17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

are you familiar with the player?

Two ACL tears too. 

16 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

If they restructure, depending on what it looks like will dictate his cost.  But whatever is saved of that dead and pushed to 2023 doesnt become free until June 1.  That's exactly what happened with the restructures of Alshon and Malik Jackson.  They pushed money to the next year, but it didn't free up until June 1.

They saved money towards the cap immediately when they restructured. However it did push pretty much the other half into 2022, thats why they still have dead cap this year. They did save some after june 1st because it wasnt guaranteed.

4 hours ago, downundermike said:

Any thoughts on the more than 50 million in dead cap we will have in 2022

It's exaggerated. Maybe you haven't noticed, but we finish each year with $10-20M we roll over to the next season, so some of that restructuring is about having the flexibility to make moves (like trading a player and eating some dead money) during the season - but the money really isn't "dead" as it gets pushed forward. And we're not ready to be big spenders in FA (actually I hope we never are, there's maybe 1-2 guys each year worth the money, the rest are overpays), so we'll eat some of that dead money this season, big deal. Our 2021 and 2022 drafted players won't be extended until 2024/2025, by which time the dead money will be gone and the cap will be escalating.

If Brown retires, we're better off eating the dead money in 2022, we'll have Dickerson, Driscoll, Herbig, Toth, Opeta and whomever we draft on rookie contracts.

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Meanwhile let’s just forget the Eagles re-signed Jason peters and try to make him into a guard. Then he got hurt. Andre Dillard got hurt before the season. so they didn’t have a left tackle and then were forced to eventually play mailata. Brandon Brooks got hurt. Lane Johnson got hurt. Driscoll got hurt. Seumalo got hurt. So you had one starter at the beginning of the season that was the same starter at the end of the season. But RTK is right it was only Carson Wentz in his demise. That makeshift offensive line that was inconsistent week to week had no part in that 4 win team or how he played. 

This season, Seumala was out after 3 games, Dickerson was a rookie coming off an ACL and switching positions. Lane missed 3 games, and we went from Brooks - Driscoll - Herbig - Opeta at RG. We also traded Ertz at mid-season, and had a revolving door at RB. Not as bad as 2020, but not exactly ideal.

 

Seriously, what are we not seeing with Gannon that everybody else in the NFL is?

29 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

  I think it happens at the Senior Bowl and the combine. I’m sure Lowie has looked at all of these guys and considering McNabb’s mobility, Vicks, Wentz’s and Hurts, I could see them liking Pickett and Ridder more than Strong.  

I was talking about Ojabo. 

43 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

 

The post above from last night from someone who actually watched his games and I thought was good info.

That first bolded part to me is huge.  That is really rare in college ball for the QB to be calling out protections every play.  Already gives him an advantage over the other QBs in the draft.  Most of them have the O simplified for them so they just have to make one read and let it rip.

The second part would make you think he does have enough athletic ability, just the knee injury is holding him back.  But someone else posted he was cleared by an NFL doctor and as you said there's a chance for him to get better the further he gets from the injury.  IF they do draft him then I'd want them to trade Hurts, roll with Minshew for 2022 and give Strong a full season to sit and learn as much as he can (and another year of letting that knee heal) with the goal being for him to start in 2023. 

And I don't mind a QB who didn't face the top talent on D because it also means he didn't have the top talent on O around him.  How many QBs from the elite top schools (loaded with O talent around them) have done good to great in the NFL and how many have been mediocre or worse?  Seems like more have not been good than have been good.  I think it's more important to look at the QB himself than where he played and against who.  Does he have enough natural talent and enough natural instincts required for the position that some coaching up will have him able to play well in the NFL?

 

  Strong fumbles with 1:53 left, Nevadas defense gets the ball back at 1:19 in this video at their 10 yd line.   The throws he makes on this drive aren’t made by 1/2 of the starters in the NFL.   He makes a right side hash to left side numbers rocket that is a long throw in college because of their hash marks width.   No athleticism issues. 
 This drive started to put him on the map for me.   No timeouts either. 

 

 

21 minutes ago, austinfan said:

It's exaggerated. Maybe you haven't noticed, but we finish each year with $10-20M we roll over to the next season, so some of that restructuring is about having the flexibility to make moves (like trading a player and eating some dead money) during the season - but the money really isn't "dead" as it gets pushed forward. And we're not ready to be big spenders in FA (actually I hope we never are, there's maybe 1-2 guys each year worth the money, the rest are overpays), so we'll eat some of that dead money this season, big deal. Our 2021 and 2022 drafted players won't be extended until 2024/2025, by which time the dead money will be gone and the cap will be escalating.

If Brown retires, we're better off eating the dead money in 2022, we'll have Dickerson, Driscoll, Herbig, Toth, Opeta and whomever we draft on rookie contracts.

Not exaggerated, it’s a fact.  50 million in dead cap is gross mismanagement 

The throwing with upper body criticism is valid, I think he stepped into his throws 1 time during that whole video.

29 minutes ago, austinfan said:

This season, Seumala was out after 3 games, Dickerson was a rookie coming off an ACL and switching positions. Lane missed 3 games, and we went from Brooks - Driscoll - Herbig - Opeta at RG. We also traded Ertz at mid-season, and had a revolving door at RB. Not as bad as 2020, but not exactly ideal.

It was no way anywhere close to the to the issues the eagles had all last year. The Eagles had 14 different starting offensive line combinations. That doesn’t even count when they got injured middle of the game and they had a switch up combinations. last year Johnson, Brooks, Seumalo played a total of 16 combined games. This year lane Johnson played 14 alone. And they had peters playing at guard which he had never done that before. Driscoll also got hurt. And dillard never stepped on the field. Seumalo also missed 7 games. They had to start Jamon Brown, opeta, herbig and Matt Pryor last year. And pryor who was awful played significant snaps. 

eagles line at one point last year in a game was 

mailata—opeta-kelce-brown-Toth  (driscoll left and Toth replaced him late in that game. Also this was before mailata became what he did this year)

and starting oline was once 

Toth-seumalo-kelce-herbig-pryor 

their oline was significantly worse last year and they didn’t have a backup who was remotely as talented as Dickerson or guys who had actual game reps. There was one game where Jason Kelce was the only starting offensive lineman they had out there. Say whatever you want about Dickerson but the kid we already knew he was talented that wasn’t his problem. His problem was always going to be him staying healthy. Why he fell otherwise he’d have been a high first rounder. And at least this year Opeta is a year older and more groomed with live game reps and ditto for Driscoll and herbig. All of those guys had very minimal to no live game reps last year when thrown out there  

also point out DeSean Jackson missed 11 games. Jalen Reagor hurt his thumb missed a couple games ( this was before he became a bust). Miles sanders again also missed 4 games. Last year Zack Ertz missed 5 weeks. And goedert missed 5 weeks. The two players they had as starters that managed not to get hurt was Carson and kelce. 

12 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Seriously, what are we not seeing with Gannon that everybody else in the NFL is?

Basically Gannon in interviews 

13 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I was talking about Ojabo. 

Apologies 

20 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Seriously, what are we not seeing with Gannon that everybody else in the NFL is?

Obvious stuff

21 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Not exaggerated, it’s a fact.  50 million in dead cap is gross mismanagement 

Its 22 million right now. You’re projecting kelce and Brooks in a bs way to try to make it look way worse than it is. Stop, that’s not how any retirement on good terms ever works and you know it🙄

Someone was talking earlier about Hurts being part of a trade package for Russell Wilson.  While this is true I think Hurts could also be part of a trade package for Carr or Garoppolo as well.  Niners would need a QB as a backup for Lance, and the Raiders would need a QB in exchange if they decided to move on from Carr.

Charles Robinson talked about trading for Carr and said any team that trades for him will also have to commit a new contract that has an AAV of 40+ million.

I like Carr, but not that much. Don't pay good QBs, great QB money, we of all teams should have learned that lesson by now.

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Charles Robinson talked about trading for Carr and said any team that trades for him will also have to commit a new contract that has an AAV of 40+ million.

I like Carr, but not that much. Don't pay good QBs, great QB money, we of all teams should have learned that lesson by now.

Robinson also tweeted with watson when someone said he won’t waive his NTC to come here. Saying the landscape changed. Part of me feels like he knows something

5 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

Its 22 million right now. You’re projecting kelce and Brooks in a bs way to try to make it look way worse than it is. Stop, that’s not how any retirement ever works and you know it🙄

It’s not 50 yet but there is a lot that is unaccounted for still that will add to the $22M when the new league year starts. Everyone with expiring contracts with dummy years will turn into dead money. You’ll have:

Barnett = $7.2M

McLeod = $2.1M

Harris = $2.4M

Kerrigan = $1.1M

Nelson = $1.2M

So it’s roughly at $36M before Brooks or Kelce do anything 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Robinson also tweeted with watson when someone said he won’t waive his NTC to come here. Saying the landscape changed. Part of me feels like he knows something

Yeah, he tweeted about expecting Howie to go all in for Watson about 5 minutes after the game ended.

It's curious, on his appearance on NBC Sports, he said he spoke to an NFL GM that has been working on the QB market for the past few months.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was Howie he spoke too.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It’s not 50 yet but there is a lot that is unaccounted for still that will add to the $22M when the new league year starts. Everyone with expiring contracts with dummy years will turn into dead money. You’ll have:

Barnett = $7.2M

McLeod = $2.1M

Harris = $2.4M

Kerrigan = $1.1M

Nelson = $1.2M

So it’s roughly at $36M before Brooks or Kelce do anything 

Those number are already added into the cap. It can only get better, not worse. 

30 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Basically Gannon in interviews 

He gets freaky. 

15 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Charles Robinson talked about trading for Carr and said any team that trades for him will also have to commit a new contract that has an AAV of 40+ million.

I like Carr, but not that much. Don't pay good QBs, great QB money, we of all teams should have learned that lesson by now.

I think deep down, I truly want what Carson Wentz was supposed to be…a homegrown drafted talent to lead this team into the future ala Allen, Herbert, Burrow, etc. as opposed to some other’s teams retreads. Wilson to me is too old and too expensive, Rodgers is too unrealistic, and Watson is too ****y. The rest of them are marginal expensive upgrades. The only one I’d truly be ok with would be Carr but sure as crap not at $40M/yr. 

Just now, MillerTime said:

Those number are already added into the cap. It can only get better, not worse. 

I don’t know what your implying in that second sentence. 
 

Yes they are accounted for in the cap space. Point was they will move to dead money when the new league year starts. That’s still a lot of dead money to have after leading the league in dead money last year. 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t know what your implying in that second sentence. 
 

Yes they are accounted for in the cap space. Point was they will move to dead money when the new league year starts. That’s still a lot of dead money to have after leading the league in dead money last year. 

Not only that you still have to replace those players either with draft picks or cap space or both or re-sign some. 

30 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Charles Robinson talked about trading for Carr and said any team that trades for him will also have to commit a new contract that has an AAV of 40+ million.

I like Carr, but not that much. Don't pay good QBs, great QB money, we of all teams should have learned that lesson by now.

I think Charles is out to lunch on that one.  About $30-32M seems more likely to me, but I guess the market will dictate his next deal.