3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Non-lawyer, but yes, this has the appearance of a non disclosure of potential conflict.  "Judge” should have recused. 

 @Desertbirds also a non-lawyer, but I agree.

Wonder which GM Howie is responding to with this.  "We’re not going to move back 10 picks for a fifth-round pick,” Roseman said. "So, I think at the end of the day you kind of go through all those and you have a really good sense of what you want to do.“

1 minute ago, bitbased said:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2022-nfl-seven-round-mock-draft-trades-in-every-round-seahawks-go-qb-in-round-2-falcons-pick-malik-willis/

So this mock has us trading down 18 to the Bears for 39/48 + 2023 3rd. I don't agree with our picks are correct. Kind of okay with Booth at 15 if the board falls that way, but the 2nd picks seem wrong. If we don't go WR in the 1st there's probably zero chance we pass on Pickens @ 39. Brisker and Travis Jones still available @ 48 which I think is the direction we'd go instead.

Bears are one team that really can't afford to trade up. They can barely field a team and already are low on draft capital. 

Just now, DEagle7 said:

Bears are one team that really can't afford to trade up. They can barely field a team and already are low on draft capital. 

Yeah, that's true. They don't have many picks. Whenever I do mocks, I generally try a trade with the Jets because they're most likely to move around with four picks in the Top 40. 35/38 is a nice spot if they want to trade up if they don't trade down from 10. 

33 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Oh, you mean that game they won in absolutely horrid conditions ??  Mac Jones across the board was way better than Hurts in his first 17 starts.

Meanwhile Hurts plays in 15mph winds and we have to hear about how windy it is for him

One more week, then we can argue about how bad Howie's picks were ..... no matter who Howie's picks were.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/21/howie-roseman-shares-an-intriguing-philosophy-about-following-trends-in-team-building/

“[Y]ou have to make a decision on what your priorities are on building the team, whether you’re going to kind of go with the flow or you’re going to kind of figure out what is the most important thing for your team and if there’s some value in being different and figuring out what now is kind of the next area,” Roseman told reporters. "I think we spent a lot of time, Coach [Nick Sirianni] and I talk about this all the time, if we’re going to be the same as everyone else, we’re probably going to finish in the middle of the pack. Sometimes you have to take risks and you have to stand out there and do something different than everyone else. So that doesn’t mean that there aren’t right decisions to make at that position. But at the same time, if you’re doing the same thing that everyone else is doing, you’re probably a step late.”

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

One more week, then we can argue about how bad Howie's picks were ..... no matter who Howie's picks were.

We can't start now?

7 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/21/howie-roseman-shares-an-intriguing-philosophy-about-following-trends-in-team-building/

“[Y]ou have to make a decision on what your priorities are on building the team, whether you’re going to kind of go with the flow or you’re going to kind of figure out what is the most important thing for your team and if there’s some value in being different and figuring out what now is kind of the next area,” Roseman told reporters. "I think we spent a lot of time, Coach [Nick Sirianni] and I talk about this all the time, if we’re going to be the same as everyone else, we’re probably going to finish in the middle of the pack. Sometimes you have to take risks and you have to stand out there and do something different than everyone else. So that doesn’t mean that there aren’t right decisions to make at that position. But at the same time, if you’re doing the same thing that everyone else is doing, you’re probably a step late.”

I read this as, Howie is going to draft two punters and a FB...cuz different☹️

24 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I like the Kerby Joseph pick.  I would rather grab Cine.  I am not sure what the team gets out of taking a player like Ridder.  He's unlikely to take over as a starter and even if he did would leave us with the same questions as Hurts in terms of still needing a better QB.  Gordon and Jones are good picks.  If the team added Zion Johnson or Muma at 39, I think that would be an A+ draft.  

Hurts goes, Minshew starts the year, then Ridder eventually replaces him. I'm a big Ridder fan, think he has great potential. 

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

We can all agree that Hurts showed the same weaknesses with this team as he did in college as a passer.  That's Hurts in context.  The coaching staff saw it for themselves and limited Hurts' attempts to give the team a better chance to win... and increased his running.

First 7 starts: 34.5 attempts per game.   9.4 rushes per game
Last 8 starts: 23.75 attempts per game.   9.1 rushes per game (only decreased because of the last 4 games where he was dinged with the ankle injury which caused him to miss a game).  The 4 games before the ankle injury, he rushed 12 times per game on average.

 

And somehow, despite fewer attempts, he actually threw more INTs.   (5 over the last 8 games, 4 in the first 7.)

 

We can agree that the playoff game was a predictable outcome because Hurts didn't improve from the beginning of the season to the end of it.  They just hid him more as a passer in the second half of the season. 

No one declared he was great.

 

In the first 7 games, the only time that Siri remembered to run the ball was in the first game, when Sanders had 15 touches and Gainwell has 9.

In the next 6 games, the RB ran the ball an average of 12 times a game.

After that, the RBs ran the ball an average of 26 times a game, including 36 times against the Jets and 25 times against the Cowboys, both games that Minshew started.

It seems to be forgotten that during that first half of the year, everyone was screaming at Siri to run the ball and that was why they were losing. Everyone from this board to the radio shock jocks, to the beat reporters, everyone was yelling that he was not running the ball enough. He finally started to run the ball against the Lions. When that happened, they started to win more games and their penalties per game went down tremendously. He did what every young coach that was under pressure would do, he found a winning formula and doubled down on it, flipping the pendulum from one side to the other. It also helped that they were playing terrible teams at the end and all it did was confirm what he thought was their formula. But as with anything in football, if you commit heavily to one thing, there will always be a team that can take it away, which is what happened with the playoff game.

None of this was an indictment on Hurts that everyone wants to make it out to be. It was a young coach trying to figure out a way to win games.

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

the first 5 or 6 games was a new coach, trying to run his style offense *THINKING* he had a professional quarterback

His offense looked fun to watch. Then we went run first and had better results so it never came back. 

53 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I agree with this, but I also have to say Mac Jones is extremely overrated. 

He was babied(which is fine) and he had a dumb down playbook(again that's fine) and had to make basic reads and basic throws(again, fine for a rookie)

But to even think Mac Jones is good(yet) or in the the top 10 is laughable. 

You put Baker Mayfield in that basic, dumbed down, run first offense He'd put up better numbers. 

I haven't seen anybody declare Jones to be a top 10 QB.....only that he's better than Hurts...so unless you rank Hurts at 11....

15 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/21/howie-roseman-shares-an-intriguing-philosophy-about-following-trends-in-team-building/

“[Y]ou have to make a decision on what your priorities are on building the team, whether you’re going to kind of go with the flow or you’re going to kind of figure out what is the most important thing for your team and if there’s some value in being different and figuring out what now is kind of the next area,” Roseman told reporters. "I think we spent a lot of time, Coach [Nick Sirianni] and I talk about this all the time, if we’re going to be the same as everyone else, we’re probably going to finish in the middle of the pack. Sometimes you have to take risks and you have to stand out there and do something different than everyone else. So that doesn’t mean that there aren’t right decisions to make at that position. But at the same time, if you’re doing the same thing that everyone else is doing, you’re probably a step late.”

When I look at positional spending under the cap, the Eagles are listed in Spotrac as a total of $194.6M allocated thus far, broken down by positional group:

DL -- $63.7M (1st) -- 32.7% of cap

OL -- $57.0M (1st) -- 29.3%

DB -- $25.1M (26th) -- 12.9%

WR -- $15.6M (23rd) -- 8.0%

LB -- $8.8M (30th) -- 4.5%

TE -- $7.1M (24th) -- 3.6%

K/P/LS -- $7.0M (14th) -- 3.6%

RB -- $5.2M (32nd) -- 2.7%

QB -- $5.0M (30th) -- 2.7%

 

The league rankings are not complete because it doesn't show the final $ allocation yet (49ers are $219.7M while HOU is only $156.3M so far)

Not too many surprises -- the Eagles spend 62% (5/8) of their cap in the trenches.  When Goedert's contract kicks in, the TE number will rise quite a bit.  RB and LB take up very little of their spending.  Something will have to give when the Eagles find a QB outside of their rookie contracts, and the WR spending will go up quite a bit if/when they bring a veteran presence in.   

 

19 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

None of this was an indictment on Hurts that everyone wants to make it out to be. It was a young coach trying to figure out a way to win games.

It is very much an indictment on Hurts, in a passing league, they had to limit the QB passing to win.

38 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/04/21/howie-roseman-shares-an-intriguing-philosophy-about-following-trends-in-team-building/

“[Y]ou have to make a decision on what your priorities are on building the team, whether you’re going to kind of go with the flow or you’re going to kind of figure out what is the most important thing for your team and if there’s some value in being different and figuring out what now is kind of the next area,” Roseman told reporters. "I think we spent a lot of time, Coach [Nick Sirianni] and I talk about this all the time, if we’re going to be the same as everyone else, we’re probably going to finish in the middle of the pack. Sometimes you have to take risks and you have to stand out there and do something different than everyone else. So that doesn’t mean that there aren’t right decisions to make at that position. But at the same time, if you’re doing the same thing that everyone else is doing, you’re probably a step late.”

Well, Howie likes to show that he is smarter than anyone else in the room.  (Too bad that is often proven incorrect.)

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Gross.   I know I'm an anachronist on many of these things, but if you are 7'2" and 280+lbs... and they haven't got anyone close to matching you... you have to win in the paint on that.   Maybe you get fouled (though referees often will just swallow their whistle both ways in that situation, as we saw with the mugging Harris took on the rebound at the end of regulation), but you should be able to bully your way closer to the hoop, and you get a better opportunity for a put back as well.  I know why guards play the perimeter game in that situation... but your center shouldn't be doing that if he's your choice for the last shot.   You play with the ball up top until around 8-10 seconds left.  Then you throw it in to him and let him go to work.  Keep the perimeter covered with shooters, in set positions that he knows he can dump the ball out to for a quick 3 without having to 'see' them... and take your chances.

Yup. We talked about this on the sixers thread last night. You either want Embiid in the post and let him do his work because he gets fouled a lot so you may go to the line or he just is so big that it’s a higher percentage shot. If not that I want maxey with the ball in his hands around 8-9 seconds and allowing him to try to penetrate. With his speed he’s likely to get by the first defender and if Toronto rotated it will send Toronto scrambling on defense. Even if Toronto doesn’t have someone rotate to him after the initial blow by,  he likely gets a really good look at a floater which is something he excels at. If it does create scrambling chaos for Toronto then it likely pulls a defender away and you can likely get a pass to an open look and with an extra pass potentially a better look for embiid or potential one on one situation for him at that point with it being harder to double as Toronto is out of position. Just letting embiid sit on the perimeter with the ball in his hands with 6-7 seconds left and then asking him to break down his defender as it usually winds up just being a contested 3 and it’s a better percentage shot with  embiid in the post or allowing maxey to use his speed and athleticism that could send Toronto completely out of position. 

London break down 

 

13 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

His offense looked fun to watch. Then we went run first and had better results so it never came back. 

And that was the problem.

If the schedule was reversed and the Eagles played these terrible teams first and the better teams later, he probably would have figured out a better balance for his offense while still winning games, which would have been better for them in the long run.

Since they were 2-5 by the time they played the Lions, they found that going run-heavy worked and they never looked back.

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

It is very much an indictment on Hurts, in a passing league, they had to limit the QB passing to win.

Except if you look at the "context" of what happened, you would actually see that it was not.

6 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

And that was the problem.

If the schedule was reversed and the Eagles played these terrible teams first and the better teams later, he probably would have figured out a better balance for his offense while still winning games, which would have been better for them in the long run.

Since they were 2-5 by the time they played the Lions, they found that going run-heavy worked and they never looked back.

Except if you look at the "context" of what happened, you would actually see that it was not.

The "context" is Hurts has a ceiling of being an average passer, and a deadly runner. I'd much rather have the reverse.

5 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

The "context" is Hurts has a ceiling of being an average passer, and a deadly runner. I'd much rather have the reverse.

See what I mean @Iggles_Phan - context doesn't matter here. It can be plainly laid out as a reason why something is one way and it always gets twisted back to the original, played-out tropes.

What matters is personal opinions, comfort in commonality, and bias.

35 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

For the lawyers out there:

I recently defended a colleague in an administrative hearing conducted by my university. The university hired a "judge' to oversee the proceedings and to render a final judgement. I later found out through FOMA requests that our diversity officer (read prosecutor) used to work in the same law office as the "judge" and that they are still friends. Part of my defense strategy was to seek a summary dismissal because the diversity officer had exhibited bias against my colleague in violation of Title IX. I tried to outline the evidence of bias in my opening statement, but I was cut off by the "judge" before I could finish. I was not offended during the course of the hearing  the opportunity to present the evidence of bias. At no time did the diversity officer or the judge disclose to us their prior relationship.

Is this a violation of legal ethics?

Thanks.

I am assuming this is a Title IX procedure and I don't know anything about the rules for these proceedings and who gets to select the neutral or whether they just employees of the university. 

Are they lawyers?  I think rules for who can qualify as an arbitrator vary from state to state.  Typically there is some sort of training program but not necessarily a formal certification.  I don't think states have adopted formal ethical rules for arbitrators. So the rules that govern their behavior are the rules that govern the profession.  Disclosing a friendship isn't required.   I don't think the friendship with diversity officer is a conflict. Typically a conflict would arise if the judge had materially participated representing the University in the same matter.   If he or she previously was counsel for the university during the time this claim was being pursued that may be a disclosure that he/she should have made. 

I am unclear as to how the bias of the diversity officer impacts the evidence of misconduct by your colleague? 

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Context is Hurts stinks as a thrower and NS kept trying to do it in the first 5-7 games. Weird that a passing coach, in a passing league, wanted to pass the ball.

Once NS realized his QB couldn't throw and couldn't read a defense he took the ball out of his hands and HAD TO STICK with a run heavy game

Yeah, it couldn't be a young coach that was 2-5, was consistently badgered about not running the ball at all, who then started to run the ball and was winning so he double down on it.

There is NO way in the world that is what happened. It is all about Hurts.

So tell me this - why did he run the ball 61 times in 2 games when Minshew was playing?

3 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

Yeah, it couldn't be a young coach that was 2-5, was consistently badgered about not running the ball at all, who then started to run the ball and was winning so he double down on it.

There is NO way in the world that is what happened. It is all about Hurts.

So tell me this - why did he run the ball 61 times in 2 games when Minshew was playing?

At the time the team was winning despite Hurts and the offense was running a specific way. Why would they completely change the play calling for a game in the middle of a good stretch and a throwaway game at the end of the year? 

It's really not that hard to figure out.

5 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

Yeah, it couldn't be a young coach that was 2-5, was consistently badgered about not running the ball at all, who then started to run the ball and was winning so he double down on it.

There is NO way in the world that is what happened. It is all about Hurts.

So tell me this - why did he run the ball 61 times in 2 games when Minshew was playing?

Typically, you'd expect to see some improvement from your young QB over the course of the season, as it relates to passing the ball. Go look at Hurts throw chart for the playoff game. It's nearly identical to his career norms, and even further back a near carbon copy of his college passing chart. It shows, and the Bucs played it perfectly, that he can't and won't use the entire field. Also, I've never seen an opposing d-co-ordinator say mid-game that the QB can't read the defense. It hasn't changed since he was at Alabama, and if you have a QB that can't throw with anticipation, and doesn't use 2/3rds of the field....what the hell do you have?