2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Tyrod Taylor and Hurts are eerily similar players, on an eerily similar trajectory so far.

 

There is nothing at all similar about their trajectory.  Tyrod didn't start until he was 5 years into his career at 26 years old.  Tyrod then took a step back the second season he saw significant playing instead of improving from the year prior. 

 

There is nothing at all similar about their trajectory.  But they are both black so maybe that's what you meant. 

28 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

https://theathletic.com/3253841/2022/04/18/nfl-mock-draft-eagles/

Nah

Shareef Miller apparently in the USFL. One of the biggest wastes of space in recent Eagles history. Hopeless from the very beginning, sloppy body, horrible attitude (at least publicly).

Championship 

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Championship 

Like the first 2 but we need CB/S to be addressed before LB/T

5 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Shareef Miller apparently in the USFL. One of the biggest wastes of space in recent Eagles history. Hopeless from the very beginning, sloppy body, horrible attitude (at least publicly).

Clayton Thorson is a starting QB. 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Clayton Thorson is a starting QB. 

I wouldnt let that guy be a starter for my kids pee wee league 

7 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Championship 

Ojabo will drop way farther than that. An achilles injury is probably the worst injury you can have.

I agree , WO 1

https://twitter.com/PFF_Fantasy/status/1488561221716484096?s=20&t=q8_Gj_xRgv9dts84eQIwSQ

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

I think a good draft board only has 100-150 players, the ones who you think might start for you someday.

🤦‍♂️

On 4/15/2022 at 12:13 PM, downundermike said:

And this is false.  It is the majority here that are ready to move on from Hurts

If Hurts was expected to be the primary back up and played a Taysom Hill role with the Eagles, people would be OK with him.  

48 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

The biggest "hunch" I have right now is the Eagles drafting Treylon Burks at #18.

I felt like that for quite a while but have since changed my mind.

47 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Yeah, Stingley would be on the board in this scenario.  Johnson goes at #13.  Would rather trade #101 to move up to #13 him than #83 and a 5th for Davis

I would take Johnson in that scenario. 

Love those first 3 picks then.

 

45 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Bad

Mock drafts with trades in them are such bull ish.   

21 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Pickens>Burks

Plus, if you want Burks you get the same exact player in Ezukanma later.

26 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Teams eliminate a lot of players from their board, character, injuries, bad fit for your schemes, etc. Others get demoted to lower tiers.

By the time you get to pick #200, a good board will still have 30-40 players left.

Good example is OL, I'm sure they go over players with Stoutland, if he thinks the player isn't a good fit period, or doesn't seem to be coachable, he's off the board no matter how the amateurs rank him.

The Pats had a year where their draft board was well under 100 players. I want to say it was around 50. 

10 minutes ago, shlo said:

Ojabo will drop way farther than that. An achilles injury is probably the worst injury you can have.

Nah

4 hours ago, greend said:

 

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52 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

Interesting. How did you come to this conclusion? 

2015*	26	BUF	QB	5	14	14	7-6-0	242	380	63.7	3035	20	5.3	6	1.6	129	63	8.0	8.3	12.5	216.8	99.4	66.3	36	212	8.7	6.79	7.10	1	2	14	PB
2016	27	BUF	QB	5	15	15	7-8-0	269	436	61.7	3023	17	3.9	6	1.4	148	84	6.9	7.1	11.2	201.5	89.7	62.4	42	192	8.8	5.92	6.07	1	1	15
2017	28	BUF	QB	5	15	14	8-6-0	263	420	62.6	2799	14	3.3	4	1	133	47	6.7	6.9	10.6	186.6	89.2	56.4	46	256	9.9	5.46	5.67	1	2	12

 

 

2015*	26	BUF	QB	5	14	14	104	568	4	28	31	5.5	40.6	7.4	1	1	4	4.0	0	0	4	0.1	0.3	100.0%	4.0	105	5.4	572	4	9
2016	27	BUF	QB	5	15	15	95	580	6	34	49	6.1	38.7	6.3												95	6.1	580	6	4
2017	28	BUF	QB	5	15	14	84	427	4	28	32	5.1	28.5	5.6

 

These are Tyrod Taylor's numbers in his 3 seasons as Bills starting QB.  The top 3 rows are his passing stats, followed below by his rushing stats.  Team record of 22-20 over those 3 seasons.  His ceiling for passing yards, passing TDs and alternate Pro Bowl nod were all reached in his first season -- with very little or no development afterward over the following two seasons.  Note his rushing stats of 5.5 yards per carry in his first season, which averaged out to about the same over the 3 seasons in total.

Average of 17 passing TDs per season over the 3 seasons.  Didn't throw a lot of picks, but wasn't prolific either in yards or TDs.  Fumbled the football 9 times in his first season as starting QB.  Never developed accuracy as a passer -- actually dropped after his first full season.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Mock drafts with trades in them are such bull ish.   

I don't mind them. Mock draft where there's zero trades are never going to be accurate anyway, especially with the craziness of this one there's bound to be trades. Two teams with two Top 10 picks, six teams with two first round picks and no real consensus top QB picks.

11 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Mock drafts with trades in them are such fun.   

 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

2015*	26	BUF	QB	5	14	14	7-6-0	242	380	63.7	3035	20	5.3	6	1.6	129	63	8.0	8.3	12.5	216.8	99.4	66.3	36	212	8.7	6.79	7.10	1	2	14	PB
2016	27	BUF	QB	5	15	15	7-8-0	269	436	61.7	3023	17	3.9	6	1.4	148	84	6.9	7.1	11.2	201.5	89.7	62.4	42	192	8.8	5.92	6.07	1	1	15
2017	28	BUF	QB	5	15	14	8-6-0	263	420	62.6	2799	14	3.3	4	1	133	47	6.7	6.9	10.6	186.6	89.2	56.4	46	256	9.9	5.46	5.67	1	2	12

 

 

2015*	26	BUF	QB	5	14	14	104	568	4	28	31	5.5	40.6	7.4	1	1	4	4.0	0	0	4	0.1	0.3	100.0%	4.0	105	5.4	572	4	9
2016	27	BUF	QB	5	15	15	95	580	6	34	49	6.1	38.7	6.3												95	6.1	580	6	4
2017	28	BUF	QB	5	15	14	84	427	4	28	32	5.1	28.5	5.6

 

These are Tyrod Taylor's numbers in his 3 seasons as Bills starting QB.  The top 3 rows are his passing stats, followed below by his rushing stats.  Team record of 22-20 over those 3 seasons.  His ceiling for passing yards, passing TDs and alternate Pro Bowl nod were all reached in his first season -- with very little or no development afterward over the following two seasons.  Note his rushing stats of 5.5 yards per carry in his first season, which averaged out to about the same over the 3 seasons in total.

Average of 17 passing TDs per season over the 3 seasons.  Didn't throw a lot of picks, but wasn't prolific either in yards or TDs.  Fumbled the football 9 times in his first season as starting QB.  Never developed accuracy as a passer -- actually dropped after his first full season.

 

 

There is a massive difference between the two QBs career trajectories. You have one that started games as a rookie and then took over his second year. You have another who did not start until year 5 of his career.

That makes a huge difference. 

Guys we get it, mock drafts aren't really accurate. Analysts do them to get clicks and fans read/do them to feel involved in the process and kill time. 

Let people enjoy things. 

The best thing that can happen for us this draft is for the Lions to take a QB at #2 and cause an early run on them.

4 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

There is a massive difference between the two QBs career trajectories. You have one that started games as a rookie and then took over his second year. You have another who did not start until year 5 of his career.

That makes a huge difference. 

They're the same height, almost the same weight, same lack of arm strength, Taylor still has his own website for self-promotion ....

If Rod Serling were still alive he'd be working on the episode as we speak ....