32 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Jimmy G playoff record: 5-1

Jimmy G playoff stats: 2 TDs, 5 Ints, 121 yds per game 

Thats wild. 

And who out in the world said you cant win with a great run first offense and a great defense?

Just if we had the great defensive mind in place. 

Well starts with Step 1- replace Gannon with Vic Fangio or Brian Flores.  

Step 2- Building the D through the draft to fit the scheme our new DC sets in place. 

2 hours ago, jsb235 said:

So we can lose to teams with a better roster?

You are literally trying to make a point using facts that directly contradict the point you are trying to make.

The 49ers game is the best evidence we have that a team with an average qb can do well as long as you build around them. And if the 49ers had stayed at 12 and drafted Parsons, maybe they win a Super Bowl this year.

Meanwhile, you want us to get a qb who is going to be worse than Rodgers, so we can put him on a roster that is worse than Green Bay's, and somehow that's going to win us a Super Bowl?

The Titans game is proof the average QB can lose you the important games. Tannehill lost Tenn that game. You can also see Jimmy G did not do the 49ers any help either. It was all Sp teams and defense. Without that Sp teams TD the 49er lose that game. Rodgers was not the reason the Packers lost, maybe the Packers should use first rounders on players that can help the team other then drafting a backup QB. 

You need all 3 phases to be on point and yes that includes having that QB who can win with the offense. Which is why you will see teams like the Chiefs, Bucs and Bills going to bowl over and over again until the QB is out of the picture. 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

We are still going to have to trade a first round pick for that average QB, assuming Jimmy G or Carr are available.  I’m not seeing any average or near average QB’s on this roster.

Its why you draft one

After watching yesterday's games, easy to understand why the Eagles prioritize OL/DL. It's just so hard to win in the playoffs without winning the LOS, especially when you have bad weather affecting the passing game + refs less likely to call pass interference/holding.

10 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Its why you draft one

Bingo. 

Why trade a first rounder for a QB like Carr, Jimmy G that you know will not get it done? 

Take the risk in drafting a QB and you just might hit lighting in a bottle. Most people were shocked when the Chiefs moved up that far for Mahomes. Turned out pretty good I would say. 

My theory is and always will be you draft a QB every year in the 3rd to 6th round range even when you have a good/great QB. When you have a large need at QB take the shot on the earlier round 1st or 2nd round QB. Once in place go back to the 3rd to 6th round method. Always keep the cycle going and looking for the next great QB. If your lucky you wont have to always pay the big contract for a avg to good QB unless you get that HOF QB in the lineup. Every year or two maybe you can get some teams interested in trading for one of our QBs which allows us to being in more resources in the draft. 

The true method of a QB Factory. 

If the 49ers manage to land a stud QB they're going to be a problem for awhile. 

And I would trade my first born for Deebo.

Just now, DEagle7 said:

If the 49ers manage to land a stud QB they're going to be a problem for awhile. 

And I would trade my first born for Deebo.

Same can be said for the Titans. Image Rodgers or Wilson leading the QB position with that run game, stud defense and two star WRs? 

Now that is a team that would benefit from a Rodgers/Wilson move. We are not even close to that. 

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

After watching yesterday's games, easy to understand why the Eagles prioritize OL/DL. It's just so hard to win in the playoffs without winning the LOS, especially when you have bad weather affecting the passing game + refs less likely to call pass interference/holding.

That's why it's frustrating when they don't run the ball with a strong o-line. Makes no sense 

20 minutes ago, RLC said:

After watching yesterday's games, easy to understand why the Eagles prioritize OL/DL. It's just so hard to win in the playoffs without winning the LOS, especially when you have bad weather affecting the passing game + refs less likely to call pass interference/holding.

The Eagles always build on DL/OL for as long as I can remember.  The current DL is getting long on the teeth and need some infusion of new blood. They should use at least 1 of the 1st round pick on DL.  We also need a physical RB who get the yards in bad weather and move the chain.  Like the SB season when we had 2 such RBs.  

Just thinking about the AFC with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, and Herbert for the next few years.

Other than Murray, is there a decent, young QB in the NFC?

 

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Just thinking about the AFC with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, and Herbert for the next few years.

 

Yes, but we have Hurts! He'll run all over those bottom 10 teams and you'll like it.

39 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That game last night proved that weather is the great equalizer.  Jimmy G didn't win that game and A Rod didn't lose that game  SF took away Adams and that was it for GB.  They should have run the ball more in that weather.  But passing and catching in those conditions is really tough.  That's why I thought it was a ridiculous hot take to criticize Kittle for the one drop, especially since he made that ridiculous catch earlier in the game.  Weird ish happens in those conditions.  

 

To some how rationalize, because SF beat GB/A Rod with an average QB is reason enough to not try to upgrade our QB situation is absolutely insane.  That just means whoever is making that argument is a Hurts fan for whatever reason.  He is not the guy.  And for the record, not that it matters, but Jimmy G is a better QB than Hurts.  Take the running out of it and it isn't close.  

People hate A Rod for mostly political reasons, which is dumb, but he did not lose that game.  SF's defense and their special teams won it.  

Definitely a D/ST and Deebo win for the Niners. Packers losing Dillon early truly affected the outcome of that game IMO. He’s better than Jones, and miles better than Taylor. 

21 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Just thinking about the AFC with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, and Herbert for the next few years.

Other than Murray, is there a decent, young QB in the NFC?

 

The Bears and Niners are praying to every god imaginable that they have one. Other than that, no. Which is the only reason I consider trading for Watson. We instantly have the best young QB in the conference. 

34 minutes ago, Penn7980 said:

The Eagles always build on DL/OL for as long as I can remember.  The current DL is getting long on the teeth and need some infusion of new blood. They should use at least 1 of the 1st round pick on DL.  We also need a physical RB who get the yards in bad weather and move the chain.  Like the SB season when we had 2 such RBs.  

They absolutely will.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Interesting final three in the NFC. I think LA is a bad matchup for TB because Ramsey can help neutralize Evans — even in the slot. Gronk is an issue for sure, but the other healthy receivers are bad. Donald can apply pressure right in Brady’s face.

That said, I think the Bucs match up really well with SF. They have an OL to slow down their pass rush, and the Niners don’t have an answer for Evans other than to double. They have the defense to force Jimmy G to win the game. 

I agree rams will be tougher matchup , for the Bucs to win , Johnson , Miller or John Brown who knows the system , will have to step up . Fournette being back will be huge , game will come down to turnovers .

9 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

What plays specifically tonight did Rodgers leave on the field?

For example with Hurts people can point to a number of plays that he didn't make.

I didn't see anything tonight that Rodgers messed up. This falls under the sports cliches of when a team doesn't succeed it's just on the QB. I don't buy into that line of thinking. It's simplistic and has no nuance. It's always a generalization "If he played well his team would have won."

If a player is responsible for their team losing, then it stands to reason people could give specific things they failed at to cause their team to lose. I didn't watch the all 22, but upon first glance I didn't see anything Rodgers did wrong in this game. Was on point with his throws. Made plays when guys were open.

There just weren't a lot of guys open. The Niners D played well, the special teams gave away multiple points, and they were a key fumble on a crucial drive.

But if there were plays tonight he left out there that I didn't spot, by all means.

He threw into triple coverage high and hard in the cold on that interception that gave the 49ers great field position for the win.

1 hour ago, RLC said:

After watching yesterday's games, easy to understand why the Eagles prioritize OL/DL. It's just so hard to win in the playoffs without winning the LOS, especially when you have bad weather affecting the passing game + refs less likely to call pass interference/holding.

It’s the obvious priority for us, and it’s a good one. We are in a perfect position to set up both lines for many years to come.

I thought I saw a stat , bengals and niners both won with a combined 0 TDs from the QBs and 13 sacks combined , pretty bad football 

Wow , crazy but I can see it 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

I thought I saw a stat , bengals and niners both won with a combined 0 TDs from the QBs and 13 sacks combined , pretty bad football 

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

Yikes 

48 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Just thinking about the AFC with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, and Herbert for the next few years.

Other than Murray, is there a decent, young QB in the NFC?

 

Dak is pretty good.

People here now really clamoring for Jimmy G? Hurts is better. 

51 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Just thinking about the AFC with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, and Herbert for the next few years.

Other than Murray, is there a decent, young QB in the NFC?

 

 

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

People here now really clamoring for Jimmy G? Hurts is better. 

Jalen Hurts.

Looking again at the Stafford trade.

The firsts Detroit received were in future years.  And probably looked at as late firsts in negotiations.

Can't see two current year, mid-round firsts being equal in value.

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

People here now really clamoring for Jimmy G? Hurts is better. 

What's pretty cool is that you get to post this again next weekend because Jimmy G is still playing and Hurts isn't.