length alone create separation , he is still young and filling out   , heck of a athlete though , his hoops background is evident .

I see Mike Evans with him , big upside 

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

London would be my top WO , separation stuff , is over blown  , his size and length alone create separation , he is still young and filling out   , heck of a athlete though , his hoops background is evident .

I see Mike Evans with him , big upside 

Size and length doesn’t guarantee separation as we sadly know too well. Also he’s seems slow.

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Well, the cap is going up and they will have probably at least 10 -15 rookies and 2nd year players under contract by then.  What it means is that if Hurts doesn't turn into an elite QB, they have to hope they can get one in the 2023 draft. They won't have cap space to potentially acquire a QB via trade. 

Not trying to bust your balls, but I hate when people use this statement.  The projected 65 million in 2024 cap room with 18 players under contract is based on the projected 256 million cap for 2024.  The number will come in somewhere close to that, but more than likely not any higher than that.

All of these projections are based on what the cap is projected to be, and this year came in exactly what it was projected.

42 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Im not much for the uniform discussion and certainly haven’t been one to pound the table for Kelly green, like most the past 20 years.  But this looks cool.  
 

 

That makes MUCH more sense than the black helmet.  The current helmet can look black anyway.  One glance at the running back below and it looks like he has a black helmet on.  White would have really changed the white uniforms.  

Just now, bpac55 said:

That makes MUCH more sense than the black helmet.  The current helmet can look black anyway.  One glance at the running back below and it looks like he has a black helmet on.  White would have really changed the white uniforms.  

Yup, this front office just sucks in so many ways