17 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I couldn't agree more. First off, there is nowhere for him to play this year since he is too small to play guard. Second, even IF Kelce retires after 2022 they can move Seumalo or Dickerson to center and Driscoll can play G, or they can just sign or draft a C/G next year. Hell, they could probably get a decent C/G prospect in the 4th or 5th round in this year's draft. Linderbaum is one pick that would have me furious on draft night.

I agree. They have the best OL coach in the league. Take a developmental guy on day 3 at C. Or take a great G prospect in R3/4 to compete with Seumalo for starting RG and move Seumalo to C next year.

17 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Simms says that no way Thibodeaux goes top 20. Geez.

If Thibodeaux is there at 15/18, I don't see how you pass on him unless he's got a pending murder charge.

14 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

What makes Davis a no brainer at 15. He’s a run stuffing DT in a passing league, which can be found in free agency without using valuable first round picks on.

 

‘There are like 3 difference-making DTs in the entire NFL and all the other "good” DTs are pretty much in the same class. They aren’t liabilities, but they don’t dominate either. What are the odds you’re going to get one of those rare guys who wreck crap like Aaron Donald?

The Eagles have poured countless resources into DT over the last decade and they haven’t had a dominant pass rush since the Reid days. I wonder why that is.

DT's with his combination of size and athleticism don't grow on trees. His bull rush will draw a double team on every passing down (and might not be enough), and frees up our LBers from 2nd level blocks on running plays. He's the size of an OT with amazing measurables.

So we getting Davis at 15 and Thibodeaux at 18?

I don't buy that Thib is going to drop out of the top 10. What happened to make him drop?

1 minute ago, garingovt2000 said:

So we getting Davis at 15 and Thibodeaux at 18?

Don't toy with my emotions.

3 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

I don't buy that Thib is going to drop out of the top 10. What happened to make him drop?

Pretty sure he's been a bad interview, many think he doesn't love the game, and all his other personal interests.  Just from what I've heard/read

1 hour ago, The Blackfish said:

 Did they franchise tag Robinson?  If not Doug may go OT. 

Yeah they franchised him

4 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

So we getting Davis at 15 and Thibodeaux at 18?

Only one of those, we need a #2 WR.

Question is, Davis or Thibodeaux?

I'd rather Thibodeaux.

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Only one of those, we need a #2 WR.

Question is, Davis or Thibodeaux?

I'd rather Thibodeaux.

Plenty of WR talent in R2-4. Pickens, Watson, Pierce, Moore, Shakir, etc. They need a WR2 with some size to play X. All these R1 guys are 6' 200 lbs. 

7 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I agree. They have the best OL coach in the league. Take a developmental guy on day 3 at C. Or take a great G prospect in R3/4 to compete with Seumalo for starting RG and move Seumalo to C next year.

If Thibodeaux is there at 15/18, I don't see how you pass on him unless he's got a pending murder charge.

DT's with his combination of size and athleticism don't grow on trees. His bull rush will draw a double team on every passing down (and might not be enough), and frees up our LBers from 2nd level blocks on running plays. He's the size of an OT with amazing measurables.

Feel like the risk at 15/18 is worth taking on thibodeaux unless he has a big off the field issue or major health concern. He has a chance to be a big time game changer if he pans out. 

6 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

I don't buy that Thib is going to drop out of the top 10. What happened to make him drop?

The knock on him going around is that he has trouble bending the edge.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Feel like the risk at 15/18 is worth taking on thibodeaux unless he has a big off the field issue or major health concern. He has a chance to be a big time game changer if he pans out. 

Agreed.

10 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

I don't buy that Thib is going to drop out of the top 10. What happened to make him drop?

Think it’s just that time of the year where people get weird with their takes 

4 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

The knock on him going around is that he has trouble bending the edge.

He honestly needs to develop a move or two. Without it, he'll be a big TFL/pressure guy but no guaranteed double digit sack guy every year. His pursuit speed is a big plus, but he's gotten by with power a lot in college which may not translate to the NFL. I'd still gladly take the dice roll on someone with his traits and teach him a spin or cross chop.

12 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I agree. They have the best OL coach in the league. Take a developmental guy on day 3 at C. Or take a great G prospect in R3/4 to compete with Seumalo for starting RG and move Seumalo to C next year.

If Thibodeaux is there at 15/18, I don't see how you pass on him unless he's got a pending murder charge.

DT's with his combination of size and athleticism don't grow on trees. His bull rush will draw a double team on every passing down (and might not be enough), and frees up our LBers from 2nd level blocks on running plays. He's the size of an OT with amazing measurables.

I think saying his bull rush will draw double teams on every single passing down is major hyperbole. That didn’t even happen at Georgia, but would somehow happen in the NFL against better competition. He does have amazing measurables, I’ll give him that. You figure a guy with those measurables would’ve been generational in their dominance and he wasn’t. He was very good for Georgia. But he also played in a loaded defense and didn’t stand out in terms of penetration at the position. I’m concerned about that.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

I think saying his bull rush will draw double teams on every single passing down is major hyperbole. That didn’t even happen at Georgia, but would somehow happen in the NFL against better competition. He does have amazing measurables, I’ll give him that. You figure a guy with those measurables would’ve been generational in their dominance and he wasn’t. He was very good for Georgia. But he also played in a loaded defense and didn’t stand out in terms of penetration at the position. I’m concerned about that.

Yes, admittedly a little hyperbole. But, that's not what he was asked to do there. You think it's any coincidence that Dean, Walker, and Tindall all enjoyed lucrative careers with him in front of them? He can easily walk your center back 2-3 yards creating a new LOS and is almost impossible to single block, freeing up your other rushers and LBers.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

As the appointed EMB racist, the last time I was in Ontario, I saw so many black squirrels all over the parks.  Never knew there was such a thing.  Really neat to see.

Tons of black squirrels everywhere, my dog has managed to catch a number of them. They aren't like that everywhere in the northeast? 

And...just for you, in Toronto there's a celebrity squirrel. I feel it would be your symbol:

https://twitter.com/whitesquirrelto?lang=en

We even have a street near the park called White Squirrel Way

17 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

What makes Davis a no brainer at 15. He’s a run stuffing DT in a passing league, which can be found in free agency without using valuable first round picks on.

 

‘There are like 3 difference-making DTs in the entire NFL and all the other "good” DTs are pretty much in the same class. They aren’t liabilities, but they don’t dominate either. What are the odds you’re going to get one of those rare guys who wreck crap like Aaron Donald?

The Eagles have poured countless resources into DT over the last decade and they haven’t had a dominant pass rush since the Reid days. I wonder why that is.

Jordan Davis has a high floor and the potential to turn into a difference maker given his physical tools.  To me, he's a no-brainer type pick.  The Eagles were 3rd in the NFL in sacks in 2020.  They were 31st last season but one reason might be the defensive philosophy because teams passed easily on the team.  

12 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

I don't buy that Thib is going to drop out of the top 10. What happened to make him drop?

He's thought to not have the right mental make up because he's not committed to football.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Jordan Davis has a high floor and the potential to turn into a difference maker given his physical tools.  To me, he's a no-brainer type pick.  The Eagles were 3rd in the NFL in sacks in 2020.  They were 31st last season but one reason might be the defensive philosophy because teams passed easily on the team.   

That for me is so nice in a 1st round pick...the high floor. I don't foresee any way in which Jordan Davis can bust out, barring injury.

9 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Yes, admittedly a little hyperbole. But, that's not what he was asked to do there. You think it's any coincidence that Dean, Walker, and Tindall all enjoyed lucrative careers with him in front of them? He can easily walk your center back 2-3 yards creating a new LOS and is almost impossible to single block, freeing up your other rushers and LBers.

I like Davis as a prospect. I love Ojabo's potential though. Rumblings from draft guys was the Eagles loved him too, which knowing the Eagles who knows if that's a good or bad thing. But if the Eagles truly loved him enough to want to even trade up for him if they had to, as had been rumored before he tore his achilles, that tells you they think he has a chance to be a generational pass rusher. Which IMO is the 3rd most important thing you can have on a football team behind elite QB and OTs. If they truly feel that way about him, then I think allowing an injury as a rookie to have them just move on from him would be crazy. Now, you have to factor in value too. And if the Eagles because Ojabo falls can land both Davis and Ojabo by maneuvering around the draft board, so much the better.

But in a vacuum, in 7 years if we look back and say "Who had the better career as a difference-making draft pick," I think the chances are higher for Ojabo. I also think he has a higher chance of being a total bust too. I think he has an absurdly high ceiling, but also a lower floor than Davis, who I think will be good for a long time, but maybe not the disruptive dominant DT you tend to desire in round 1.

This team hasn't gotten consistent pressure off the edge since the Reid days, and I think that's one of the many problems they need to solve for good, and given this is a loaded edge draft, after missing out premium positions in loaded classes at other positions in recent years, it would suck if they missed out again this year.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

I haven't given it a lot of thought, but I haven't been to Eastern Canada since 2005 other than flying through.  I can't imagine there's much variation on poutine recipes throughout the country -- it's mostly just fries, beef broth and cheese curds. 

The only memorable food experience I don't miss from the East was them giving me this concoction called Brio -- apparently Ontario's version of Cola.  I remember tasting it and asking them how they slept at night.   They asked "because of the caffeine?" and I said "No; expecting me to swallow this swill, and thanking you for the trouble"

Oh I'm a bit of a poutine connoisseur. The fries are the first thing to get right. Not too thin, not too wide/flat, must be crispy. They absorb a lot of gravy so have to be able to stay crispy long enough. A little skin is perfectly fine. The gravy, must be beef. I've tried chicken, veggie and turkey gravy, they all suck. Beef only.

Finally, the curds. They must be curds, not shredded cheese, not cheese cut from a block and thrown in. They must squeak when you bite them. If they don't squeak, they suck.

You can then of course throw in additional toppings, such as smoked meat, or pulled pork, or whatever you want really. But the three things listed above must be done right to have a good poutine, IMO.

 

As for Brio, I've only ever seen it in Italian places here, and only my Italian friends order it. I've never tried it and have no desire to, Coca Cola right from a cold can is a top tier beverage that is hard to beat. 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I like Davis as a prospect. I love Ojabo's potential though. Rumblings from draft guys was the Eagles loved him too, which knowing the Eagles who knows if that's a good or bad thing. But if the Eagles truly loved him enough to want to even trade up for him if they had to, as had been rumored before he tore his achilles, that tells you they think he has a chance to be a generational pass rusher. Which IMO is the 3rd most important thing you can have on a football team behind elite QB and OTs. If they truly feel that way about him, then I think allowing an injury as a rookie to have them just move on from him would be crazy. Now, you have to factor in value too. And if the Eagles because Ojabo falls can land both Davis and Ojabo by maneuvering around the draft board, so much the better.

But in a vacuum, in 7 years if we look back and say "Who had the better career as a difference-making draft pick," I think the chances are higher for Ojabo. I also think he has a higher chance of being a total bust too. I think he has an absurdly high ceiling, but also a lower floor than Davis, who I think will be good for a long time, but maybe not the disruptive dominant DT you tend to desire in round 1.

This team hasn't gotten consistent pressure off the edge since the Reid days, and I think that's one of the many problems they need to solve for good, and given this is a loaded edge draft, after missing out premium positions in loaded classes at other positions in recent years, it would suck if they missed out again this year.

If it was an ACL I'd be FAR less apprehensive about picking him. MUCH lower floor than Davis. You're probably right about the ceiling, but I don't want to roll those dice in R1. If he were healthy? Yeah I'd definitely take him at 15. You're also right, it is a loaded edge draft. Ideally I'd like to see days 1/2 go something like:

R1P15- Jordan Davis

R1P18- Andrew Booth

R2P35- Trade up with NYJ for 51/101 and take Arnold Ebiketie/Boye Mafe

R3P83- Alec Pierce 

Jordan Davis is a transformative player on defense. Look at the Bucs' splits with/without Vita Vea. A player like Davis makes everyone better.

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

Ireland makes the best. Almost every household has a jar.

Jar of poutine?  Never heard of that.  Maybe I am mistaken in what poutine is then.   What is poutine?

19 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah he is.  Just because your neighbor walks to work doesn’t make you look cool in your rusted out pinto.  

It's a Yugo.  

11 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think saying his bull rush will draw double teams on every single passing down is major hyperbole. That didn’t even happen at Georgia, but would somehow happen in the NFL against better competition. He does have amazing measurables, I’ll give him that. You figure a guy with those measurables would’ve been generational in their dominance and he wasn’t. He was very good for Georgia. But he also played in a loaded defense and didn’t stand out in terms of penetration at the position. I’m concerned about that.

I think part of the idea with someone like Davis is that he would control the A gaps to the point where you run more nickel without worrying about having to go heavy to stop the run. I imagine he would draw some double teams but I don't think he helps the pass rush in that way all of the time.  I do think he will help some and be able to create interior pressure.   I also think he would give the defense flexibility to run a more traditional 3-4 look.  The Rams ran a lot of basically 5 man defensive fronts.  I can see where Davis would be key to making that kind of front much more effective for the Eagles. 

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Jar of poutine?  Never heard of that.  Maybe I am mistaken in what poutine is then.   What is poutine?

Cheese curds and gravy? 

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