7 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think this is where teams may have a different view than the internet draft experts on a player.  I could definitely see Elam going higher than expected just based on the position and his testing.  I would be fine with him at 18 or even 15 if that's where they thought he was valued.  I think he's likely to be an above average starter which is good value in that range.  

I think most teams have him in the top 5 CB's. Those being Elam, Sauce, Stingley, Booth, McDuffie. Sauce is the clearcut top consensus choice. Stingley most likely #2. After that, the other 3 could go in any order. I wouldn't be angry if they took Elam at 18. He's more raw technique wise, but he has length nobody other than Sauce has. Plusses and minuses.

33 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Sign me up, Lurie:

 

like it.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So disrespectful of the training camp hero.

33 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I like Elam, but not at 18. Trade down into the 20's to pick up another 3rd and take him there? Definitely.

As the last of his kind, I wouldnt get cute. If it works out you feel great. But if hes gone and you have to settle for someone lacking that length, then you feel like you missed out. 

Honest NFL tweeted that the eagles were looking for length and liked Booth and Elam. So if hes their guy, take him. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

As the last of his kind, I wouldnt get cute. If it works out you feel great. But if hes gone and you have to settle for someone lacking that length, then you feel like you missed out. 

Honest NFL tweeted that the eagles were looking for length and liked Booth and Elam. So if hes their guy, take him. 

Yeah, I just prefer Booth. If Sauce, Stingley and Booth are gone, Elam would be my 4th.

 I see some really like  Phillips 
 

I wouldn’t touch Kyle Phillips before round 5 or 6 , slow , no length  , no explosion inconsistent  , slot receiver .

1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

Yeah, I just prefer Booth. If Sauce, Stingley and Booth are gone, Elam would be my 4th.

I think I prefer booth too. But hes almost always gone in the mocks. And once he, stingley, and Gardner are all gone, youre getting length combined with 4.3 speed with Elam, or youre not getting length at all. So, it becomes too important imo, if they really are valuing that length, to try to move down and risk missing out. 

 

2 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I think most teams have him in the top 5 CB's. Those being Elam, Sauce, Stingley, Booth, McDuffie. Sauce is the clearcut top consensus choice. Stingley most likely #2. After that, the other 3 could go in any order. I wouldn't be angry if they took Elam at 18. He's more raw technique wise, but he has length nobody other than Sauce has. Plusses and minuses.

Draft Elam and Kerby. We'll have the longest arms in the land.

5 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

 I see some really like  Phillips 
 

I wouldn’t touch Kyle Phillips before round 5 or 6 , slow , no length  , no explosion inconsistent  , slot receiver .

everyone knows he is a slot WR. But he will still be one of the best WRs in this entire draft class and have immediate success. He is top 2 or 3 route runner in the class, up there with Olave. Has excellent hands. Has a knack for making big plays. Can run after the catch. And is an excellent blocker which is very important in the slot. Plus, the eagles covet that in their WRs. 

He will never be an X, but Id actually say he could survive a few games there if needed to fill in for injury because his releases are so good. 

3 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Alabama doesn’t produce great nfl qbs because great nfl qbs are very hard to come by.  
 

My data here may not be perfect, as I am just going off memory, but Alabama has 3 starting qbs in the nfl right now (Jones, Tua, Hurts).  With Mayfield out of a job, that makes Alabama the only school with more than one starting qb in the nfl. 
 

But wait!  That makes the other school Oklahoma, where Hurts ALSO started.

So Hurts literally played for the two schools with the two most prolific offenses with the two best coaches that put up the most nfl qbs with the most first round picks.

And Hurts played for both of them.  And he still can’t read a defense or release the football with half decent mechanics.  There is a fundamental problem with the player if he’s a project with a learning curve after coming out of those two programs.

Uh, maybe they just get to recruit better players than most college teams?

I think Gordon could go late rd 1 . McCreary should go rd 1 , but I expect him to go rd 2

Chase Lucas extremely underrated . I think he goes sooner than the consensus thinks .

Just now, Original Sin said:

 I see some really like  Phillips 
 

I wouldn’t touch Kyle Phillips before round 5 or 6 , slow , no length  , no explosion inconsistent  , slot receiver .

Of course he's a slot receiver. He's arguably the best one in the draft. 5'11" 190 is above average size for a slot guy. He's also a nice punt returner, another role we lack skill at. Your hot takes are more hot turds.

1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

Of course he's a slot receiver. He's arguably the best one in the draft. 5'11" 190 is above average size for a slot guy. He's also a nice punt returner, another role we lack skill at. Your hot takes are more hot turds.

Slow, no explosion...kind of sounds like someone he has been touting for a month on here as the best WR in the draft

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

I think Gordon could go late rd 1 . McCreary should go rd 1 , but I expect him to go rd 2

Chase Lucas extremely underrated . I think he goes sooner than the consensus thinks .

McCreary has undraftable measurements. He shouldnt go in round 1. I wouldnt be surprised to see him fall even below round 2. 

If the Eagles are still rebuilding, Howie is going to emphasize BPA and long-term fit than whether a pick will start as a rookie.

I'm amused at all the people who "know"who the Eagles will take.

At #15 and #18, I doubt Howie has a clue right now, he probably has about 5 players he expects to be on the board at that point, but he doesn't know which ones of that five will go higher, who above them will slip, and what trade offers people will make.

He also has a lot of later round picks plus Dillard he can use to make deals.

Fortunately, only one more week of weeding through mock drafts.

2 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Of course he's a slot receiver. He's arguably the best one in the draft. 5'11" 190 is above average size for a slot guy. He's also a nice punt returner, another role we lack skill at. Your hot takes are more hot turds.

its long been known Beast knows a ton of college players but can not evaluate

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

everyone knows he is a slot WR. But he will still be one of the best WRs in this entire draft class and have immediate success. He is top 2 or 3 route runner in the class, up there with Olave. Has excellent hands. Has a knack for making big plays. Can run after the catch. And is an excellent blocker which is very important in the slot. Plus, the eagles covet that in their WRs. 

He will never be an X, but Id actually say he could survive a few games there if needed to fill in for injury because his releases are so good. 

He is Adam Humphries  ,  and he drops more than he should , no speed no explosion , no catch radius 5 th rd pick .

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

He is Adam Humphries  ,  and he drops more than he should , no speed no explosion , no catch radius 5 th rd pick .

we will see. 

my 3 favorite WRs for the eagles are Pickens, Pierce, and Phillips. 

Route running, hands, and blocking.  2 with great speed and size. The other with return skills.

This will be an interesting video. Ive really paid next to no attention to any OL in this draft, and dont intend to. So this will be a nice crash course.

 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

This will be an interesting video. Ive really paid next to no attention to any OL in this draft, and dont intend to. So this will be a nice crash course.

 

I'm going to start halfway through because I hope they wait until day 3 to draft some gems that Stoutland identifies and grooms

26 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

So disrespectful of the training camp hero.

Training camp?!?!

He was so good he was acknowledged by Tom Brady

 

Not a big fan of Walters but still

The Pickens' interview was horrible," said a NFC director of player personnel. "He's barely alive on our board and still could get dropped off."

A few other team sources said the character evaluation for Pickens was "terrible." While Pickens produced some good tape in 2020 and has a legit combination of size and speed, he tore his ACL in the spring of 2021. That caused him to miss the vast majority of the 2021 season except for a few games to close out the season.

"He could go lower, but the third round is probably the most viable for Pickens," said an AFC director of college scouting.

Given the medical red flags to go with the major character concerns, Pickens could be in store for a draft-day slide.

5 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Not a big fan of Walters but still

The Pickens' interview was horrible," said a NFC director of player personnel. "He's barely alive on our board and still could get dropped off."

A few other team sources said the character evaluation for Pickens was "terrible." While Pickens produced some good tape in 2020 and has a legit combination of size and speed, he tore his ACL in the spring of 2021. That caused him to miss the vast majority of the 2021 season except for a few games to close out the season.

"He could go lower, but the third round is probably the most viable for Pickens," said an AFC director of college scouting.

Given the medical red flags to go with the major character concerns, Pickens could be in store for a draft-day slide.

That’s the concern, and makes sense why there has been little buzz with him. He might be a little crazy.