17 hours ago, NCiggles said:

No - it's not racist.  It doesn't dictate anything.  It doesn't limit opportunities for  white people.  It's just a way to provide opportunity for minorities.  Talk to me after the NFL stops hiring dumb white coaches that are re-treads and failures.    I mean the fact that Gannon has had more interviews than DeMeco Ryans should still tell you something about why the rule is needed.    

Ryans went further in the playoffs.  May rise to availability. May rise to Ryan’s choices.  Gannon is hardly a retread or a failure.  As I pointed out the Rooney rule is limited to one minority group so it hardly provides opportunities for all minorities.  In that way it is a bit racist.  

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

not really surprising tanking occurs in nba and nfl. Quickest way to get blue chip prospects onto a roster. Even hockey and baseball do it when there’s a generational prospect at the top of the draft. The thing that makes it a unique situation is actually paying coaches extra bonus money for losses. the sixers told Brett brown of hinkie’s plan and he signed on to get paid to basically losing games for 3-4 years. However they didn’t add bonuses for doing it. 

The Rooney Rule stuff will get all the media attention but the payment for tanking has the potential to destroy the league. What a complete ****show.

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

Here's the boards #1 Hot Taker's mock draft. Realistic one too(not where we get Kenny Pickett 87th overall cause the website sucks)

#15 - Carson Strong

#16 Nakobe Dean

#19 David Ojabo

#51. Andrew Booth Jr(clemson corner)

#83 Sam Williams,  Ole' Miss. Great Talent, probably 2nd round talent, but off field issues, 

121 - Charlie Kolar

Then not to get specific, Load me up with OL/DL and a running back

Lololololol your realistic mock has Booth falling to 51. 

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

Here's the boards #1 Hot Taker's mock draft. Realistic one too(not where we get Kenny Pickett 87th overall cause the website sucks)

#51. Andrew Booth Jr(clemson corner)

Realistic you say, not a chance in hell this happens.

 

7 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

I think there’s a difference between playing young guys and purposefully trying to lose. Makes them look worse as coaches too. 

the 76ers purposely picked up a lot of guys during that had no business being in the NBA, wanted to lose and then they glorified it on top of it (it’s why the nba stepped in after a couple years). We can say they picked up young guys and play them but let’s be honest the Sixers glorified the process and we all knew what they were doing and why.

Frankly we all knew the dolphins were trying to tank in 2019. If you go look at what their moves were that off-season it was pretty obvious. we talked about it on here that 2019 offseason. Another why we were pissed off when the Eagles lost to the dolphins in Miami that year. 

11 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

I went there for the eagles game this year. Just a trash dump. They didn't even have anyone to sing the national anthem. They put the words on the board and played music while asking the fans to sing. 

Wow😳 

I mean that might be an improvement on some of the jokers they trot out to sing but still come on!

That whole franchise is a dumpster fire, surprised the owners haven't gotten together to vote Snyder out, but then again they'd have to point the fingers at them selves 

As much as Lurie bugged me two seasons ago he's been a top owner in the league since taking over unlike the clown show Snyder's running 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

not really surprising tanking occurs in nba and nfl. Quickest way to get blue chip prospects onto a roster. Even hockey and baseball do it when there’s a generational prospect at the top of the draft. The thing that makes it a unique situation is actually paying coaches extra bonus money for losses. the sixers told Brett brown of hinkie’s plan and he signed on to get paid to basically losing games for 3-4 years. However they didn’t add bonuses for doing it. 

People knew tanking was happening, look at the Colts trying to get Andrew Luck. The thing that makes it interesting is that owners and the league are invested and involved with gambling companies. That's not a good look no matter what. Purposefully losing, thus knowing the outcome of the game, and gambling do not mix.

15 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Sadly, Commanders was by far the best team name of the final 8 choices.  The process was off the rails by that point.

The color scheme is fine; they keep the maroon and yellow -- don't like the Commanders lettering across the front, though.  Not a fan of the basic black third jersey -- they should have done more there.  The white looks not bad at all.

I like the helmet design.  Helmet logos are also redesigned quite frequently, so it can be improved upon easily.

I thought Red Wolves was the best 🤷‍♂️

11 hours ago, matchew88 said:

I was recently imagining the NFL being so fixed and so corrupt that teams just start playing a game with their own ball and according to rules and flags agreed by both, leaving the refs and the league out of it and the "official" scoreboard irrelevant. Would be huge news overnight. Then the commissioner trying to fine both teams and not being able to collect, so they leave the NFL with random teams joining them in a new league. Then all the teams end up leaving the corrupt authoritarian establishment league management (commissioner's office, etc) and re-form a league that has pure football how it should be played.

A man can dream.

I thought about stuff like that when I was 13 too.

1 minute ago, wussbasket said:

People knew tanking was happening, look at the Colts trying to get Andrew Luck. The thing that makes it interesting is that owners and the league are invested and involved with gambling companies. That's not a good look no matter what. Purposefully losing, thus knowing the outcome of the game, and gambling do not mix.

Yup. Teams have been tanking for a long time

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I thought Red Wolves was the best 🤷‍♂️

I think Red Wolves is fitting for an elementary school team of 11 year-olds.  It sounds juvenile to me.

Commanders is itself a dumb name and a bad choice.  Wolverines, Warriors, Senators, Generals -- all would have been perfectly suitable. 

6 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

People knew tanking was happening, look at the Colts trying to get Andrew Luck. The thing that makes it interesting is that owners and the league are invested and involved with gambling companies. That's not a good look no matter what. Purposefully losing, thus knowing the outcome of the game, and gambling do not mix.

Just to point out it’s not just NFL owners that are getting involved with sports gambling. So are nba owners. So when the NBA has a 76ers glorifying it when talks about sports gambling came into the fold. there’s teams currently tanking in the nba. This is not just a NFL owners phenomenon.

The problem in all this was that they were giving extra money and incentivizing losing.  That is the difference. I doubt people would really care if teams were just tanking. everyone knew the Dolphins were taking the 2019 season. Go back and look at the moves they made in 2019 offseason to make the roster as bad as possible so that they could get tua. There was tank for tua all over Twitter. 

Just now, Alphagrand said:

I think Red Wolves is fitting for an elementary school team of 11 year-olds.  It sounds juvenile to me.

Commanders is itself a dumb name and a bad choice.  Wolverines, Warriors, Senators, Generals -- all would have been perfectly suitable. 

Agree to disagree

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That should be the headline...and it won't destroy the league.  Just that old moron who owns the Dolphins.  As it should.  

If you call being forced to make a $3,000,000,000 profit being destroyed.

 

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I've seen nothing but late first early 2nds for him. 

Also, i love the fact you ignore all the other pict

You wanna bet that Booth's draft position ??  Avatar bet ??  No way in hell he is not a first round pick.

Put your money where your mouth is.

If I put $100 bet on a team winning and it later came out the team was paid to lose the game and they lost. How would the sport books deal with that?

3 hours ago, greend said:

Sounds the same to me.

I think people get sensitive about the issue.  The reality is that there are still large racial gaps in this country that carry across other measures such as education and experience.  The analogy that I have learned which I think is a good way to understand the problem is that of a fishes and a lake.  If you see one dead fish in a lake, you think there's a problem with the fish.  If you see hundreds of dead fish in the lake,  you think there is a problem with the lake.  Racial disparities that continue across other controls are indicative of systemic issues.  Now some people look at the lake and say well those kinds of fish are just known to die easily and they need to be in another lake by themselves.  I think those people don't realize that all of the fish share the same genetic make up. 

Let's assume there are equally  80 candidates for a job of whom 12 are minorities. Your company plans to interview 15 people for this position. If you were to just to do the math if opportunities were equal, you would assume that out of the 15 applicants at least 2 would be minorities.   

Your company along with others in your industry has a history of discrimination.   You want to help fix the impact of discrimination because  you think that's a good business decision and morally correct.  To fix that problem, you are mandating that at least one applicant interviewed be a minority.  For the 14 applicants that are white, the person making the hiring decision shows up well dressed and spends a full day with the applicant.  For the minority candidate, the person shows up late, hungover in a t-shirt.  The interview lasts an hour.  Maybe the person doing the interview doesn't think he's racist.  He has a lot of black friends and eats tacos on Tuesday.  What is that one minority candidate going to think about the reason the interviewer showed up hungover, in a t-shirt and the interview lasts an hour when he knows he was the only one that had that experience? 

 

After due absence of diligence I have decided to pass on Linderbaum and draft Green if he's there. With Kelce (maybe), Driscoll, and Seumalo, I think we have center covered. Not so much RG.

7 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Drafting Carson strongs TE to pair with him would be a good idea.

Just now, justrelax said:

After due absence of diligence I have decided to pass on Linderbaum and draft Green if he's there. With Kelce (maybe), Driscoll, and Seumalo, I think we have center covered. Not so much RG.

Herbig too?

19 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Ryans went further in the playoffs.  May rise to availability. May rise to Ryan’s choices.  Gannon is hardly a retread or a failure.  As I pointed out the Rooney rule is limited to one minority group so it hardly provides opportunities for all minorities.  In that way it is a bit racist.  

I can't find the exact text of the Rule but I can't see anywhere that it specifies any race type but these were the policy recommendations: 

 make a commitment to interview minority candidates for every head coaching job opening (unless the team had already made a prior commitment to hire a person from within its own staff);

 establish a coordinator/assistant head coach databank to assist NFL teams in the consideration of qualified coaching candidates; and

 allow early interview opportunities for assistant coaches of playoff teams

 

8 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I've seen nothing but late first early 2nds for him. 

Also, i love the fact you ignore all the other pict

Even still...late first/early second is not 51. As to the rest, I like Kolar, Strong, Ojabo.

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Drafting Carson strongs TE to pair with him would be a good idea.

Herbig too?

Herbig is a product of Stoutland's coaching. He's an indifferent athlete who has been coached up. Green is just better and a much better athlete. Under Stout, he has All-Pro potential. It's nice to have Herbig in a pinch but he's no better than average, though he can play all three inside positions. We keep him, he'll play some, but Green is better.

The draft network has 2 different player rankings.  One has Booth as the 6th ranked prospect and the other has him as the 8th ranked prospect.