Maybe, I still have the high from yesterday's game, but I say if you are going to go for a QB in the draft, go for the high ceiling QB.

Pickett is good, but he doesn't have close to the elite talents that we saw yesterday, he's a Dak/Carr level player in a Mahomes/Allen league.

So either go for an elite passing talent like Strong or an elite dual threat talent like Ridder. Both need work, but that's why you have coaches.

QBs are a 50/50 proposition anyways, might as well aim high.

5 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Maybe, I still have the high from yesterday's game, but I say if you are going to go for a QB in the draft, go for the high ceiling QB.

Pickett is good, but he doesn't have close to the elite talents that we saw yesterday, he's a Dak/Carr level player in a Mahomes/Allen league.

So either go for an elite passing talent like Strong or an elite dual threat talent like Ridder. Both need work, but that's why you have coaches.

QBs are a 50/50 proposition anyways, might as well aim high.

People will say that the QBs aren't worth drafting this year...but if you don't have a QB, especially after watching yesterday, you'll feel compelled to do it. 

43 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

I agree. If it’s ever changed the only thing I’d like considered would be a continuation of 4th quarter. If it’s 2nd and 9 at your own 26 yard line, that’s where OT starts. First score wins, that’s why it’s called sudden death. 

That would eliminate the urgency on a final drive with the game tied.   Terrible idea.  

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

People will say that the QBs aren't worth drafting this year...but if you don't have a QB, especially after watching yesterday, you'll feel compelled to do it. 

Which is why QBs are always overdrafted come every April.

12 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Maybe, I still have the high from yesterday's game, but I say if you are going to go for a QB in the draft, go for the high ceiling QB.

Pickett is good, but he doesn't have close to the elite talents that we saw yesterday, he's a Dak/Carr level player in a Mahomes/Allen league.

So either go for an elite passing talent like Strong or an elite dual threat talent like Ridder. Both need work, but that's why you have coaches.

QBs are a 50/50 proposition anyways, might as well aim high.

I agree. Ridder to me has a high ceiling. Has the size, arm, and athletic ability. Could use some help with consistency. Strong’s three previous knee surgeries and lack of ability to do much once a play breaks down other than throw it away or take a sack worries me. 

For every Allen there is 9 Trubisky‘s. 

Watching Allen made me bitter about 2018-2020

9 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Wow that’s an awesome quote 

It really is.  Hurts is going to steal it and bring it out when most needed next year when they face the winless Giants in week 15.

Now we’re so desperate for a QB there are folks that think Malik Willis is a serious prospect?  Wow

The guy played at Liberty and still ran the ball 200 times this season.  If he wont go through progressions playing against Campbell, Troy and ULM, how does he translate to the NFL as anything but a one read and dash QB?  We already have that.

For those who have watched Pickett (I have not), what’s the difference between him and Bridgewater? 

They sound awfully similar. 

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

It really is.  Hurts is going to steal it and bring it out when most needed next year when they face the winless Giants in week 15.

"When it’s freaky, be the SuperFreak.”

Think we’ve found Hurts’ nickname.

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Now we’re so desperate for a QB there are folks that think Malik Willis is a serious prospect?  Wow

The guy played at Liberty and still ran the ball 200 times this season.  If he wont go through progressions playing against Campbell, Troy and ULM, how does he translate to the NFL as anything but a one read and dash QB?  We already have that.

I agree, I want no part of Willis. Let some other team overdraft him. 

16 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Watching Allen made me bitter about 2018-2020

He’s what we hoped Carson would be but I think Carson has/had different hopes and dreams for his life (which is okay).

Interesting how intrigued this board is with Josh Allen now (rightfully so) but I wish we could go back and read how people here saw him at the end of 2018 and 2019.

36 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I agree. Ridder to me has a high ceiling. Has the size, arm, and athletic ability. Could use some help with consistency. Strong’s three previous knee surgeries and lack of ability to do much once a play breaks down other than throw it away or take a sack worries me. 

That's not necessarily a bad outcome compared to the careless turnover.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's not necessarily a bad outcome compared to the careless turnover.

I’m saying unlike most QBs nowadays, he has zero ability to tuck it and pick up a few yards. I agree obviously that a throwaway is obviously better than a turnover or sack. 

8 minutes ago, Thrive said:

He’s what we hoped Carson would be but I think Carson has/had different hopes and dreams for his life (which is okay).

Interesting how intrigued this board is with Josh Allen now (rightfully so) but I wish we could go back and read how people here saw him at the end of 2018 and 2019.

Loved him at Wyoming. Never even entered my mind as an Eagles possibility or need of course. 

So after this weekends Display of top level QB play.   There are 3 types of Eagle fans today

• Those that have always believed that the majority of SB's are won by teams with a TOP QB (a few outliers do exist -though are never able to repeat) and recognize Hurts will never be that guy
• Those who thought Hurts had a shot to develop into a top QB, but after watching this weekend have seen the light (have to wonder how many other games these guys were watching throughout the year? )
• Delusional fans who still think Hurts can develop into a top QB - (allowed to have their own opinion, no matter how wrong it may be)  

I have been stead fast in my belief - Give me Rodgers, WIlson or Watson.  Better odds of getting one of these guys, then hitting on drafting a QB prospect. Just will cost you more up front. 

If you cant get one of those, is Carr avail? If not might as well draft a QB prospect- You need to keep trying to get a top QB until you have one. Regardless of draft capiltal. Once you have a guy in your building you should be able to tell within his first year, if he has the ability to develop into a TOP QB or not. That doesn't mean he will (Carson Wentz as example), but he has to show you flashes he can possibly do so, becfore you hitch your wagon onto the guy for more than a year or two max.

 Hurts has NEVER shown me any flashes of being that guy. 

Those games were insane.... Just wow

What should be clear to the Eagles is how far away the team is from those winning those games.  The FO and Coaches should watch those games and understand that adding in a name QB for multiple high picks won't allow the team to compete in those games.  The roster is nowhere near good enough to win over multiple playoff games; not even close.  It should have been a chastening experience.

Can you imagine a DL of Barnett, Cox, Hargrave and Sweat competing in a NFC Divisional/Championship game? Get outta here.

You could also see McDermott comes from the AR tree of questionable calls to manage the clock.  Oh my days

6 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

So after this weekends Display of top level QB play.   There are 3 types of Eagle fans today

• Those that have always believed that the majority of SB's are won by teams with a TOP QB (a few outliers do exist -though are never able to repeat) and recognize Hurts will never be that guy
• Those who thought Hurts had a shot to develop into a top QB, but after watching this weekend have seen the light (have to wonder how many other games these guys were watching throughout the year? )
• Delusional fans who still think Hurts can develop into a top QB - (allowed to have their own opinion, no matter how wrong it may be)  

I have been stead fast in my belief - Give me Rodgers, WIlson or Watson.  Better odds of getting one of these guys, then hitting on drafting a QB prospect. Just will cost you more up front. 

If you cant get one of those, is Carr avail? If not might as well draft a QB prospect- You need to keep trying to get a top QB until you have one. Regardless of draft capiltal. Once you have a guy in your building you should be able to tell within his first year, if he has the ability to develop into a TOP QB or not. That doesn't mean he will (Carson Wentz as example), but he has to show you flashes he can possibly do so, becfore yoiu hitch your wagon on the guys for more than a year or two max.

 Hurts has NEVER shown me any flashes of being that guy. 

I think going all in or Wilson or Rodgers is short sighted. These guys are at the tail end of their careers. Watson would be the only guy I’d consider based on ability with his age being what it is. Would need a hell of a PR campaign and true remorse like Vick but we’ve done it before. Also should be the cheapest in terms of draft capital. 
 

Outside of that, keep trying lottery picks in the draft. Ridder is my guy this year. Has the most upside. Could be Josh Allen…or hot garbage. 

For those wondering if we should consider Carson Strong...

 

 

DL play still matters. Buffalo couldn't rush the passer on the road. KC couldn't rush the passer consistently without blitzing. 

If anything, this game shows that QB/OL/DL is the way to go. If you can't cover people, just beat the hell out of QBs so that they don't want to extend plays.

42 minutes ago, Thrive said:

He’s what we hoped Carson would be but I think Carson has/had different hopes and dreams for his life (which is okay).

Interesting how intrigued this board is with Josh Allen now (rightfully so) but I wish we could go back and read how people here saw him at the end of 2018 and 2019.

I was one of the skeptics. I wasn't sure he'd ever get there. We've seen raw, freak arm talents come and go and frustrate fans/coaches in between.

I still have slight reservations about Allen long-term. Almost every Allen game I watch (yes, this is anecdotal), he's still taking some rough hits.

But his combination of competitiveness, leadership, physical ability, AND skill is really something to behold.

42 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

For those who have watched Pickett (I have not), what’s the difference between him and Bridgewater? 

They sound awfully similar. 

Bridgewater could move pre leg injury. Pickett's closest stylistic comparables are Burrow, Goff and Cousins. Obviously there's a big gap there, 

16 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Those games were insane.... Just wow

What should be clear to the Eagles is how far away the team is from those winning those games.  The FO and Coaches should watch those games and understand that adding in a name QB for multiple high picks won't allow the team to compete in those games.  The roster is nowhere near good enough to win over multiple playoff games; not even close.  It should have been a chastening experience.

Can you imagine a DL of Barnett, Cox, Hargrave and Sweat competing in a NFC Divisional/Championship game? Get outta here.

You could also see McDermott comes from the AR tree of questionable calls to manage the clock.  Oh my days

Because defense was so important yesterday? I'm here to tell you that if we have a good quarterback we can compete. Imagine a guy that can throw and then think about Smith, Watkins, and Goedert.  We can be competitive with 1 good move. 

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I would be happy if we leave with a combination of 3 of any of the players below.  (These are realistic options without trading up)

CB Derek Stingley

LB Devin Lloyd

WR Jameson Williams

Edge David Ojabo

OG Kenyon Green

S Lewis Cine

CB Kaiir Elam

LB Nakobe Dean (not as high as other posters are on him)

CB Sauce

DT Jordan Davis 

 

I would be ecstatic with the following:

Ojabo

Williams

Stingley

 

Dean to me is not worth the first rounder. Davis also while a man mountain doesn’t really fit in 4i. IMO he’s gonna be a stud as NT for a 3-4. I’d add Booth to the list and Linderbaum in their stead. My ideal would be Ojabo, Sauce/Booth/Stingley, and Linderbaum/trade down for another first next year and maybe roll the dice on Ridder at bottom of 1st/top of 2nd.