Just now, Blazehound said:

All depends if he can prove his allegation. As it stands, it all seems to be hearsay, opinions and observations. If there is no hard evidence with the serious allegations he’s throwing around, then I agree, he’s likely done in the NFL.

I suppose that's true.  But, if he's not actually burned the bridge yet, he's at least doused it in gasoline.

36 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I like Beavers. I want an all CFP draft from Howie as the theme this year. Lol Only Bama, Georgia, Cinci or Michigan players allowed. 

I like beaver too... I mean Beavers. Another SAM player that could be a great fit is Nik Bonitto but he's probably gone by round 3. 

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Patrick Graham is an internal candidate. He does NOT count towards the Rooney Rule. The rule is 2 external minority candidates.

When did the rule become 2?   And why do the candidates need to be external?  Hiring a minority from within wouldn't be a good thing?

This rule is just too arbitrary, and is itself racist.  And rather than focusing on getting 'the right people' in jobs, it's focusing on race.  Racism is bad.  Making race a factor in defining who needs to be interviewed to fight against race being used as a factor to determine who wouldn't be interviewed is not an answer to the problem, is still racism, but the pendulum has swung in the other direction.

5 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

He would be a great versatile option here. They need more pass catching weapons in general. 

I think there are much better pass catching TEs later. McBride is really good all around, but will go in R2 and is an average athlete. I’d rather see Turner, Kolar, etc later. 

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

I like beaver too... I mean Beavers. Another SAM player that could be a great fit is Nik Bonitto but he's probably gone by round 3. 

I think Bonitto winds up with his hand in the dirt. 

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Patrick Graham is an internal candidate. He does NOT count towards the Rooney Rule. The rule is 2 external minority candidates.

Which adds even more silliness to the rule.  We want teams to interview more black coaches but you don't count. 

13 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

He would be a great versatile option here. They need more pass catching weapons in general. 

They need a better pass throwing weapon as well.   

 

But, Jake Ferguson is a TE I am very excited for them to bring in.

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Which adds even more silliness to the rule.  We want teams to interview more black coaches but you don't count. 

 

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

When did the rule become 2?   And why do the candidates need to be external?  Hiring a minority from within wouldn't be a good thing?

This rule is just too arbitrary, and is itself racist.  And rather than focusing on getting 'the right people' in jobs, it's focusing on race.  Racism is bad.  Making race a factor in defining who needs to be interviewed to fight against race being used as a factor to determine who wouldn't be interviewed is not an answer to the problem, is still racism, but the pendulum has swung in the other direction.

Because teams were interviewing internal candidates with zero intention of hiring them (ex: Staley when we hired Pederson).

It's easy to say racism is bad. This is a real problem. No one wants to do anything about it, so racism persists. I dislike the Rooney rule too, but I'm waiting for a better alternative.

I like Bonnito as 34 olb 

The Commies name and uniform looks like they were stolen from a local high school and had a different name stitched on.

It's great.

1 minute ago, UK Eagle said:

The Commies name and uniform looks like they were stolen from a local high school and had a different name stitched on.

It's great.

They’re so bad. Should have went with Washington Warthogs. 

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Because teams were interviewing internal candidates with zero intention of hiring them (ex: Staley when we hired Pederson).

It's easy to say racism is bad. This is a real problem. No one wants to do anything about it, so racism persists. I dislike the Rooney rule too, but I'm waiting for a better alternative.

The answer is people's hearts need to change.  You can't legislate that.  That's not how it works.  Racist people are racist.  Legislating it changes behavior, not attitudes, and if there's a hoop to jump through, they will jump through it and then do what they wanted to in the first place. 

 

Is it racist that Daboll was hired over Flores?  Is that shocking to anyone given that the Giants just hired a GM from the Bills organization?   Nope, not even a little bit.  It only hints of racism because of the rule, not the actual turn of events.    Meanwhile, Daboll was a candidate with other teams as well, so the Giants had to move quickly to lock him up.  

 

So, the only answer to the problem created by the Rooney Rule is to interview all the minority candidates first, so that you are then free to hire whomever you wish once you've checked off that box, be it a minority or not.  But, you can't hire the first minority... or even the second minority you interview, if that minority is an internal hire... because then they wouldn't have fulfilled the Rooney Rule, even while hiring a minority candidate.  

 

The answer is that we live in a world with problems.  Legislating hoops to jump through won't change that.  We are fighting racism with racism.  How does that help to erase the mental divides in the differences between people?  It doesn't.  In fact, it does exactly the opposite, it highlights it, and forces people who might not otherwise be thinking racially to think racially in order to not be labelled a racist.   It's bass-ackwards.

Stuck in a car dealership watching whatever the hell NBCs morning show is called, and theyre talking about the Commanders

Had a bunch of players talking about how awesome the name is.  Then pivot beautifully to how racist the Dolphins are compared to the Commanders who are so diverse and such an example (nevermind that they just changed their name because they thought it was racist)

Hey arseholes:  your team, owner, stadium, and now your team name sucks.  

Total disconnection fro reality.  Hilarious.

I think they should of stayed with WFT  

29 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

He would be a great versatile option here. They need more pass catching weapons in general. 

The video show gigantic Beavers covering the top TE in the class.  Impressive rep by Beavers.

24 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I think there are much better pass catching TEs later. McBride is really good all around, but will go in R2 and is an average athlete. I’d rather see Turner, Kolar, etc later. 

I think Bonitto winds up with his hand in the dirt. 

I love Bonitto here in Averys role.  A little off ball.  A little hand down.  He can do it all.

Same with Beavers.

6 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

They’re so bad. Should have went with Washington Warthogs. 

Or even stay as WFT. Commanders is just lame for many reasons, and the jerseys/presentation are a summation of how bad they are as an organisation.

19 minutes ago, RLC said:

Patrick Graham is an internal candidate. He does NOT count towards the Rooney Rule. The rule is 2 external minority candidates.

Flores got an interview.  The Giants made no decision and no announcement, and no hire, until Flores had his interview.  He had an opportunity to go in and ‘wow’ them and help them re-think which way they were leaning with Daboll.  He didn’t get it done.

Flores didn’t get the Giants HC job; it went to someone Joe Schein had significant experience working with.  Flores had never even been a coordinator before the Dolphins handed him a head coaching job.  Where was the complaining from other more qualified candidates when Flores got hired?

Flores is still under consideration for the Texans and Saints head coaching vacancies — yet he’s going to file suit against the NFL and 3 of its organizations while still interviewing for jobs?  Absolutely ludicrous.  He has absolutely no case against the Giants — they hired the best qualified candidate who the General Manager has a history of working with.  He has absolutely no case against the Broncos — kind of disgusting that he would accuse the hiring managers of being "disheveled” for the interview, or make that public.

If he wants to sue Ross and the Dolphins for wrongful dismissal, that might be another matter — but that’s where he should have confined it.  The smart thing to do would have been to wait until the hiring cycle was concluded.  Now he comes off as exactly what he complained the Dolphins ‘falsely’ portrayed him as — difficult.

Asomoah is one of my favorites , he plays so fast , and a heck of a athletic , some team will get a nice wlb 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

The video show gigantic Beavers covering the top TE in the class.  Impressive rep by Beavers.

It was actually called the 'Giant Beaver'.  

Flores is a clown, he'll never work in the NFL again, he better pray for a settlement

All the rumors about him are apparently true, a man child with a massively inflated ego

30 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Because teams were interviewing internal candidates with zero intention of hiring them (ex: Staley when we hired Pederson).

It's easy to say racism is bad. This is a real problem. No one wants to do anything about it, so racism persists. I dislike the Rooney rule too, but I'm waiting for a better alternative.

I get it but I said it a few nights ago.  The rule makes black coaches (and I say black because as Eugene Chung eluded to, he's the wrong minority) pawns. Internal or external, they might be interviewed to meet a quota.  

I also posted yesterday that the truth is, a lot of your black players who retire, generally don't get in to coaching but they would either go back to what they came from or they might invest in some sort of business.  2015 study showed that 80% of retired players are broke within 3 years.

What the league needs, and maybe they do is a direct line for retiring players to get involved in coaching.  An intern program specifically for retired players who want to coach.  The minute you retire, you enter your name in to the intern program and are assigned to a team.

I'm not sure how the Eagles intern coaches work but we saw Jason Avant do it....but he's podcasting now.  Did he give it a go and say it's not for me or was there no other opportunity for him to progress?  Maybe he just wasn't good at coaching.  

The more players realize that coaching is an option when they are done playing the more will hopefully get involved.  This will allow the natural progression to occur.  DeMeco Ryans and Jarod Mayo are going to be head coaches sooner than later.  It's a natural progression because they retired, got in to coaching and are proving that they are going to be good coaches.  It also has nothing to do with race.  Same goes for Josh McCown.

The league also has to ask themselves, how many black coaches do you need to be happy with the outcome?  Do you go by population percentage or NFL player percentage?  

Black men make up 13% of the United States.  If we go by that, then 4 out 32 coaches is on par with our population.  If you go by the NFL, 57% of the players are black so 18 coaches would have to be black.  

No doubt there is racism in the USA and in the NFL.  However, you'd be led to believe it's the driving force making our country and the league run when the reality is, it's not.  The media, many government officials and large corporations NEED racism because it's the only thing they have to point their fingers at to keep us divided.  When there is blatant racism (Whoopi Goldberg) the only thing that matters is what side of the aisle you're on.

I hope we get past all of this sooner than later.  We need to come together and realize what's driving all of this madness. 

Why isnt the racial makeup of players similar to that of society in general?  Is it racism?

Id love for anyone talking about "systemic racism in the NFL" to answer that

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I think the number is 15 out of 64 Coordinators are black

14 out of 130+ in college. 

Who exactly are these teams supposed to interview/hire?

Like I said yesterday, this "problem" is about the lack of african americans wanted to be in the game of football outside of playing. 

Yep.  The more that get involved in coaching when they retire, the more there will be to hire.  It's not rocket science and it isn't racism.  

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

If he wants to sue Ross and the Dolphins for wrongful dismissal, that might be another matter — but that’s where he should have confined it.  The smart thing to do would have been to wait until the hiring cycle was concluded.  Now he comes off as exactly what he complained the Dolphins ‘falsely’ portrayed him as — difficult.

I wanted to say that but couldn't find the words.  The Dolphins kept it quiet how allegedly difficult he was to deal with as a fellow coach/player; when you consider how other teams leak like a sieve, the Dolphins kind of protected their HC. It was kept in the building.

Do Teams need to record all interviews with minority coaches so that credibly say we took this seriously? 

Until now, I looked at Flores and thought he'd be a future Eagles candidate for HC as I have been impressed with his part in making the Dolphins less of a basket case and how the team kept playing when they had no right.

Now, I'm not sure based on his personality. I'm sure other people are thinking the same too. Look how long Josh McDaniels was left on the outside for doing the dirty on the Colts by 31 other teams. Teams don't want drama in the building

9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

As bad as Commanders is....it's ten times better than the WFT.  

I thought that, until I saw the names they were proposing. Now, WFT seems to be the best of a bad lot.