Just now, austinfan said:

Wasn't that the description of Russell Wilson before he had an extra season of college football?

uh-oh folks, looks like we're drafting Malik

9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Rule 1: anything the Eagles do from now to the draft is as much misinformation as it is interest.

Rule 2: looking good at the Senior bowl should be taken with a large bag of salt

Rule 3:  prospects rising at this time of the year is a media invention, scouts have been looking at two years of film and doing background checks for months now, if they change their mind over a few practices at the Senior bowl or combine workouts they're idiots. At best, they're just looking for confirmation or red flags.

Back to your slobbering over prospects.

Except that the Eagles seem to put a fairly large amount of stock in the Senior Bowl and have drafted Senior Bowl standouts quite frequently..

10 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’d trade a 1st for Russell Wilson. Not even close. Wouldn’t even regret it if he sucked 

well, ok, glad you're in charge of things in the world

8 minutes ago, austinfan said:

No, they were worried about Chinese COVID policies, something about a 5 week quarantine - imagine the havoc that could do to the NHL season.

It is 3 weeks quarantine for average travelers.  For the Olympics participants and personnel, they go into the bubble right away and stay inside the entire time.  Daily testing for everyone there.

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Wasn't that the description of Russell Wilson before he had an extra season of college football?

And what round was Russ taken? And can you think of examples of guys like MW not working out in the league?

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

Of course, he and his staff are doing their due diligence on all the QB prospects.  I am sure they have people at the Shrine practices doing the same thing.  I would think those that insist that the Eagles must immediately replace Hurts would be thrilled that the Eagles are taking this approach.  Based on the practices, I suspect they are questioning the value of the QBs in this class.  Let’s take Willis.  Big complaint on Hurts is his ability to read.  Willis’ strong arm doesn’t make him better at reading.  His games against bigger schools didn’t convince me he was any better.  Raw and a project?  Why would that be acceptable for Willis in the first round and not Hurts?  

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I have no doubt Lowie will throw crap up against the wall for the QB position until they get it right.  The new Jets.  

AFan- "Oh well then in that case trust Howie's judgement when it comes to the Senior Bowl"...he's an elite GM.  

We're the new Browns

And yes

 

10 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I would never defend the owners.  No amount of dbaggery, cheating, racism, or whatever else would surprise me from any of them.  

But I don't see what is racist about sham interviews when there is a rule requiring them.

And when someone throws in random non-racist dirt (Brady tampering, pay-to-lose scheme) it just comes off as sour grapes trying to tear down a system that he failed in while attaching it to the unstoppable racism train.

I think the point of the rule isn't to have sham interviews but actual interviews with actual candidates who are minorities.  If every other person interviewed for the job is white and is given a serious interview, it might be a problem both in terms of compliance with the NFL's own rule and a discrimination claim.   Flores doesn't need a smoking gun to prove intent.  He needs a combination of anecdotal and statistical evidence.  

The $100,000 payments are problematic for the owner.  Florio discussed whether the payments could violate Federal sports bribery laws.  There is also a Florida anti-sports bribery law that is broader and probably applicable in my view.  Money is hard to hide if the person you gave it to wants to prove they got it from you.  

12 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Of course, he and his staff are doing their due diligence on all the QB prospects.  I am sure they have people at the Shrine practices doing the same thing.  I would think those that insist that the Eagles must immediately replace Hurts would be thrilled that the Eagles are taking this approach.  Based on the practices, I suspect they are questioning the value of the QBs in this class.  Let’s take Willis.  Big complaint on Hurts is his ability to read.  Willis’ strong arm doesn’t make him better at reading.  His games against bigger schools didn’t convince me he was any better.  Raw and a project?  Why would that be acceptable for Willis in the first round and not Hurts?  

I'm thrilled if they are doing their due diligence. I wouldn't be thrilled if we drafted a Hurts clone to replace Hurts

4 minutes ago, greend said:

I'm thrilled if they are doing their due diligence. I wouldn't be thrill if we drafted a Hurts clone to replace Hurts

*With elite arm strength

I haven't heard much about it, but why is Jeff Lurie's son becoming more involved? Besides the obvious reason of being the owners son.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

*With elite arm strength

As you know already I don't know much about the guy. I was speaking in general I guess.

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

*With elite arm strength

MW  definitely has that and upside given his mechanics; let's do the ol'box score scouting just for fun:

And Russ for comparison:

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I haven't heard much about it, but why is Jeff Lurie's son becoming more involved? Besides the obvious reason of being the owners son.

Being groomed to take over as Jeff has said he wants to keep the team in the family.  There is an article in The Athletic about it.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Being groomed to take over as Jeff has said he wants to keep the team in the family.  There is an article in The Athletic about it.

Didn't see that.  Thanks. 

• 
  15.
  David Ojabo

  EDGE Michigan
   
• 
  16.
  Treylon Burks

  WR Arkansas
   
• 
  22.
  Jaquan Brisker

  S Penn State
  
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  51.
  Kyler Gordon

  CB Washington
   
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  53.
  Devonte Wyatt

  DT Georgia
  
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  121.
  Darrian Beavers

  LB Cincinnati
   
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  153.
  Charlie Kolar

  TE Iowa State
   
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  161.
  Dylan Parham

  OG Memphis
   
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  165.
  Obinna Eze

  OT TCU
   
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  207.
  D'Vonte Price

  RB Florida International

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Being groomed to take over as Jeff has said he wants to keep the team in the family.  There is an article in The Athletic about it.

The kid had a "rotational internship” with the NFL from 2017-19.

I can’t blame a father for grooming a son to take over the family business.

4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I just found a picture of a young Hue Jackson.

Funny QB article

2 minutes ago, SB52 said:

The kid had a "rotational internship” with the NFL from 2017-19.

I can’t blame a father for grooming a son to take over the family business.

Yep, I think nearly all posters here would do the exact same thing. 

Willis is a lot closer to Vick than he is to Hurts, but Vick couldn't read a defense either, so...

11 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think the point of the rule isn't to have sham interviews but actual interviews with actual candidates who are minorities.  If every other person interviewed for the job is white and is given a serious interview, it might be a problem both in terms of compliance with the NFL's own rule and a discrimination claim.   Flores doesn't need a smoking gun to prove intent.  He needs a combination of anecdotal and statistical evidence.  

The $100,000 payments are problematic for the owner.  Florio discussed whether the payments could violate Federal sports bribery laws.  There is also a Florida anti-sports bribery law that is broader and probably applicable in my view.  Money is hard to hide if the person you gave it to wants to prove they got it from you.  

Spoken like a member of the plaintiff bar.  Let’s address the first flaw.  He didn’t go through the EEOC process first.  That restricts an employment case.  Anecdotal is rather worthless in a class action.  By its very nature, it is individual, not grouped.  Second, the Rooney rule, especially with the draft compensation, goes far beyond what a reasonable and prudent employer has to do in a normally hiring situation.  They won’t be held to the NFL standard but rather what the standard is for a similar employer.  Think, for example, women music engineers/producers as that is also an entertainment organization. Third, let’s talk statistics.  35% of the coaches and football operations are staffed by minorities.  Further, the employer won’t be considered solely by football operations but the organization as a whole.  When you add in that aspect, the organizations look extremely diverse.

Now let’s discuss the alleged Ross bribe.  Way to individual to stand in a class action.  Same with the QB/yacht thing.  Then add in the injunctive relief sought.  Very narrow.  Eugene Chung wouldn’t fit.  Neither would Raiche.  Frankly, the petition looks like grandstanding and not written by an attorney experienced in class actions.  I would give that snowball in hell a better chance of class certification than this lawsuit.  

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I haven't heard much about it, but why is Jeff Lurie's son becoming more involved? Besides the obvious reason of being the owners son.

Because Lurie is grooming him to take over the franchise.  Jeff is 70, how much longer is he going to play an active role?

He's been doing the various jobs thing to get an idea how the team works, both on the business and football side.

https://fastphillysports.com/eagles-next-ceo-after-jeff-lurie-meet-26-year-old-julian-lurie/

https://theathletic.com/3107490/2022/02/02/why-julian-luries-presence-at-the-senior-bowl-matters-eagles-qb-jalen-hurts-to-undergo-ankle-surgery/

3 hours ago, eglz1 said:

I think it's supposed to be a NONPARTISAN body. What?? Nonpartisan?? What's that?

Yes non not bi.

This article is a great reason not to take those draft evaluations too seriously:

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/what-nfl-draft-experts-said-eagles-drafted-jj-arcega-whiteside