Should have just went with Washington Rad Skinz and had 80's throwback jerseys 

1 hour ago, wussbasket said:

You would have to draft Willis in the 1st to get him. So you are essentially saying they would use a 1st rounder to replace a backup.

How many QBs do you think will actually go in the 1st rd this year?

23 minutes ago, greend said:

1.) I don't get the NFL network anymore. I decided a few years ago to stop paying for it. (The NFL gets enough of my money).

2.) I have reason to doubt you on Crum.

3.) Yes, the choices aren't that great but here we are

2) Well given the draft sites rankings on Crum, I understand the doubt.  My point is that all the QBs available in the draft this year are projects and may be overvalued by desperate teams or maybe not.  Crum was the top QB in the MAC the last two years.  He is a project.  Good size and good arm.  I was a little down on him after the A&M game but that defense gave a lot of SEC QBs grief.  

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Should have just went with Washington Rad Skinz and had 80's throwback jerseys 

Could’ve went with the bullets to dedicate to Washington’s sports history lol  

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

How many QBs do you think will actually go in the 1st rd this year?

3-4. The four is someone does what the ravens did with lamar and wants to get the extra fifth year option and traded up into the late first to do so. 

Malik Willis runs about as much as Hurts does, plays against scrubs, is less dynamic running with the ball, and even less accurate throwing it.  Who the F cares if he has a "cannon" for an arm if the cannon can't hit the broad side of a barn against terrible competition?

Folks are tired of Hurts after 20 NFL starts.  Draft Willis in the first round and you're tied to him for 4 years.  No thanks.

 

						Rushing				Receiving				Scrimmage
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
Career	Overall					366	2131	5.8	29	1	13	13.0	0	367	2144	5.8	29
	Auburn					28	309	11.0	2	0	0		0	28	309	11.0	2
	Liberty					338	1822	5.4	27	1	13	13.0	0	339	1835	5.4	2
*2017	Auburn	SEC	FR	QB	7	16	221	13.8	1	0	0		0	16	221	13.8	1
*2018	Auburn	SEC	SO	QB	5	12	88	7.3	1	0	0		0	12	88	7.3	1
*2020	Liberty	Ind	JR	QB	10	141	944	6.7	14	0	0		0	141	944	6.7	14
*2021	Liberty	Ind	JR	QB	13	197	878	4.5	13	1	13	13.0	0	198	891	4.5	13

 

 

 

						Passing
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
Career	Overall					388	618	62.8	5176	8.4	8.6	48	18	152.9
	Auburn					11	14	78.6	69	4.9	6.4	1	0	143.5
	Liberty					377	604	62.4	5107	8.5	8.7	47	18
*2017	Auburn	SEC	FR	QB	7	6	7	85.7	45	6.4	9.3	1	0	186.9
*2018	Auburn	SEC	SO	QB	5	5	7	71.4	24	3.4	3.4	0	0	100.2
*2020	Liberty	Ind	JR	QB	10	170	265	64.2	2250	8.5	9.0	20	6	155.8
*2021	Liberty	Ind	JR	QB	13	207	339	61.1	2857	8.4	8.4	27	12	151.1

						Rushing				Receiving				Scrimmage
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
Career	Overall					614	3274	5.3	43	5	40	8.0	1	619	3314	5.4	44
	Alabama					381	1976	5.2	23	3	15	5.0	0	384	1991	5.2	23
	Oklahoma					233	1298	5.6	20	2	25	12.5	1	235	1323
*2016	Alabama	SEC	FR	QB	15	191	954	5.0	13	0	0		0	191	954	5.0	13
*2017	Alabama	SEC	SO	QB	14	154	855	5.6	8	1	-1	-1.0	0	155	854	5.5	8
*2018	Alabama	SEC	JR	QB	13	36	167	4.6	2	2	16	8.0	0	38	183	4.8	2
*2019	Oklahoma	Big 12	SR	QB	14	233	1298	5.6	20	2	25	12.5	1	235	1323	5.6	21

 

 

 

						Passing
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
Career	Overall					682	1047	65.1	9477	9.1	9.7	80	20	162.6
	Alabama					445	707	62.9	5626	8.0	8.6	48	12	148.8
	Oklahoma					237	340	69.7	3851	11.3	12.2	32	8	191.
*2016	Alabama	SEC	FR	QB	15	240	382	62.8	2780	7.3	7.4	23	9	139.1
*2017	Alabama	SEC	SO	QB	14	154	255	60.4	2081	8.2	9.3	17	1	150.2
*2018	Alabama	SEC	JR	QB	13	51	70	72.9	765	10.9	11.9	8	2	196.7
*2019	Oklahoma	Big 12	SR	QB	14	237	340	69.7	3851	11.3	12.2	32	8	191.2

29 minutes ago, greend said:

If they draft a quarterback this year anywhere near the first round it's not to have him backup Hurts (at least not long term)

Well if they aren’t willing to sit them for at least a year, that’s probably a mistake because each of these players is a project.  You can ruin a QB by starting them too soon.  So this year, probably third string.  Player in open competition the second year and loser replaces Minshew.  Might be a two year sit.  There has been real success from sitting QBs.  Mahommes, Romo, Rodgers, Favre, Warner, etc.  The rebuild won’t be finished this draft so that allows the project to grow into the role. 

Idc what QB we get. We just need someone else. 

11 minutes ago, austinfan said:

How many QBs do you think will actually go in the 1st rd this year?

I would say 3. QBs always get over drafted and the last 4 drafts have had at least 3 QBs go in the 1st round.

Edit: I could see Willis, Corral, Pickett, and possibly Strong all in the 1st.

20 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Such a great guy.  Would be in the top 5 of former Eagles I would like to kick back a beer with.

Read his book "Life is Magic." His story is crazy, but I agree, would love to spend a night out with the dude.

17 minutes ago, austinfan said:

How many QBs do you think will actually go in the 1st rd this year?

3-4. 4 would be the trade up into 30-32 to get the 5th year option on one of them. Corral and Pickett are 1st round locks. Willis is getting buzz for some reason. Strong has the opportunity Saturday to open a lot of eyes.

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Could’ve went with the bullets to dedicate to Washington’s sports history lol  

 The SJW's would be all up in arms over that one too. Warthogs is the way they should have went, or the Wolves and settle a few infringement cases.

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Well if they aren’t willing to sit them for at least a year, that’s probably a mistake because each of these players is a project.  You can ruin a QB by starting them too soon.  So this year, probably third string.  Player in open competition the second year and loser replaces Minshew.  Might be a two year sit.  There has been real success from sitting QBs.  Mahommes, Romo, Rodgers, Favre, Warner, etc.  The rebuild won’t be finished this draft so that allows the project to grow into the role. 

EVERY QB drafted this year should be sitting for a year.

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Malik Willis runs about as much as Hurts does, plays against scrubs, is less dynamic running with the ball, and even less accurate throwing it.  Who the F cares if he has a "cannon" for an arm if the cannon can't hit the broad side of a barn against terrible competition?

Folks are tired of Hurts after 20 NFL starts.  Draft Willis in the first round and you're tied to him for 4 years.  No thanks.

 

 

						Rushing				Receiving				Scrimmage
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
Career	Overall					366	2131	5.8	29	1	13	13.0	0	367	2144	5.8	29
	Auburn					28	309	11.0	2	0	0		0	28	309	11.0	2
	Liberty					338	1822	5.4	27	1	13	13.0	0	339	1835	5.4	2
*2017	Auburn	SEC	FR	QB	7	16	221	13.8	1	0	0		0	16	221	13.8	1
*2018	Auburn	SEC	SO	QB	5	12	88	7.3	1	0	0		0	12	88	7.3	1
*2020	Liberty	Ind	JR	QB	10	141	944	6.7	14	0	0		0	141	944	6.7	14
*2021	Liberty	Ind	JR	QB	13	197	878	4.5	13	1	13	13.0	0	198	891	4.5	13

 

 

 

						Passing
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
Career	Overall					388	618	62.8	5176	8.4	8.6	48	18	152.9
	Auburn					11	14	78.6	69	4.9	6.4	1	0	143.5
	Liberty					377	604	62.4	5107	8.5	8.7	47	18
*2017	Auburn	SEC	FR	QB	7	6	7	85.7	45	6.4	9.3	1	0	186.9
*2018	Auburn	SEC	SO	QB	5	5	7	71.4	24	3.4	3.4	0	0	100.2
*2020	Liberty	Ind	JR	QB	10	170	265	64.2	2250	8.5	9.0	20	6	155.8
*2021	Liberty	Ind	JR	QB	13	207	339	61.1	2857	8.4	8.4	27	12	151.1

						Rushing				Receiving				Scrimmage
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
Career	Overall					614	3274	5.3	43	5	40	8.0	1	619	3314	5.4	44
	Alabama					381	1976	5.2	23	3	15	5.0	0	384	1991	5.2	23
	Oklahoma					233	1298	5.6	20	2	25	12.5	1	235	1323
*2016	Alabama	SEC	FR	QB	15	191	954	5.0	13	0	0		0	191	954	5.0	13
*2017	Alabama	SEC	SO	QB	14	154	855	5.6	8	1	-1	-1.0	0	155	854	5.5	8
*2018	Alabama	SEC	JR	QB	13	36	167	4.6	2	2	16	8.0	0	38	183	4.8	2
*2019	Oklahoma	Big 12	SR	QB	14	233	1298	5.6	20	2	25	12.5	1	235	1323	5.6	21

 

 

 

						Passing
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Cmp	Att	Pct	Yds	Y/A	AY/A	TD	Int	Rate
Career	Overall					682	1047	65.1	9477	9.1	9.7	80	20	162.6
	Alabama					445	707	62.9	5626	8.0	8.6	48	12	148.8
	Oklahoma					237	340	69.7	3851	11.3	12.2	32	8	191.
*2016	Alabama	SEC	FR	QB	15	240	382	62.8	2780	7.3	7.4	23	9	139.1
*2017	Alabama	SEC	SO	QB	14	154	255	60.4	2081	8.2	9.3	17	1	150.2
*2018	Alabama	SEC	JR	QB	13	51	70	72.9	765	10.9	11.9	8	2	196.7
*2019	Oklahoma	Big 12	SR	QB	14	237	340	69.7	3851	11.3	12.2	32	8	191.2

Tough to compare when Hurts is playing with elite WR's, RB's, and O-Line while I'm sure no one can name any of Willis's teammates names

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I think the point of the rule isn't to have sham interviews but actual interviews with actual candidates who are minorities.  If every other person interviewed for the job is white and is given a serious interview, it might be a problem both in terms of compliance with the NFL's own rule and a discrimination claim.   Flores doesn't need a smoking gun to prove intent.  He needs a combination of anecdotal and statistical evidence.  

The $100,000 payments are problematic for the owner.  Florio discussed whether the payments could violate Federal sports bribery laws.  There is also a Florida anti-sports bribery law that is broader and probably applicable in my view.  Money is hard to hide if the person you gave it to wants to prove they got it from you.  

You are discussing this from different sides.   You are discussing the intent of the rule, which is the theory.  He is discussing the reality of the coaching carousel.  There's no legal tampering period where you can meet with coaches, but not officially sign anyone.  So, you are competing with all the other teams that have vacancies at the same time.  So, if you get the first guy you want to come in for an interview first, and he wows you... you can't officially sign him until you've met the quota of coaches to meet the Rooney Rule requirement.  And in the meantime, you watch that coach go to other teams and interview elsewhere.  To teams that might have already met that criteria and could sign him immediately.  So, how is a team to handle that?   Handshake and wink agreements when the coach leaves and then the team has to go through the process with other candidates, knowing they've already locked in the one they want.  

 

For me, the Giants situation doesn't seem like anything other than the reality of the new GM wanting to bring in a guy he was familiar with over a guy he had less familiarity with.  He brought in Daboll for 2 interviews and Frazier for 2 interviews... and in the midst of that was looking at some other candidates, but I think that was more due diligence, I think his decision was made when he took the GM job, and the leaning toward offensive HC put the bullseye pretty squarely on Daboll.  He'd have had to really screw it up to not get the job.  That doesn't mean it was racially motivated.  It was network and philosophy driven.   

 

The biggest question that remains for me on the race of head coaches is why are there so few minority OCs... that seems to be where the vast majority of HC candidates are coming from, so that's the pipeline that needs to be addressed. 

 

I think the bribery for losses accusation is the far more damaging one for the NFL.

Shocking.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/03/49ers-fan-in-coma-after-beating-outside-sofi-stadium/

1 minute ago, garingovt2000 said:

Tough to compare when Hurts is playing with elite WR's, RB's, and O-Line while I'm sure no one can name any of Willis's teammates names

Well, I would encourage you to go through his game footage then; he's running around like a scampering midget and trying to make chicken soup out of every play.  Most of his "great plays" you see him make do not translate to the NFL.  Works against 1 and 2-star recruits in small colleges -- it won't in the NFL

2 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Shocking.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/03/49ers-fan-in-coma-after-beating-outside-sofi-stadium/

I swear LA fans are the worst. They are bandwagoners and fair weather fans. they always have incidents at every dodgers and rams game. I went to the rams game in 2017 some dbag shoved an elderly man and his wife walking up the steps.  thankfully a bunch of fans were there to catch both. 

6 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Tough to compare when Hurts is playing with elite WR's, RB's, and O-Line while I'm sure no one can name any of Willis's teammates names

I give you Smith, but who are the other elite receivers and RBs??

11 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Idc what QB we get. We just need someone else. 

7 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Shocking.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/03/49ers-fan-in-coma-after-beating-outside-sofi-stadium/

Eagles' fans are the worst fans though.  Be careful coming to the Linc.  

15 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Well, I would encourage you to go through his game footage then; he's running around like a scampering midget and trying to make chicken soup out of every play.  Most of his "great plays" you see him make do not translate to the NFL.  Works against 1 and 2-star recruits in small colleges -- it won't in the NFL

I disagree.  Yes, a lot of making something out of nothing, but his line is atrocious and he gets a lot of immediate pressure.  But the throws he makes from a clean pocket are pretty darn good.  Throws guys open, with anticipation, unlike Hurts who does not throw with any anticipation or until guys are open, which is usually to late to make the throw.

12 minutes ago, Infam said:

I give you Smith, but who are the other elite receivers and RBs??

They are comparing college stats so 

Calvin Ridley

Josh Jacobs

Najee Harris

Jerry Jeudy

Henry Ruggs

Jaylen Waddle

CeeDee Lamb

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I disagree.  Yes, a lot of making something out of nothing, but his line is atrocious and he gets a lot of immediate pressure.  But the throws he makes from a clean pocket are pretty darn good.  Throws guys open, with anticipation, unlike Hurts who does not throw with any anticipation or until guys are open, which is usually to late to make the throw.

You and I are those two old people in Seinfeld, looking at that painting of Kramer    

 

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

You and I are those two old people in Seinfeld, looking at that painting of Kramer    

The other thing I like about him, quick reads when he throws to the middle of the field, eyes are up when he is running, and when he makes the commitment to go, he is not a boundary runner like Hurts, he gets up the field quickly and puts pressure on the defense.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Trade him hurts. He’ll be better in rookie season 3.0. It’s like when you upgraded with aol instant messenger.