27 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah, no ish.  Hurts sucks.  I have been beating the drum in here on that point, long before you and anyone for that matter.  Yet you said Jimmy G was "great" which is WRONG!!

 

That’s me.  Mr Hurts supporter.  I’m the leader of the Squirt for Hurts fan club.  🤡

 

Call me Nick Foles.  

Can't, defense only made 1 play in that game. That was a straight up shoot out.

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

I'm glad we got our Lombardi before all these young QBs emerged, sheesh.

I think about this all the time.

Wentz, pre-injury, was supposed to be that guy. 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

See...I was right.  It was Ryans as Mufasa!!!  Uh huhh..

 

I like Ryans as the answer.  Same number.  I win.  Next!

 

Wow from that angle that’s definitely Demeco - good catch.

11 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

as long as the "QB factory" isn't using the same nethods in picking a QB that they did when picking Hurts, then we might have a shot. But if the exact same guys are using the exact same methods of determining who to pick?    I'm not liking our chances. You have a better shot at winning the lottery on Wednesday. 

I still think he was drafted to be a Hill type of guy. It blew up in Howie's face. That said sadly Wentz wasn't the answer anymore either.

4 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

I'm glad we got our Lombardi before all these young QBs emerged, sheesh.

Feels so long ago already.

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Can't, defense only made 1 play in that game. That was a straight up shoot out.

They made several. 

McLeod's tackle on Brandin Cooks in the red zone when he tried to leap over him.  Huge defensive play.
Jenkins' hit on Brandin Cooks changed the game.
Strip sack.
Knocking away the Hail Mary.

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

I think about this all the time.

Wentz, pre-injury, was supposed to be that guy. 

In 2017, he was that guy.

27 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I thought Tom Brady did that already.  

Just a few times. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They made several. 

McLeod's tackle on Brandin Cooks in the red zone when he tried to leap over him.  Huge defensive play.
Jenkins' hit on Brandin Cooks changed the game.
Strip sack.
Knocking away the Hail Mary.

In 2017, he was that guy.

yup

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They made several. 

McLeod's tackle on Brandin Cooks in the red zone when he tried to leap over him.  Huge defensive play.
Jenkins' hit on Brandin Cooks changed the game.
Strip sack.
Knocking away the Hail Mary.

In 2017, he was that guy.

You are correct, was still a shoot out though.

12 minutes ago, greend said:

I still think he was drafted to be a Hill type of guy. It blew up in Howie's face. That said sadly Wentz wasn't the answer anymore either.

Yeah, as time goes by, the only redeeming part about the Hurts pick was that it expedited Wentz's departure.

At this point it's pretty clear, Wentz is not that guy anymore, but at least we got a 1st rd pick back before it was too late.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

A Hill type of guy or someone they were going to try and spin around and trade.  Those were my first two reactions the night we drafted him.  That and sheer rage....

You, me, just about every eagles fan I know, and Carson Wentz

Just now, greend said:

You are correct, was still a shoot out though.

No doubt.  But the defense made the plays that needed to be made.  That's what defense in the NFL is now.   Get the big stop when you need it most.  Eagles' defense did that in that game, despite giving up the yardage they did.  

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

Yeah, as time goes by the only redeeming part about the Hurts pick was that it expedited Wentz's departure.

At this point it's pretty clear, Wentz is not that guy anymore, but at least we got a 1st rd pick back before it was too late.

It took this year and the Colts for me to see that actually.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Does this mean we're pals again?

 were we ever?

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

In 2017, he was that guy.

Watching Wentz in 2017 was something else, it felt for a moment that we had the next great QB.

I thought we would dominate the NFL for the next decade with him at the helm.

35 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Man I love the random vague Eagle LB references...what a ride we've had over the last 20 years.  

 

Btw, I dont care if the Bills were the #1 defense all time.  Didnt matter with the coverage the coaches dialed up. That was the dumbest thing Ive ever seen in a big game, rushing 4 for no reason at all and leaving Kelce essentially 1 on 1.  Morons

 

Yup. ...most are talking about Allen and Mahomes and how elite they are but the defense called by both teams towards the end of the game was stupid.  Same with the Rams-TB game.

3 minutes ago, greend said:

It took this year and the Colts for me to see that actually.

I was out on him halfway through 2020, I had seen enough, but there was always that chance that being back with Reich and in a new lock-room would "fix" him. It didn't.

2 hours ago, greend said:

Explain if you don't mind.

Just saying if we can get younger and reduce the cap we could be in a position where our needs aren't as many year over year. My fear is that we bring in a QB and we're spending the next 4 years saying...."if only we had (Fill in the blank) to help our QB." I'd like to see our needs reduced first. A top tier QB that can lift an entire team up is rare and past performance is not always an indicator of future performance. I'd much rather look to build a team that helps any QB first and has the cap space available to fill in gaps and lock in good young players.

4 minutes ago, Thing3 said:

Just saying if we can get younger and reduce the cap we could be in a position where our needs aren't as many year over year. My fear is that we bring in a QB and we're spending the next 4 years saying...."if only we had (Fill in the blank) to help our QB." I'd like to see our needs reduced first. A top tier QB that can lift an entire team up is rare and past performance is not always an indicator of future performance. I'd much rather look to build a team that helps any QB first and has the cap space available to fill in gaps and lock in good young players.

And then draft a quarterback? So 2-3 years down the road? Just when all the cheap rookie deals are running out?  Then he takes 2 years to develop? And we're still in the same boat. 

2 minutes ago, greend said:

And then draft a quarterback? So 2-3 years down the road? Just when all the cheap rookie deals are running out?  Then he takes 2 years to develop? And we're still in the same boat. 

This. That methodology puts you in line for a vicious cycle. QB, LT, CB and DE are the only spots where I can support overspending the market a bit.

55 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah, no ish.  Hurts sucks.  I have been beating the drum in here on that point, long before you and anyone for that matter.  Yet you said Jimmy G was "great" which is WRONG!!

 

That’s me.  Mr Hurts supporter.  I’m the leader of the Squirt for Hurts fan club.  🤡

 

Call me Nick Foles.  

I like the gif.... it's like Hurts pretending not to be a running back....

3 minutes ago, greend said:

And then draft a quarterback? So 2-3 years down the road? Just when all the cheap rookie deals are running out?  Then he takes 2 years to develop? And we're still in the same boat. 

That's why reducing cap is so important. It allows you to lock up the good young players to favorable contracts that keep them here for the long term.

If Kelce retires do you think they go with Isaac Seumalo or draft someone early?  Many of Seumalo's draft profiles if I remember correctly had his best position as a C. 

3 minutes ago, Thing3 said:

That's why reducing cap is so important. It allows you to lock up the good young players to favorable contracts that keep them here for the long term.

Sorry but this is Howie's approach and it doesn't seem to work

2 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

If Kelce retires do you think they go with Isaac Seumalo or draft someone early?  Many of Seumalo's draft profiles if I remember correctly had his best position as a C. 

Seumalo, Dickerson and draft are all options. 

Assume we stick with Hurts and Kelce is back.  How would you realistically fix the offense?  I'm guessing these are the  spots we most need upgrades (RG, WR 2 and 4, RB2 and 3 (maybe 1, 2, and 3). TE 2.  Who would you realistically like to put in those spots via FA and Draft picks

LT - Mailata 
LG - Dickerson 
C - Kelce 
RG - ?
RT - Lane Johnson 

WR 1 - Smith
WR 2 -  ?
WR 3 - Quez 
WR 4 -  ?

TE 1 - Goedert
TE 2 - ?

RB 1 - Sanders
RB2 - ?
RB 3 - ?

1 minute ago, garingovt2000 said:

Assume we stick with Hurts and Kelce is back.  How would you realistically fix the offense?  I'm guessing these are the  spots we most need upgrades (RG, WR 2 and 4, RB2 and 3 (maybe 1, 2, and 3). TE 2.  Who would you realistically like to put in those spots via FA and Draft picks

LT - Mailata 
LG - Dickerson 
C - Kelce 
RG - ?
RT - Lane Johnson 

WR 1 - Smith
WR 2 -  ?
WR 3 - Quez 
WR 4 -  ?

TE 1 - Goedert
TE 2 - ?

RB 1 - Sanders
RB2 - ?
RB 3 - ?

Stopped reading there.