9 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Williams demolished the SEC, Reagor underachieved in the Big 12. Apples to oranges.

Sounds like the 2020 draft, replace Williams with Jefferson.  Dominating in the SEC is the top of the mountain in college football.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I was with you all the way until the bold....

I realize it’s a short sighted thing and probably not a good long term investment, but life is short, tomorrow is never promised, and I want to at least want to have something to watch for this coming season. 

27 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

2 options - Choose one

Option 1 - Eagles give up 18 and 51 to get to 9, 10, or 11?  Then still have 15

Option 2 - Trade 15 and 83 to get up to around 11?  Then still have 18

Which one you taking?

Option 2 unless only option one gives us Sauce.

10 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Nonsense. I just don’t see a player worthy of moving up for in this draft. But Howie likes to trade. Only Belichek and the Cheatriots trade more on draft day than Howie. Of course, part of BB’s trades are disposing of misses he makes in the draft. 

I think there are some players that are worthy of a move for the team but not into the top 10.  Thibodeux, Jermaine Johnson, Hamilton and Sauce Gardner are all worthy of a trade up but I don't think Hamilton has the positional value.  I also think there are a bunch of good prospects in the 2nd round at safety although part of me would not mind them double dipping at the position.  Stingley may also be worthy of a move up from 15 depending on what the team thinks of the other prospects at the position.  I certainly prefer Stingley to McDuffie. I think a case can be made for Jordan Davis but I think that's a projection for him.  

I will lose my crap if they trade up for Drake London

 

8 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I will lose my crap if they trade up for Drake London

Amber Heard style?

15 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I will lose my crap if they trade up for Drake London

I could more likely see Howie using #101 to trade up in the 2nd round from #51 to early 40s for Pickens.  

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Drafting Stingley at #3 overall just to have him sit in Cover 2 all game🤮

1 hour ago, garingovt2000 said:

2 options - Choose one

Option 1 - Eagles give up 18 and 51 to get to 9, 10, or 11?  Then still have 15

Option 2 - Trade 15 and 83 to get up to around 11?  Then still have 18

Which one you taking?

 

Neither Id rather trade down and get another pick  rather than trade up.

I think theres going to be some comparable players that will be available in round 2 and 3

1 hour ago, Saltpeter said:

Williams demolished the SEC, Reagor underachieved in the Big 12. Apples to oranges.

 

I'm not talking about Reagor.  I'm talking NFL wide.  The only WR drafted in the first round for speed that I can recall ever actually being worth it in the NFL was Waddle last year.  Even then Miami uses him almost entirely for quick passes right near the LOS.  very other speed WR that teams have taken shots on in previous drafts have not panned out as worth it. 

It’s almost 50/50 man vs zone in the NFL . KC played the most man at 63% , next was the Falcons at 49% 

so you need to be more than just a zone only or man only DB 

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I'm not talking about Reagor.  I'm talking NFL wide.  The only WR drafted in the first round for speed that I can recall ever actually being worth it in the NFL was Waddle last year.  Even then Miami uses him almost entirely for quick passes right near the LOS.  very other speed WR that teams have taken shots on in previous drafts have not panned out as worth it. 

Ruggs on field was looking pretty good. 

28 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Amber Heard style?

I think that's now known as an "Amber Turd".

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Ruggs on field was looking pretty good. 

 

Was he though? Drafted 12th overall and first WR taken in that stacked WR draft. 

2020: 26 rec, 452 yards and 2 TDs

2021: 24 rec, 469 yards and 2 TDs

 

That isn't worth the 12th overall pick. 

1 hour ago, blindside said:

I realize it’s a short sighted thing and probably not a good long term investment, but life is short, tomorrow is never promised, and I want to at least want to have something to watch for this coming season. 

I also have no desire to watch a defense where we were historically bad against the pass on top of being 31st in sacks. The defense is on its last limb with our key players getting old so it's time to restock. Unless if we want to move forward with the DL taking up 30%+ of the cap while being stockpiled with aging players who aren't producing as well anymore.

9 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I'm not talking about Reagor.  I'm talking NFL wide.  The only WR drafted in the first round for speed that I can recall ever actually being worth it in the NFL was Waddle last year.  Even then Miami uses him almost entirely for quick passes right near the LOS.  very other speed WR that teams have taken shots on in previous drafts have not panned out as worth it. 

D.Smith

21 minutes ago, What The F said:

D.Smith

 

DeVonta Smith isn't a speed WR.  He ran a 4.4 which isn't anything extravagant.  He's a technician with his route running and elite level hand eye coordination/reaction time. 

2 minutes ago, bitbased said:

I also have no desire to watch a defense where we were historically bad against the pass on top of being 31st in sacks. The defense is on its last limb with our key players getting old so it's time to restock. Unless if we want to move forward with the DL taking up 30%+ of the cap while being stockpiled with aging players who aren't producing as well anymore.

Yup other than sweat the rest are old and in decline and sweat is no more than a situational pass rusher forced into a starting role.

Need some fresh blood.

Is there a top-50 player this year with more draft grade disparity than Garrett Wilson? He's ranked top-5 on some boards, in the late teens/20s on others.

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Is there a top-50 player this year with more draft grade disparity than Garrett Wilson? He's ranked top-5 on some boards, in the late teens/20s on others.

Seems there are a bunch this year, this draft will be weird, probably be guys that some teams have a 3rd round grade on that go in the first and other teams may have 1st round grades on guys that go in the 3rd🤷‍♂️

4 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Is there a top-50 player this year with more draft grade disparity than Garrett Wilson? He's ranked top-5 on some boards, in the late teens/20s on others.

Outside the top 10 players that's kind of the epitome of this draft. Seems like a lot of players you can give them an average and give them (at least) +/- 15 spots of where they're actually going to be picked.

Is Daxton Hill going to be a CB or S in the NFL?  I see many draft boards have him and Pitre as CB and not S

19 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Devonta Smith isn't a speed WR.  He ran a 4.4 which isn't anything extravagant.  He's a technician with his route running and elite level hand eye coordination/reaction time. 

Did he? I don't think he ever ran a timed 40.