18 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not many.  I do vaguely recall him playing center more than once.  Albeit,  maybe it was only twice. 

My recollection is that he never played well in those opportunities, which was disappointing since that was supposed to be a great spot for him. 

On the other hand,  we often see players on the OL come in off the bench and look bad for the first few series, or even entire game.. And they quickly settle in and provide steady solid play. Maybe Seumalo never had long enough there to really evaluate. 

I think he did have to fill in for some plays at C after Kelce took a knock in about 2-3 games and he got anywhere from a few to a handful of snaps.  I think the issue was his shotgun snaps weren't good, but when you haven't had time to practice that during the week and are coming in cold switching over from G to C that can happen.  I don't remember his actual play/blocking being poor.

 

54 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

These twitter Eagles fans my goodness.

 

This is how i feel when i see it 

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I was just looking at another one on Draftwire, and they had the same 3 picks in the first round (slightly different order), followed by Brisker in the 2nd round and Jarrett Patterson in the 3rd round.

OK, those first 3 picks with Brisker in the 2nd sounds like a great start to the draft.  My only issue is it means we'll be rolling with Hurts again in 2022. 

 

Didn’t Seumalo take snaps at center the week or two before the playoffs in 2017 when they were resting players? 

 

5 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Eagles Trivia: who I am?

 

Seth Joyner.

4 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Didn’t Seumalo take snaps at center the week or two before the playoffs in 2017 when they were resting players? 

Yes. Kelce started to keep his streak going and Seumalo stepped in.

1 minute ago, Green_Guinness said:

OK, those first 3 picks with Brisker in the 2nd sounds like a great start to the draft.  My only issue is it means we'll be rolling with Hurts again in 2022. 

 

Yeah, I don't think anyone should be inspired by that likely outcome, but they'll use the "we went from 4 wins to 9 wins" as a rationale (without saying 9 wins is the ceiling)

A few possibilities for the offseason:

Sticking with Hurts and building the roster likely means the Eagles don't see a viable alternative in the QB market

Acquiring a QB like Carr or Jimmy G or comparable likely means Nick prefers to go with a pocket passer

Acquiring Wilson/Watson likely means get the QB first and figure out the rest of the roster later

Drafting Pickett or Ridder likely means Hurts would be shipped off prior to the draft

 

Having Minshew gives the Eagles the flexibility to trade Hurts prior to the draft if the right offer comes along -- I'd place his value at a 3rd round pick.  If Minshew is traded before the draft that would send signals Hurts will be around at least one more year.

29 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

There's two 25 year old safeties in FA. Marcus Williams and Jessie Bates. I seriously hope they land one of these guys. Then you can still draft another in the top 3 rounds to pair up. 

Hmmm.  Williams in his 5 seasons has 15 INTs and 38 PDs along with 239 solo tackles.  Saints are in cap Hell so they shouldn't be able to re-sign him.  He'd be a FA target for me.

Bates in his 4 seasons has 10 INTs and 35 PDs with 288 solo tackles.  However, the Bengals are showing $58M in cap space for 2022 so good chance they re-sign him.  They need OL and D if they want to compete with BUF and KC.

Thanks for the info.  I think we'd have a better shot at Williams and would be happy if we signed him.  Seems like the type of player we need in the secondary.

 

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

As you wish. 🤷‍♂️

You are trying to discuss line play with a guy that doesn’t give reasons like ability to anchor or footwork in his reasoning.  Most people don’t see line play as thoroughly as you.   I do worry that we lose a little speed with Seumalo in place of Kelce but he sure has demonstrated the ability to move.   Dickerson is not at his level at this point and I like Dickerson.

1 hour ago, Outlaw said:

Watching these makes me ill. Even Minshew sees Quez there.

Too soon?

I like Gowan as well. My top 2 are Sauce and Booth. Would be thrilled with either.

But Minshew couldn’t hit those.throws. 

I like Sauce and Booth but I want to confirm their speed at this point. 

6 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

The 40 times are going to move  this board around 

The movement isn't on the teams' boards.   Teams have a lot  more GPS data that they use to determine athletic profiles.  We will see internet draft experts start adjusting their boards based on the physical testing. I would bet a player running a 4.3 is not going to surprise a team at this point.  

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

You are trying to discuss line play with a guy that doesn’t give reasons like ability to anchor or footwork in his reasoning.  Most people don’t see line play as thoroughly as you.   I do worry that we lose a little speed with Seumalo in place of Kelce but he sure has demonstrated the ability to move.   Dickerson is not at his level at this point and I like Dickerson.

I was hoping to get into a conversation but. Oh well.

And whoever replaces Kelce will not be as fast, not unless Tyreek Hill plays C.🥴

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

But Minshew couldn’t hit those.throws. 

I like Sauce and Booth but I want to confirm their speed at this point. 

Same as WRs, speed is not the biggest factor for good CB play. 

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

The movement isn't on the teams' boards.   Teams have a lot  more GPS data that they use to determine athletic profiles.  We will see internet draft experts start adjusting their boards based on the physical testing. I would bet a player running a 4.3 is not going to surprise a team at this point.  

Now that Gettleman isn't around anymore it won't. 

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Yeah, I don't think anyone should be inspired by that likely outcome, but they'll use the "we went from 4 wins to 9 wins" as a rationale (without saying 9 wins is the ceiling)

A few possibilities for the offseason:

Sticking with Hurts and building the roster likely means the Eagles don't see a viable alternative in the QB market

I think they'll try one way or another.  They are always looking to upgrade, though they don't always make the right move, but they are going to try.

Acquiring a QB like Carr or Jimmy G or comparable likely means Nick prefers to go with a pocket passer

No to both.  Cost would be too high for the value in return and neither are in the top tier.

Acquiring Wilson/Watson likely means get the QB first and figure out the rest of the roster later

This is the boom/bust option.  His red flags are pretty bad.  He's a talent and we'd have one of the top 3 QBs in the NFC at the least, but so many hurdles to jump over to get there then there's no guarantee those red flags wouldn't surface again. 

Drafting Pickett or Ridder likely means Hurts would be shipped off prior to the draft

I think Strong is the most NFL ready QB in the draft.  We'll know more after the Senior Bowl and Combine with the medical on his knee being the main thing with him.  That checks out, and it's looking like it should, and he could go before our first pick anyway.  But, yeah, drafting one of those guys and you have to trade Hurts and roll with Minshew in 2022 and sit the rookie to learn as I don't think any of them are ready to play in their first year.

 

Having Minshew gives the Eagles the flexibility to trade Hurts prior to the draft if the right offer comes along -- I'd place his value at a 3rd round pick.  If Minshew is traded before the draft that would send signals Hurts will be around at least one more year.

 

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

It seems like people are forgetting the junk the Bills had at WR for Allen's first 2 seasons.  They went out and acquired a stud WR1, and acquired a G, C, and T in free agency.

17 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

It’s like the sam Bradford argument at the end of the 2015 season where people convinced themselves he was going to be a franchise QB cause of his last 7 games of the season. 

23 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

OK, those first 3 picks with Brisker in the 2nd sounds like a great start to the draft.  My only issue is it means we'll be rolling with Hurts again in 2022. 

 

Could be the 'stashe though!!!

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The movement isn't on the teams' boards.   Teams have a lot  more GPS data that they use to determine athletic profiles.  We will see internet draft experts start adjusting their boards based on the physical testing. I would bet a player running a 4.3 is not going to surprise a team at this point.  

Every year there are a few 40 times/other tests that greatly change draft position. Guys like Chris Johnson, Dontari Poe, Vernon Davis, and Matt Jones shot up the board after the Combine.

7 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

 

Strong is becoming more and more my guy.

Just now, SB52 said:

Every year there are a few 40 times/other tests that greatly change draft position. Guys like Chris Johnson, Dontari Poe, Vernon Davis, and Matt Jones shot up the board after the Combine.

They change where rhe media and sites have guys... not necessarily where teams do.  We dont know what teams are thinking.  I preder to think that the scouting websites have their evaluations... and then they start to move things to more accurately reflect what they are hearing from the pros.  The pros arent changing their boards as dramatically as these sites do based on shirts and shorts workouts.

FWIW, Josh Allen had a higher QBR as a rookie than Hurts did this season....and he's considerably bigger and has ten times the arm.

They are not the same.

3 minutes ago, Swoop said:

FWIW, Josh Allen had a higher QBR as a rookie than Hurts did this season....and he's considerably bigger and has ten times the arm.

They are not the same.

But we don't know they can't be the same next year. 

 

 

Ha! Hater. 

I'm so ready for Jimmy G to win it all. QB is of course the most important position, but it's still a sports team and you can win with average talent there.

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Strong is becoming more and more my guy.

Yep. He's worth a shot.