18 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Hey I'm not saying reagor is any good, he looks like a lazy piece of trash half assing it across the field, he's got zero urgency or suddenness.

Yet go back to his college tape and he was often the fastest guy in the field and the most explosive, he has shown very little of that since being drafted, maybe or two big plays and even then somehow he doesn't look fast then either🤷‍♂️

I've got a sliver of hope that reagor can some how turn it around but it's like the tiniest little sliver.

 

I think of all the Eagles draft busts of the new millennium, Reagor might piss me off the most. And that's not even considering passing on Jefferson.

Freddie Mitchell was annoying, but he could play a liiiittle bit. McDougle got shot. Danny Watkins didn't love football, but he wasn't an A-hole about it. Marcus Smith wasn't good at football, but he wasn't an A-hole about it. Dillard got beat out by a freak athlete, but he can play. There were a lot of replaceable picks throughout the years (Barnett, Bunkley, etc.), but they all could play.

But Reagor is proudly terrible. He acts like we are all morons that don't know what we're watching. We're the "noise" that this entitled kid has to sift through to be successful. Getting lapped by a 6th round pick didn't change his approach. I doubt the Eagles aggressively targeting starting WRs will either.

Cut him.

I look really forward to the Phillies, eagles and sixers combining their powers like those Captain Planet kids to ruin my Thursday evening. 

T

11 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Eagles draft Ridder/Corral and a C

Sixers give up a big 2nd half lead.

Phillies.....I'll allow you to pick your poison.  

FYP

16 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I'm still curious about this elusive Reachor college tape, I heard about.  

Just go smoke a joint brah, then you'll "see it"

16 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I think of all the Eagles draft busts of the new millennium, Reagor might piss me off the most. And that's not even considering passing on Jefferson.

Freddie Mitchell was annoying, but he could play a liiiittle bit. McDougle got shot. Danny Watkins didn't love football, but he wasn't an A-hole about it. Marcus Smith wasn't good at football, but he wasn't an A-hole about it. Dillard got beat out by a freak athlete, but he can play. There were a lot of replaceable picks throughout the years (Barnett, Bunkley, etc.), but they all could play.

But Reagor is proudly terrible. He acts like we are all morons that don't know what we're watching. We're the "noise" that this entitled kid has to sift through to be successful. Getting lapped by a 6th round pick didn't change his approach. I doubt the Eagles aggressively targeting starting WRs will either.

Cut him.

Yup, his dad acting like we're all idiots is annoying as well.

I'd like nothing more fot reagor and his dad to shut all of us up but I don't see it and reagor will just go down as another 1st round bust and as you say fans hate not just because he sucks at football 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  But what’s in that joint?  

I learned long ago to stop asking that question. Very freeing. 

17 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Eagles draft Pickett and a OT

Sixers give up a big 2nd half lead.

Phillies.....I'll allow you to pick your poison.  

 

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

We’re usually in lock step, but I don’t get the Pickett thing with you.  
 

I need a break.  It’s not you it’s ………no it’s you.    

Pickett thing ??? I am on team Ridder, and team Corral as the 2nd option. 

Sixers will end that series in Game 6.  They just assumed going home would be enough to win Game 5 and they collectively threw bricks.  They won't win their next series, but they'll finish off this one.

18 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

And I disagreed with your post about Reachor.  You got all huffy with your "are you a scout" response.  And now playing the victim when I clap back.  It's pretty simple.  Either toughen up, or put me on ignore or go away.  

But go on and rage on about how "angry" you think I am.  Please.....it's funny.  And no.  Not everyone is an idiot.  You should be proud.  

Ah there's the 4for4 for I know, I was wondering how long it would take for you to come out of your shell and start acting like you usually do.

Playing the victim?

I'm not a victim I'm a survivor of your relentlessly tiresome bs.

Non angry people don't feel the need to call others idiot 

Like I said you could use some chill, your a bit of a drama queen.

As for putting you on ignore, I did that remember, and you just couldn't figure out how to keep my name out of your mouth for half a second to everyone on the board, like some petty jaded girlfriend.

As for going away,I'm pretty sure it's a public board, at least last I checked, I often enjoy the conversation on this board and even some of the banter sometimes, as such I try to follow the rules and be respectful to other posters including you so the mods continue to let me make an ass of myself on this board.

Seeing as I've never been banned and you have multiple times id say I'm doing a fairly better job at that than you so like I said maybe chill out a bit, " sport" which by the way is one of your less creative passive aggressive nicknames, zero stars, wouldn't suggest👎

1 hour ago, Outlaw said:

Eagles get Davis at 15 and trade 18 for 26, 90, and a 2023 3rd and land Booth. I have all 5 QB's going in R1, 2 before our first pick.

I think that would be very good. Probably better than what Howie does. I am just curious about the Booth injury and surgery talk. I didn't read much about it. 

As a Raptors fan, already happy with the outcome. Pushed the Sixers around without our best player, got Siakam back on track in the playoffs and Scottie belonged. We're in good shape long-term. I still think the 76ers are winning the series. The 2 game break is enough for Embiid to not tire in Game 6.

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

As a Raptors fan, already happy with the outcome. Pushed the Sixers around without our best player, got Siakam back on track in the playoffs and Scottie belonged. We're in good shape long-term. I still think the 76ers are winning the series. The 2 game break is enough for Embiid to not tire in Game 6.

I had said 76ers would take it in six. They likely win Thursday. This series makes me miss the Board Man more than anything. With him, Raps likely coast to the conference finals and maybe beyond. 

I think people are overrating the value of Jordan Davis' athleticism.

100 times out of 100 in a vacuum you'd rather have an athletic player over an unathletic one. Having said that, of all the positions on the field, I don't think athleticism at DT is as important as other positions. EDGE, CB, Safety, LB... it's probably more important for literally every other position on defense.

If you could only have one trait from your DT that was exceptional, for me it would be raw power, not athleticism. Now maybe Davis ends up having that as well and he's a complete player. But I can't get by his lack of push and pressure up front in college. I think he has a lot of potential, but some people are penciling him in as this sure thing and I think he's less sure than Stingley is - a guy people think has some questions.

Still would much rather invest in EDGE if Eagles go DL.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think people are overrating the value of Jordan Davis' athleticism.

100 times out of 100 in a vacuum you'd rather have an athletic player over an unathletic one. Having said that, of all the positions on the field, I don't think athleticism at DT is as important as other positions. EDGE, CB, Safety, LB... it's probably more important for literally every other position on defense.

If you could only have one trait from your DT that was exceptional, for me it would be raw power, not athleticism. Now maybe Davis ends up having that as well and he's a complete player. But I can't get by his lack of push and pressure up front in college. I think he has a lot of potential, but some people are penciling him in as this sure thing and I think he's less sure than Stingley is - a guy people think has some questions.

Still would much rather invest in EDGE if Eagles go DL.

Lack of push and pressure up front in college?  Sorry, that is not how I saw it.  When I watched UGA I thought he was the most disruptive force, by far, and the other defenders benefited tremendously from what he was doing.  He is an absolute force in the middle of a defense.

Would be thrilled if somehow they end up with this guy.  He's one of the 10-12 highest likelihood of being a difference maker.  One of the few they may have a shot at, but may also require a slight trade up, perhaps offering one of their 3rds.  You have 3-4 top prospect OL, 3-4 great edge prospects, 2 top corners, a top prospect safety, a top prospect LB and this guy.  Huge range of opinions on all of the wide receiver prospects.

41 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

It was a panic reach.  No doubt.  
 

 

And it was Doug’s pick, BTW.  
 

 

 

 

JK.   Or am I?

I don't know if the pick was panicked.  I don't think they thought Lamb or Ruggs were going to fall to them. Howie wasn't caught unaware.  Howie possibly made a calculated decision based on who he thought it was best to appease.  Howie could have very well believed that Reagor's "speed" trumped what Jefferson provided but I do think he had at least buy in from Doug on the matter.  The decision was calculated and not a spur of the moment pick.  

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Oh.  You were loving on Pickett a few months ago.  I think.  

I thought he was the best of the bunch, now would much rather have Ridder, with Corral a close second.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 
 

 

 

 

Its so easy to get you going   Just pull the string   

 

 

That's what your mom said last night...

1 minute ago, John_C said:

Lack of push and pressure up front in college?  Sorry, that is not how I saw it.  When I watched UGA I thought he was the most disruptive force, by far, and the other defenders benefited tremendously from what he was doing.  He is an absolute force in the middle of a defense.

Would be thrilled if somehow they end up with this guy.  He's one of the 10-12 highest likelihood of being a difference maker.  One of the few they may have a shot at, but may also require a slight trade up, perhaps offering one of their 3rds.  You have 3-4 top prospect OL, 3-4 great edge prospects, 2 top corners, a top prospect safety, a top prospect LB and this guy.  Huge range of opinions on all of the wide receiver prospects.

But the sack and QB pressures production wasn't there. I've seen a lot of analysts explain that away with different contexts and maybe they'll end up being right. I'm not saying he won't be great. But we've all seen prospects in all sports have great measurables or athletic traits and they just don't produce at that elite level people expected.

It's not so much that I think Davis sucks, but of the guys you could potentially get at 15 or move up a bit for, not sure how he could be anyone's #1 guy.

43 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Eagles draft Pickett and a OT

Sixers give up a big 2nd half lead.

Phillies.....I'll allow you to pick your poison.  

Sixers have to get a lead first....

They pick 39/48. Could be an ideal trade partner if one of the safeties slip. 

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

That's what your mom said last night...

That is stupid.  Grow up.

15 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think people are overrating the value of Jordan Davis' athleticism.

100 times out of 100 in a vacuum you'd rather have an athletic player over an unathletic one. Having said that, of all the positions on the field, I don't think athleticism at DT is as important as other positions. EDGE, CB, Safety, LB... it's probably more important for literally every other position on defense.

If you could only have one trait from your DT that was exceptional, for me it would be raw power, not athleticism. Now maybe Davis ends up having that as well and he's a complete player. But I can't get by his lack of push and pressure up front in college. I think he has a lot of potential, but some people are penciling him in as this sure thing and I think he's less sure than Stingley is - a guy people think has some questions.

Still would much rather invest in EDGE if Eagles go DL.

Cosell was saying Davis is more a strength player than a power player and how he controls the space he's in rather than moves space, and I'd never really thought about the difference between power and strength in football before I always kind of lumped them together.

I guess what it comes down to is what one wants out of ones DT in ones Defensive scheme, does want him to control gaps and occupy space then break off that controlled space and make a tackle or does one want a guy who moves space, pushes or collapses the pocket, ideally it would be nice to have both, but guys that can do both at a high level are few and far between 

I think Davis can control space and multiple gaps at an elite level, I'm not sure he has the power of say a guy like vita vae to collapse the pocket as well.

I'm also not sure what Gannon is exactly looking for in his defense or even if it's clear what kind of defense he's going to run.

There's talk about a 5-2 hybrid front which with addition of Reddick would make sense others have said a 4 man over Front or a 34 hybrid , so who knows,I'm not well versed enough in the intricacies of defensive front to make enough of an educated guess if what the heck Gannon is thinking 

On tape in college though Davis was a big reason teams couldn't run in Georgia, he was just an immovable force and I think he can be that in the pros but as said but sure that's what Gannon is looking for maybe he wants a guy that moves more forward more than a guy that doesn't move backwards 🤷‍♂️

Starting to get a feeling that the Eagles end up with players not commonly discussed like Zion and Skyy Moore. A real wrench throw by Howie.