1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

Bottom of the Barrel after all the candidates they wanted turned them down. 

Go Doug! Hope he gets the job.

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yep.  They didn't draft him as a signal that they are rebuilding and moving on from Wentz.  They got cute and tried to be the smartest guys in the room and it backfired.  Their "QB Factory" line said all you needed to know.  I believe it was one of two reasons why they drafted Hurts.    

- They wanted to flip Hurts either during, just after or later on down the road for a better draft pick. 

- They wanted to use him in the slash Taysom Hill type roll.  

 

I tend to lean more with the first option.  

Howie said one of the reasons they wanted an above-average backup to Wentz is that the backup had to play the end of the season and/or in playoffs frequently. Howie can be full of it but that seems like a legit reason to me. Josh McCown or similar just wasn't going to get it done.

What happened to those reports that the Jags were firing Balke, hiring Adrian Wilson as GM and Leftwich as HC? 

20 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Not that bad an opportunity with Lawrence, Etienne, Shenault, etc. on offense and some good pieces on defense such as (DE) Josh Allen.  Not much in the manner of short-term expectations to meet.

Just have to find a way to tell Khan to stay out of the way.

29 minutes ago, bitbased said:

I don't disagree. He's by far my least preferred, Pickett or Strong are decent value there but I don't want Corral. Just going with the suggestion of going QB/WR in the 1st rather than picking 2 or 3 players on D.

I’m not overly impressed with Corral. 

25 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Kempski must really like the Eagles D.  Then again, Kempski might be the dumbest Eagles beat writer.

QB in Round 1 would have to be Pickett.  Round 2 Strong.  Round 3 Ridder.  I don't think any of those guys make it to the Eagles picks in those rounds, though.

Btw -- Corral's college stats are eerily similar to Johnny Manziel; except his numbers were even just a bit below.

Pickett, Corral, Willis and Strong all go R1 if his knee checks out. Ridder could be a candidate for that move into pick 31/32 to get the 5th year option guys but he’s most likely a top half of R2. R3 will probably be Zappe. 

33 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:

Anyone see a run on offense line and defense before Eagles pick.  QBs could be there.

Problem is CAR at #6, DEN at #9 and WFT at #11 are in dire need of a QB.  Other teams like PIT and NO might trade up as well.  The QBs will be over-drafted again.

ATL could go QB, even MIN could go QB.

4 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I’m not overly impressed with Corral. 

Pickett, Corral, Willis and Strong all go R1 if his knee checks out. Ridder could be a candidate for that move into pick 31/32 to get the 5th year option guys but he’s most likely a top half of R2. R3 will probably be Zappe. 

Hope they all go before our picks.  It should help push a couple D players within our reach.  Would be preferred to have those 3 plus a run on OL players early on.

Corral concerns me. He seems small and while his arm is better than Hurts (not saying much) I think it will limit what he can do in the NFL.

Strong is my ideal choice if we go QB. I like Pickett more than most of the board seems to. Have no interest in anyone else. Zappe maybe depending on where it is.

1 minute ago, Swoop said:

Corral concerns me. He seems small and while his arm is better than Hurts (not saying much) I think it will limit what he can do in the NFL.

Strong is my ideal choice if we go QB. I like Pickett more than most of the board seems to. Have no interest in anyone else. Zappe maybe depending on where it is.

I’d be happy with Ridder in the 2nd. He needs a year on the bench but he has talent. 

1 hour ago, bitbased said:

It wouldn't be the worst draft but ignoring CB and Safety until the 4th round seems poor.

Maybe not the worst but pretty close.

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Down to those 3 guys and Kevin O'Connell apparently.  Flores might get another offer, McCown clearly isn't qualified ... although hiring him would be a Texans thing to do.

I'd hire him to be an OC without a doubt. Coach? Probably better than Doug either way.

29 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

BS.  Howie and Lurie shouldn’t have thrown all that money on Wentz then.  But for a dirty head shot by Clowney, Howie drafts a back up in the 2nd round?   No explanation makes sense.  

There's no denying that Wentz was unable to finish the 2017 & 2018 seasons due to injury. Could the brain trust have addressed the situation differently? Maybe but they didn't want a Nate Sudfeld starting a playoff game.

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Problem is CAR at #6, DEN at #9 and WFT at #11 are in dire need of a QB.  Other teams like PIT and NO might trade up as well.  The QBs will be over-drafted again.

ATL could go QB, even MIN could go QB.

CAR, since they lack draft capital having given it away for their current QB, would be a very good candidate to draft a QB. 

DEN has the team that if they were able to acquire Wilson/Watson/Rodgers that a move like that would put them in the AFC race.  They'd have to give up #9 to get one of those QBs, but they'd have a few year window at least and could draft a QB in the 3rd or later.

Wankers, yeah, they need a QB so very possible they'd draft one.  Probably Willis.

PGH said they won't trade the farm for Rodgers/Watson/Wilson so would they trade up to draft a QB?  And how many spots would they have to trade up?  Getting in front of CAR would be very costly.  Even getting in front of the Wankers would costly, just less so.  Doesn't seem like their MO. 

NO really F'd themselves with that Hill contract.  Winston was doing well with them until he got hurt.  Even if they bring him back you have Hill and his way way overpaid contract.  They are in the biggest cap Hell in the NFL and have a good amount of FAs (and hoping we snag one of them, S Williams), most of which they may not be able to re-sign, so I don't think giving away draft capital is a good move for them.  They're going to need it.

ATL needs a new QB and OL help, but for some reason they keep drafting skill players in the 1st Round.  They could draft one here.

It would be funny to see how Cousins handles MIN drafting a QB in the 1st Round.  Could happen, but I could see them talking themselves into trying to bolster the rest of their roster.

 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You don’t use a 2nd rounder on a back up emergency QB.  Period.  Dumb reasoning.  

The better move is to bring in a vet who has either been a career backup or former starter who is now in a backup role, with either being able to get the job done for a short stretch of games.  And use that 2nd Round pick on a player who can make some positive contributions in his rookie season.

 

Hurts, not as good a runner as Allen, and not even in the stratosphere of Allen as a passer.

 

 

17 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Corral concerns me. He seems small and while his arm is better than Hurts (not saying much) I think it will limit what he can do in the NFL.

Strong is my ideal choice if we go QB. I like Pickett more than most of the board seems to. Have no interest in anyone else. Zappe maybe depending on where it is.

Pickett and Strong should arm wrestle.  Winner goes to the Eagles.

4 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

The better move is to bring in a vet who has either been a career backup or former starter who is now in a backup role, with either being able to get the job done for a short stretch of games.  And use that 2nd Round pick on a player who can make some positive contributions in his rookie season.

 

Like Jeremy Chinn for example.  It was hilarious that he scored the two defensive TD's right after it was reported that is who the scouts wanted at that pick.

39 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

BS.  Howie and Lurie shouldn’t have thrown all that money on Wentz then.  But for a dirty head shot by Clowney, Howie drafts a back up in the 2nd round?   No explanation makes sense.  

That backup was ranked around 20th, ahead of a half dozen QBs taken in the first round the last five years or so. But he was a 3rd rd value. What does that make the other QBs? 6th rd?

(Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, Mayfield, D Jones, Darnold, Goff).

The only probowl QB to play in a championship game was Mahoomes. I'd be interested in a stat breakdown of QBs against above average and below average defenses - my suspicion is that top QBs pad their stats against bad defenses (throwing accurately to open WRs from a clean pocket) but have less of a statistical advantage against good defenses.

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You don’t use a 2nd rounder on a back up emergency QB.  Period.  Dumb reasoning.  

And was really a rookie, and would forever be basically a rookie as a backup.  Never going to be good enough to win a playoff game in an emergency.

What would the trade look like between Tampa and the 49ers if Brady decides he wants to place his final year on the 49ers?  Just Jimmy G for Brady straight up?  I'm sure the 49ers would have to toss in some sort of pick but I don't think it'd be a high one.  

2 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

The better move is to bring in a vet who has either been a career backup or former starter who is now in a backup role, with either being able to get the job done for a short stretch of games.  And use that 2nd Round pick on a player who can make some positive contributions in his rookie season.

 

Have you seen how bad the majority of backup QBs were this year when forced to start? 

So you'd have to get lucky to land a competent veteran (the best want to start, or at least backup a QB they think they can beat out)

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

Have you seen how bad the majority of backup QBs were this year when forced to start? 

So you'd have to get lucky to land a competent veteran (the best want to start, or at least backup a QB they think they can beat out)

Have you seen how bad Hurts was this year being handed the starting job?  He played just like the majority of the backups.