19 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Veteran backbone at all 3 levels???

Eagles don't have jack at LB.

BS. White and Reddick is a veteran backbone at LB.

19 minutes ago, Utebird said:

On the DL Cox is clearly declining and graham is coming off a tough Injury at the age where most DEs are mulling retirement.

Hargrave was ok last year but his contract is up after next and even if they did re sign him at that point he'll be over 30 as well 

I am not talking about future needs. This was about if it is possible we field a top defense this year. And it’s possible Cox and Hargrave have a really good year.

19 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Slay is what 32 now?

Those arent veteran backbones those are veteran mill stones.

Slay played phenomenal. Don’t see why he would fall off a cliff. It’s possible but it certainly isn’t certain this year.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

They met with him at the combine, and he is one of the 30 visits they have at the team facility pre draft.

The confusion is Corral said a week ago that walking around the Eagles facilities was an awesome experience but then on instagram or whatever posted he's in Philly today.

3 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Corral has become my favorite QB in this draft by far. I wish he were an inch or 2 taller, but otherwise he's the only guy this year who pretty much has everything.

Yup, would be nice if he were a bit taller but 6'2" is fine he's not a circus midget nor does he have baby hands.

He's got some athletic ability and the quickest release I've seen this year.

His Injury history is a bit worrisome but it's nothing that say will drop him like say Carson strongs knee. 

He's had a few ankle sprains not like his arm fell off.

The one thing I dont really like about him is a trait he shares with most college qbs these days is he seems to be a one read then take off QB, now is that by design or just him.🤷‍♂️

Either way he has the requisite arm talent to be successful in the NFL where as the eagles current one read and take off QB does not.

 

Let's keep pushing this Ridder in the top 10 agenda.

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

massive gamble. thats the same story with Trubisky as a prospect. Look how that turned out. 

Aqueel Glass offers all of the same things as these early guys, and you can have Glass round 7 or UDFA according to draft sites. 

Trubisky was also a one year wonder and came out as a Jr 

His production before that was pretty slim.

Where as corral has a Jr and senior year of production and even more playing time as a sophomore than trubisky had as a sophomore.

Any time one uses a 1st round pick on any player of any position it's a risk.

Isn't this like weeks old news?

3 hours ago, downundermike said:

Lumping all those QB's together in the bolded is incorrect.

Trubisky, Mariota, Tua, Murray, Manziel, RGIII would be the next Vick, not the next Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow or Allen.   Different type of QB.  And why did you leave out we could find the next Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, Big Ben, Stafford, or the next wave, Lawrence, Jones.

Just because they might flame out, does not mean you do not take a shot.  It is in my signature, the words of the owner of the team.  

Personally I would take over half of those bolded QBs over Hurts right now.  

1 hour ago, bitbased said:

With how everything is trending I'm wondering if we're going to have a crazy run on WR. I'm doubtful whether Pickens and Watson make it out of the Top 40 now.

Man, love the deja vu.  You can see how the picks of teams are going and that in a draft loaded with #2 WRs, you can foresee the run on those receivers.  Amazing.  Does it work on Lotto numbers too?

In all seriousness, Pickens and Watson remain unpolished receivers and Watson has drop issues. Nothing has changed for the scouting staffs and front offices except they met with some prospects, likely for a feel about them and how they may take the team’s coaching. 

Draft "pundits” continue to do mocks.  That’s really the only thing that has changed except the Wyatt domestic abuse allegation.  (And second medical visits post Combine, which haven’t leaked to the general public.  About all that ever leaks from those is that there was a second visit, unless some agent blows smoke.)

 

5 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

Of the big 3, he is my favorite prospect. He has flaws that are correctable but packs an elite arm, played the best competition, and has mobility.

Biggest knocks are durability concerns and the offense he comes from.

I take Corral or Ridder over Pickett or Willis.

5 hours ago, What The F said:

Why take Corral in the 1st when you can take Strong in the 2nd or maybe even 3rd?  Strong > Corral 

That's an interesting take. Corral is a bonafide R1-2 guy. Strong will probably still be sitting there in the 3rd. I don't want a run first QB, but I don't want a statue either...especially one with degenerative knee conditions that tore up lower-level competition and flamed out at the Senior Bowl.

3 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I would love to see who was the most commonly drafted player in all of the simulated mock drafts shared in the blog the past 3 months.  I would have to put my money on the Punter from SDS. 

PUNTTTTT GODDDDD!

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Here's a list of "QB needy teams" that have brought in a QB prospect on a visit. While they can still take a QB without using a visit, it would be pretty surprising to do that with QB specifically, especially in this class, in the top first half of the draft.

Lions: none

Texans: D'Eriq King

Giants: Sam Howell, Kenny Pickett, Malik Willis

Panthers: Matt Corral, Sam Howell, Kenny Pickett, Desmond Ridder, Malik Willis, Bailey Zappe

Falcons: Sam Howell, Malik Willis

Seahawks: Desmond Ridder

Commies: none

Saints (if they decide to trade up): Sam Howell, Matt Corral

Kinda surprised with the Sam Howell love. Panthers are clearly going QB but it seems so far most teams are looking elsewhere. 

 

I'm not. He's an end of R1/top of R2 prospect who had a great year in 2020, then fell off a cliff (while simultaneously becoming a runner) when he lost his top 2 WR's and top 2 RB's in the same draft class.

16 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

- Quick and tight throwing mechanics.

- Big and accurate arm.

- Was not asked to go through reads or complicated concepts.

- Everything was quick passing and RPOs.

He says teams need to evaluate his ability to process and make decisions, it's not that he can't do it, he just wasn't asked to do it in Ole Miss.

He also faced better competition than everyone in the SEC.

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

massive gamble. thats the same story with Trubisky as a prospect. Look how that turned out. 

Aqueel Glass offers all of the same things as these early guys, and you can have Glass round 7 or UDFA according to draft sites. 

No, he doesn't.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Let's keep pushing this Ridder in the top 10 agenda.

Ridder at 15-18 is not crazy if the Eagles love him and think the Saints or Steelers would try to jump them.

Dodgers pull kershaw after 7 innings of a perfect game. Ridiculous. Baseball is so soft

6 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

 

 

No, he doesn't.

 

Ah. Ok. I thought we were talking about QB skills these days since we decidedly do not like Hurts and dont care about his running ability. 

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

One GMs view on CBs

Licht explained that big athletic corners are more important than ever because receivers don’t run true routes any longer.

"So the corner that had all the great change of direction and all that stuff, you know, that’s still a valuable asset. But if you’re long and you can run a little and you’re instinctive and you can tackle, you know, you’re going to be able to cover these guys now,” Licht said. "So that’s just the way the game has kind of morphed.”

Tay Gowan at UCF. 

If anyone could legit justify Corral with one of our firsts, then you can justify anyone trading up in front of us to get him. 

Lions, Texans, Seahawks, maybe the Giants, Falcons, Commanders even aren't out of the QB hunt.  Houston picks in front of us twice.  I would bet the Giants would be more than happy to trade one of their firsts for more picks.

And then you have the Saints and Steelers that are desperate for a franchise QB. 

Too many variables there. 

46 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

It’s feeling like Strong is going to drop 3rd round maybe further , not a fan of his anyway . Big strong arm statue  .

The way he stares down WRs reminds me of Kevin Kolb at UH.  Can work in college but not in the pros. 

Kurt Warner on Matt Carrol:

 

- Uses his eyes very well to see the field and manipulate defenders.

- Really good compact delivery with touch on the passes.

- Very good with the quick passing game and quick decisions.

- Does not overpower the throw unnecessarily.

- Ability to throw from different platforms.

- Limits the movements when throwing the ball which leads to efficient throws.

Bottom Line: Actuary, decision making, and quick delivery.

10 minutes ago, hukdonfoniks said:

If anyone could legit justify Corral with one of our firsts, then you can justify anyone trading up in front of us to get him. 

Lions, Texans, Seahawks, maybe the Giants, Falcons, Commanders even aren't out of the QB hunt.  Houston picks in front of us twice.  I would bet the Giants would be more than happy to trade one of their firsts for more picks.

And then you have the Saints and Steelers that are desperate for a franchise QB. 

Too many variables there. 

Smells more like trading out for someone to come get him…

10 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

The way he stares down WRs reminds me of Kevin Kolb at UH.  Can work in college but not in the pros. 

He's Jacob Eason 2.0.

 

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Smells more like trading out for someone to come get him…

Fingers crossed

16 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ah. Ok. I thought we were talking about QB skills these days since we decidedly do not like Hurts and dont care about his running ability. 

No. You said, "Aqueel Glass offers all of the same things as these early guys, and you can have Glass round 7 or UDFA according to draft sites." He has hands as small as Pickett, faced weak competition, and most of the K's and P's are better all around athletes than him. So no, he does not offer he same things as Pickett, Willis, Ridder, Corral, and even Howell or Strong. I don't put a huge stock in RAS for QB's, but the man can't even broad jump 9' or get 2' off the ground.

13 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

The way he stares down WRs reminds me of Kevin Kolb at UH.  Can work in college but not in the pros. 

I lost a lot of faith in Strong after the Senior Bowl. 3rd round at best. I'd be interested in Zappe over him.

1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

No. You said, "Aqueel Glass offers all of the same things as these early guys, and you can have Glass round 7 or UDFA according to draft sites." He has hands as small as Pickett, faced weak competition, and most of the K's and P's are better all around athletes than him. So no, he does not offer he same things as Pickett, Willis, Ridder, Corral, and even Howell or Strong. I don't put a huge stock in RAS for QB's, but the man can't even broad jump 7 feet.

I lost a lot of faith in Strong after the Senior Bowl. 3rd round at best. I'd be interested in Zappe over him.

I think a lot of what Willis, Corral, and Howll offers doesnt matter. Im looking for a QB. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think a lot of what Willis, Corral, and Howll offers doesnt matter. Im looking for a QB. 

 I'm not a Willis guy. Howell to me is a R2 pick. And if we're truly comparing Corral to Glass, it's puff puff pass my friend. Don't hog all that good stuff for yourself. How many QB's ranked in the 7th or UDFA have come in and lit the NFL on fire? Go ahead, Google it. I'll wait.

3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

 I'm not a Willis guy. Howell to me is a R2 pick. And if we're truly comparing Corral to Glass, it's puff puff pass my friend. Don't hog all that good stuff for yourself.

Neither is likely to be an elite QB. The value on Glass is way better. Corral doesnt have any idea how to run an NFL offense, like Trubisky. He is a gimmick QB. Some natural talent, but not at all ready for a job in the NFL. The fact that we are talking about any of these guys in round 1 is ridiculous. 

If Corral was correctly valued in round 4 where he belongs, then its not so much of a stretch to be compared to another later round QB. Your perception is skewed by the overvaluing of terrible QB prospects this year. 

Eagles are blowing a smoke screen on Corral. "Hey, someone tweet out that we love Corral."

The more QB's get selected before the Eagles draft, the higher the probability that a player they actually want drops to them.

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

One GMs view on CBs

Licht explained that big athletic corners are more important than ever because receivers don’t run true routes any longer.

"So the corner that had all the great change of direction and all that stuff, you know, that’s still a valuable asset. But if you’re long and you can run a little and you’re instinctive and you can tackle, you know, you’re going to be able to cover these guys now,” Licht said. "So that’s just the way the game has kind of morphed.”

Think it's more a matter of offenses going more college spread, so there are more receiver slots but not more polished receivers, while defenses are playing more zone schemes, where you don't need guys who excel in man to man, especially deep, and length and ball skills have more value.

I've always thought that the moneyball play was to invest in safeties with good range and CBs who can cover underneath with good hips and anticipation, but lack top end speed so they drop into the 2nd and 3rd rounds.