Just listened to an interesting interview on NFL Radio with a Cardinals beat writer, who says part of the impasse on a Murray extension goes to a lack of leadership skills, and many of the brass and players were very put off — not only by his poor play in the wildcard loss, but that he refused to go back into the game.

He also related a story about Zach Ertz.  Right after the Cards acquired him, Ertz arranged to fly cross country and be on their charter flight for their next road game — even though Ertz wouldn’t be in the Cards’ lineup yet that week.  He was seated next to Kyler Murray and spent the entire flight talking with him to build a rapport.  Continued speaking with Murray at the hotel, and also the entire flight back.  The reporter pointed out that when Ertz recently re-signed with ARI that it was quite disappointing there was no post from Kyler Murray welcoming Ertz back.  There was no post welcoming James Conner back either.

Sounds like Murray is a player I would much rather trade for draft capital than re-sign to a mega extension.

12 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Dont agree i got 13 guys between de cb and s

thats with no ol wb or wr going…

Who else other than Hamilton do you have at S going in the first 13? I like Hill a lot but that seems optimistic even for him.

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Just listened to an interesting interview on NFL Radio with a Cardinals beat writer, who says part of the impasse on a Murray extension goes to a lack of leadership skills, and many of the brass and players were very put off — not only by his poor play in the wildcard loss, but that he refused to go back into the game.

He also related a story about Zach Ertz.  Right after the Cards acquired him, Ertz arranged to fly cross country and be on their charter flight for their next road game — even though Ertz wouldn’t be in the Cards’ lineup yet that week.  He was seated next to Kyler Murray and spent the entire flight talking with him to build a rapport.  Continued speaking with Murray at the hotel, and also the entire flight back.  The reporter pointed out that when Ertz recently re-signed with ARI that it was quite disappointing there was no post from Kyler Murray welcoming Ertz back.  There was no post welcoming James Conner back either.

Sounds like Murray is a player I would much rather trade for draft capital than re-sign to a mega extension.

 There was also the rumor (?) that Murray doesn't study tape at all either. I'd have no interest in him.

Here is a video about Pete Prisco's "Better Than Team". Saying some of these mid-late round guys will be better than a certain player projected ahead of him. 

Touches on Bubba Bolden who is a later round safety I like. Sam Williams who people have been catching on to (but he has character concerns). 

There are some other players on his list that dont get mentioned in the video such as Neil Farrell Jr , DT from LSU and Christopher Allen, LB from Alabama. 2 guys I havent even really heard of. I need to look in to them. Farrell is 6'4'' 335lb, so for those of us who have been thinking the eagles are looking for an big nose, here may be an option other than the early guys like Davis and Jones. 

Here is a link to his article where you can see all 20 of his players. I wish it said who exactly he thinks they will be better than. But he does name a few in the video.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2022-nfl-draft-better-than-team-here-are-20-prospects-pete-prisco-likes-more-than-the-scouts-do/

 

Here are Farrell's 1 on 1 senior bowl reps

 

and highlights

 

33 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Just listened to an interesting interview on NFL Radio with a Cardinals beat writer, who says part of the impasse on a Murray extension goes to a lack of leadership skills, and many of the brass and players were very put off — not only by his poor play in the wildcard loss, but that he refused to go back into the game.

He also related a story about Zach Ertz.  Right after the Cards acquired him, Ertz arranged to fly cross country and be on their charter flight for their next road game — even though Ertz wouldn’t be in the Cards’ lineup yet that week.  He was seated next to Kyler Murray and spent the entire flight talking with him to build a rapport.  Continued speaking with Murray at the hotel, and also the entire flight back.  The reporter pointed out that when Ertz recently re-signed with ARI that it was quite disappointing there was no post from Kyler Murray welcoming Ertz back.  There was no post welcoming James Conner back either.

Sounds like Murray is a player I would much rather trade for draft capital than re-sign to a mega extension.

Living out here and watching the cardinals a lot, i think he’s overrated. He always starts off like gangbusters. Then gets banged up. and finished the season less than stellar. Some of this is on kingsbury but some of this is on him just not being as good midway and end of the year as the first 5-6 weeks. I can understand why the cardinals are hesitant. I also think he’s immature and i from what I’ve heard it’s not crazy that he goes back to baseball at some point in time. 

26 minutes ago, bitbased said:

 There was also the rumor (?) that Murray doesn't study tape at all either. I'd have no interest in him.

Murray would just nail Mailata or Dickerson in the back of their helmet all game 

39 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Just listened to an interesting interview on NFL Radio with a Cardinals beat writer, who says part of the impasse on a Murray extension goes to a lack of leadership skills, and many of the brass and players were very put off — not only by his poor play in the wildcard loss, but that he refused to go back into the game.

He also related a story about Zach Ertz.  Right after the Cards acquired him, Ertz arranged to fly cross country and be on their charter flight for their next road game — even though Ertz wouldn’t be in the Cards’ lineup yet that week.  He was seated next to Kyler Murray and spent the entire flight talking with him to build a rapport.  Continued speaking with Murray at the hotel, and also the entire flight back.  The reporter pointed out that when Ertz recently re-signed with ARI that it was quite disappointing there was no post from Kyler Murray welcoming Ertz back.  There was no post welcoming James Conner back either.

Sounds like Murray is a player I would much rather trade for draft capital than re-sign to a mega extension.

I’m not even that old and it’s embarrassing what football and it’s players are becoming 

37 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Just listened to an interesting interview on NFL Radio with a Cardinals beat writer, who says part of the impasse on a Murray extension goes to a lack of leadership skills, and many of the brass and players were very put off — not only by his poor play in the wildcard loss, but that he refused to go back into the game.

He also related a story about Zach Ertz.  Right after the Cards acquired him, Ertz arranged to fly cross country and be on their charter flight for their next road game — even though Ertz wouldn’t be in the Cards’ lineup yet that week.  He was seated next to Kyler Murray and spent the entire flight talking with him to build a rapport.  Continued speaking with Murray at the hotel, and also the entire flight back.  The reporter pointed out that when Ertz recently re-signed with ARI that it was quite disappointing there was no post from Kyler Murray welcoming Ertz back.  There was no post welcoming James Conner back either.

Sounds like Murray is a player I would much rather trade for draft capital than re-sign to a mega extension.

 He probably believes that he can just get by, and if not, play baseball.  In terms of not being an ass, Hurts was the guy to get after playing for Lincoln Riley, Mayfield has different issues, but issues nonetheless.

Christopher Allen has prototype 3-4 OLB size. He is 6'4'' 242lb with 33'' arms and 10'' hands. Wouldnt terribly mind making him a DE with a few extra pounds. Seems like a late rounder due to very limited playing time/injury. Seems to have a lot of talent to work with. 

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Who else other than Hamilton do you have at S going in the first 13? I like Hill a lot but that seems optimistic even for him.

Hill is reasonable for our picks. Cine you can make a case for.

i should have clarified i meant my rd 1 board

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Hill is reasonable for our picks. Cine you can make a case for.

i should have clarified i meant my rd 1 board

Ah got it that makes more sense. I thought you meant in the first 13. 

Yeah I wouldn't hate either at 18. Safeties do generally drop a bit in the draft but I doubt either make it to 51 unfortunately. 

7 hours ago, eagle45 said:

The issue with the Georgia DT’s is the lack of upside for the position.  The Eagles consistently, richly, invest in major resources in the DT position.  The result is that the position is never a weakness and the middle of our line is never soft.  That may have been more mission critical in 2000 than it is today.  In a passing league, a DT who holds his ground but does not blow up an offense may not be worth a first round pick or a mega contract.  We’ve already got a mega contract in Cox and Hargrave.  Milton Williams…not sure if he’s a DT or DE at this point, but he’s very promising.

Do we need a first round DT in that mix?  That’s pretty much a guarantee for a single in the draft when we likely need more than that.

A good DT is always worth a 1st rd pick, problem is it's a "heart" position, b/c even the most talented DTs (Donald excluded) rarely get to the QB, so to be effective, they have to play hard even when they're being stoned 90% of the time. And they have to play the run as hard as they pass rush. Just being big and athletic isn't enough, you have to fight to anchor against double teams on run downs, and push 320 lb guards backwards on pass plays - and that takes a lot of energy to do it snap after snap.

There are a lot of big DTs who do just enough to hang around the league for a decade, but never really impact games. Those are the rotation guys you take in the 3rd to 5th rounds, but you don't want to waste a 1st rd pick on them. The guys who get sealed too often on run plays and get stoned on the pass rush, picking up some counting stats when they get a mismatch, but not beating the top OL.

6 hours ago, bitbased said:

There's likely to not be one at 15 unless if we reach for Ebitekie or Mafe.

If that was the case I'd prefer Davis/Booth, go DE (Thomas) or WR (Pickens) in the 2nd if they're there and then Cross to fill S at 83.

I would have no problem with that.

On the other hand there may well be some good corners in the second too (Elam, McCreary)..

17 hours ago, Utebird said:

Not sure how many if any have heard if this guy.

Utah St. Devan Thompkins, had 102 receptions 1700+ yards and ten TDs.

He'll most likely go undrafted or 6th 7th round because he's only 5'7" 167 pounds.

He ran a 4.4 but on tape he looks faster and pulls away from guys, the way he pulls away from DBs at the catch point and tracks the ball reminds me of desean In a way 

Also has a 38 inch vertical and quick hops 

Outside of his senior year he had average production, he's returned some kicks and Utah State manufactured a lot of his touches on quick screens and  outs and played him off the line or in  bunch formations so he wouldbt have to beat press.

Id take a flyer in him in the 6-7 or UDFA.

Some teams are worried about his size but NFL rules that favor WRs these days doesn't make his lack of size as big a detriment as it used to be. He reminds me a bit of Hamler from Penn St except he's a bit more physical at the point than Hamler. 

 

 

He's tiny but he can move.  Watched him tear up Air Force last fall, I brought him up after that game.

 

uh oh Howie better get ready to lock up Smith before he goes off

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 oh wait Hurts is our qb......................nevermind

10 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Here are Farrell's 1 on 1 senior bowl reps

 

and highlights

 

Greg Cosell really likes Farrell. He’s going to be an older rookie (turns 24 in September). According to Brugler played his best ball as a senior. Had an issue with weight throughout his career. 

14 minutes ago, greend said:

uh oh Howie better get ready to lock up Smith before he goes off

I think the idea to lock players up early is outdated. If they suck you‘re stuck on a bad deal and if they ‚go off‘ they demand more money or sit out.

Team rarely wins anymore unless you want the longer contract to trade the player somewhere else later.

 

If we miss out on a Davis or Jones (potential difference-making NTs), John Ridgeway might make for a decent fallback option in the midrounds. He can’t rush the pass at all, but he has a stout against the run and can two-gap. 

9 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Ah got it that makes more sense. I thought you meant in the first 13. 

Yeah I wouldn't hate either at 18. Safeties do generally drop a bit in the draft but I doubt either make it to 51 unfortunately. 

I agree there.

i just take Hill and solve the deep safety issue, personally. Dire need

 

15 minutes ago, greend said:

 

Undoubtedly there is a post-game quote from him coming that says they would have won the game if the other team’s QB were throwing him the ball more.

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That's what the Zapper fans were looking for.  Zapper Nation celebrates.  

TO now is still way better than Reagor. How sad. 

According to Caplan we have some interest in signing Andre Roberts as a return guy.