11 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That’s cute.  Blame McNabb not the coach 

I mean he did choke away the SB when he went.  

11 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Why is that ??  Why isn't he throwing to Reagor, JJAWful, Watkins ??

Amazing what happens when you draft and develop good skill position players for a QB. So we’re allowed to crap on Joe Burrow because he utilizes the gifts his GM gave him. Meanwhile Hurts doesn’t utilize the weapons of goedert and smith nearly as much as we should. 

clearly the Bengals would be in the Super Bowl without Joe Burrow. Just stick Andy dalton in there and they are in the same position. 

The entire franchise of the bengals changed when they got Joe Burrow. You could argue any other point you want, but that team did not change its fortune until they got to burrow 

24 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Watson raped them?

 

Yeah that's how I'd classify some of the things I've read. 

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Yeah that's how I'd classify some of the things I've read. 

don't forget this is the guy who excused Joe Mixon knocking out a woman and was banging the table for the Eagles to draft him

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Strong Matt Patricia vibes here

This schtick from belicheats coaching tree Is wearing thin.

They all seem like pretty good coordinators yet when they get hired as coaches they all come in running their mouths then take nose dives.

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Yeah that's how I'd classify some of the things I've read. 

So.....you don't believe Watson gets to have his day in court? Innocent until proven guilty and all of that? 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Amazing what happens when you draft and develop good skill position players for a QB. So we’re allowed to crap on Joe Burrow because he utilizes the gifts his GM gave him. Meanwhile Hurts doesn’t utilize the weapons of goedert and smith nearly as much as we should. 

clearly the Bengals would be in the Super Bowl without Joe Burrow. Just stick Andy dalton in there and they are in the same position. 

The entire franchise of the bengals changed when they got Joe Burrow. You could argue any other point you want, but that team did not change its fortune until they got to burrow 

Which was my point about their "rebuild”.

38 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

I think once the NFL gets the 18th game, the SB will be on president's day weekend right?

My sincere sympathy to those who must work that day for the greater benefit to society.

7 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean he did choke away the SB when he went.  

Yup, Reid didn't throw McNabbs 3 Ints in that game.

I realize we all come from different backgrounds, different gentics, with different apptitudes and abilities etc. 

But imagine watching the QB play in the playoffs the past 2 weeks, and coming away, still believing Hurts is our guy, or is still capable of being THAT guy?  Imagine being one of the very few remaining Hurts backers left and trying to convince the rest of US we are all wrong? 

 I mean I guess it is possible, but I have not seen anything from Hurts to even remotely suggest he can be that guy, even if we consider him basically a rookie for the next 5 seasons. 

 

6 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

So.....you don't believe Watson gets to have his day in court? Innocent until proven guilty and all of that? 

Nope, guilty, line him up in front of a firing squad before he takes Hurts job.

Just now, Casey @ Bat said:

Which was my point about their "rebuild”.

The Bengals did not fully commit to a rebuild until they fired Marvin Lewis went with Zac Taylor. Marvin Lewis was coming off a 12 win season in 2015. He’s going into 2016 after having four consecutive years of 10+ win season. He didn’t say you know what we need to rebuild this entire roster. They were trying to make it so they could get to the next level. The following two years Andy Dalton declined and the team started to deteriorate around him.

At that point it completely fell off the wagons in 2018 when dalton got hurt to the point where they realize they needed to do a rebuild and Marvin Lewis wasn’t the coach they wanted to pay to do that. And that is the reason why he eventually got fired when he probably should’ve been fired 2-3 years ago when they couldn’t get over the hump with him as coach.

3 hours ago, Ipiggles said:

Is there a more useless profession than influencer? (from a rather useless generation, I might add)  I say it's not a sustainable income in the long run, most of the "influencers will end up poor with no real life skills in the end!. 

A friend cited a study at a large inner city High Shool, all students were polled what they wanted to do for a career  = 70+% wanted to be either an influencer or youtube video creator.   If you are between the ages of 30-50 you will witness what happens when that generation is in control. 

They'll be working for those who don't aspire to being influencers or youtube creators - if they're lucky and developed some useful skills.

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Yup, Reid didn't throw McNabbs 3 Ints in that game.

Agreed , but what Reid did do, and usually does, is he avoids running the ball. He also has ongoing in game clock management issues.

9 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

So.....you don't believe Watson gets to have his day in court? Innocent until proven guilty and all of that? 

Innocent in a court if law, this isn't a court of law, says nothing anywhere about innocent until proven guilty in a court of public opinion

Is Rothlisberger innocent of rape because he settled out of a court of law???

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The Bengals did not fully commit to a rebuild until they fired Marvin Lewis went with Zac Taylor. Marvin Lewis was coming off a 12 win season in 2015. He’s going into 2016 after having four consecutive years of 10+ win season. He didn’t say you know what we need to rebuild this entire roster. They were trying to make it so they could get to the next level. The following two years Andy Dalton declined and the team started to deteriorate around him.

At that point it completely fell off the wagons in 2018 when dalton got hurt to the point where they realize they needed to do a rebuild and Marvin Lewis wasn’t the coach they wanted to pay to do that. And that is the reason why he eventually got fired when he probably should’ve been fired 2-3 years ago when they couldn’t get over the hump with him as coach.

Never winning a playoff game is the obvious choice here but you just put a lot of work into that so I’ll agree. 

18 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I mean, sure, Burrow doesn't have that effortless flick of the wrist and launch the ball 80 yards like Allen or Herbert; but he has more than adequate strength to make any given throw, and his deep accuracy is phenomenal. He had a 9.0 average air yards per attempt this year, which is good. Hurts for comparison was 7.1. 

Further, you'll likely bring up QBR, which Burrow had 54.3 to Hurts 48.6. Of course, this factors in running, which should render the stat essentially moot. Burrow averaged 288 yards per game to Hurts 210, threw 34 TDs to Hurts 16 in only one more game played. To think they had only that small a difference in QBR when the actual passing numbers are that different further highlights just how bad a passer Hurts is. 

Let's assume Burrow's arm is just the same as Hurts.  If their arm strength is equal, why is Burrows so much better at QB? It's not like Burrow is so much more experienced a starter.  I mean Hurts started 30 more college games and played in more NFL games than Burrow.  He has 7 less starts but he was better in those 7 starts.  The problem with Hurts is that his arm strength is combined with below average processing and below average mechanics.  The result he is slower to make decisions and then to get set to make throws.   Sure it would have helped Hurts to have better receivers but receivers don't fix his problems.  

35 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

If the Saints had any cap room Garoppolo would likely be going there.  Instead he'll likely end up in PIT or WFT.

Mike Tomlin said he wanted a mobile QB.  I’ll be interested to see if the organization listens.

5 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Agreed , but what Reid did do, and usually does, is he avoids running the ball. He also has ongoing in game clock management issues.

The run was going no where in that game, fraley kept getting pushed back, he got owned by Seymour who bill move to NT from DE for that game, Westbrook had 15 carries the 44 yards, that's under 3 yards/ carry.

 

Clock management wasn't perfect but McNabb had two really costly INTs in that game, not surprisingly both on same look from D. 

It is what it is, they all failed and share blame, some more than others, I put the majority of blame on McNabb, didn't he have a fumble in that game too???

29 minutes ago, austinfan said:

 

And no, Burrow doesn't have great arm strength, anyone who watched him this post-season can see that, he's very accurate and finds his open receiver, it also helped that he was throwing to Chase, Higgins and Boyd, as well as Uzomah/Sample and has a top RB in Mixon. But he wasn't flinging fastballs.

I'm not sure if you're still going by his NFL scouting reports from when he was drafted but Burrow worked on his mechanics last off-season and increased his throwing velocity.

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2021/6/3/22466444/joe-burrows-arm-looks-much-stronger

"That only confirmed what Tyler Boyd said about Burrow’s arm being stronger and his passes causes a "stinging” sensation in receivers’ hands."

 

Just because a QB chooses not to throw "bullets" on every throw doesn't necessarily translate to him "not having a strong arm".   Burrow can throw an accurate ball 60+ yards.  No "arm strength" issues there, imo. 

4 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

I realize we all come from different backgrounds, different gentics, with different apptitudes and abilities etc. 

But imagine watching the QB play in the playoffs the past 2 weeks, and come away still believing Hurts is our guy, or is still capable of being THAT guy?  Imagine being one of the very few remaining Hurts backers left and trying to convince the rest of US we are all wrong? 

 I mean I guess it is possible, but I have not seen anything from Hurts to even remotely suggest he can be that guy, even if we consider him basically a rookie for the next 5 seasons. 

 

My takeaway from the playoffs in general is that we're not close to being competitive. Our defense in its current state would get trampled and we don't have all the pieces on offense.

11 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Never winning a playoff game is the obvious choice here but you just put a lot of work into that so I’ll agree. 

The problem with the Bengals was they needed a coach to take them to another level and they just kept going back to Marvin Lewis when he had proven he couldn’t and his team lacked discipline (steelers playoff game). cause their owner was cheap and didn’t want to buy him out until it was completely obvious they needed too and they were in a state where they needed complete rebuild and didn’t want to pay him to do a rebuild. 

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

The run was going no where in that game, fraley kept getting pushed back, he got owned by Seymour who bill move to NT from DE for that game, Westbrook had 15 carries the 44 yards, that's under 3 yards/ carry.

 

Clock management wasn't perfect but McNabb had two really costly INTs in that game, not surprisingly both on same look from D. 

It is what it is, they all failed and share blame, some more than others, I put the majority of blame on McNabb, didn't have a fumble in that game too???

Don’t think he had an official fumble. On the 2nd or 3rd play, he was hit and the ball came out, but he might have already been ruled down. Of course, it’s been 17 years so my memory could be off. 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Vikings GM.

Underrated comment 🤣

Luckily for us, they have a new GM so we're back in business with all 31!

27 minutes ago, RLC said:

Strong Matt Patricia vibes here

Can't wait to beat him twice a year.

24 minutes ago, RLC said:

Strong Matt Patricia vibes here

I’m guessing Mara probably views it like tom coughlin would do something like that. When in reality feels very much like joe judge saying something of that nature.