2 hours ago, NCiggles said:

  If Flores was treated differently than everyone that interviewed after Daboll, then there is an issue. 

The Giants wanted Daboll to be their HC from day 1 and they interviewed Flores because they had to.  I'm sure he was treated differently.  I'd have treated him differently too.

2 hours ago, downundermike said:

Yep.  Once Hurts came out after half time and went 3 drives, 18 plays for 48 yards and 3 punts, it was clear we were not going to win that game and Sudfeld got his time he was promised.

You forgot that there was a drive in that group that started in Washingteam territory and they went backwards on 3 plays.   That was the last drive he played in, IIRC.

I guarantee a large portion of us in this room have interviewed knowing full well that the interviewer already had someone in mind, and that the interview was more of a formality.

Some times its about just getting your foot in the door and establishing a relationship (this is the opposite of suing every man, woman, and child involved in the interview)

It doesn't make it a "sham" it just makes it reality.  

 

And oh by the way, in doing all of this, Flores has thrown Belichick right under the bus.  Belichick is THE entire reason Flores is even coaching in the NFL.  Nice job, d head.

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I guarantee a large portion of us in this room have interviewed knowing full well that the interviewer already had someone in mind, and that the interview was more of a formality.

Some times its about just getting your foot in the door and establishing a relationship (this is the opposite of suing every man, woman, and child involved in the interview)

It doesn't make it a "sham" it just makes it reality.  

 

And oh by the way, in doing all of this, Flores has thrown Belichick right under the bus.  Belichick is THE entire reason Flores is even coaching in the NFL.  Nice job, d head.

When you, I, or anyone else gets interviewed for a position that they want to give to someone else it is a "sham" interview. That said if you force teams to interview people based on their color these things are going to happen.  They want who they want and I highly doubt they give a crap what color the guy they want is.

4 minutes ago, greend said:

When you, I, or anyone else gets interviewed for a position that they want to give to someone else it is a "sham" interview. That said if you force teams to interview people based on their color these things are going to happen.  They want who they want and I highly doubt they give a crap what color the guy they want is.

Not true at all

There is value in just getting an interview and establishing a connection.  

You might be able to change someones mind or at least give them something to consider.  Might even end up with another opportunity.

38 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Merchandise would be trippy 

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You are right in that.  I would assume that the Giants would be smart enough to keep up appearances.  But, maybe I am giving them too much credit.  

And as for the Broncos thing... I just have a REALLY hard time believing that they'd show up late or drunk, let alone both.

 

Maybe I am only seeing what I want to see though.  Maybe things are much worse than I imagine.

I am not assuming anything in any of the complaint is true.  I do think it's likely the Giants just preferred Daboll to Flores.  The decision in and of itself probably was never with meant with any racist intent.  It's just the impact of the decision may be discriminatory.  Racism is a charged word.  These are difficult cases to pursue.  I don't know if Flores has a leg to stand on anything more than a very superficial level.     

Eagles stalk the blog, I guess

Jermaine Johnson missed practice today (ankle), but is still planning to play in Saturday’s game.

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I am not assuming anything in any of the complaint is true.  I do think it's likely the Giants just preferred Daboll to Flores.  The decision in and of itself probably was never with meant with any racist intent.  It's just the impact of the decision may be discriminatory.  Racism is a charged word.  These are difficult cases to pursue.  I don't know if Flores has a leg to stand on anything more than a very superficial level.     

And... the decision making ALL future interviews less intense might also have happened, but once again doesn't make it racist or discriminatory either.  

 

Frankly, I hate all this stuff.  I just want sports completely isolated from all the stuff that swirls around and makes the world an ugly place.  But, for me, that was shattered as a teenager when the OJ thing happened... and even a little before that as a youngster with the death of Pelle Lindbergh.

Zappe with the fade for TD 

 

Smart move , he will take over for Bruce in a year 

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I think Leftwhich is an overrated candidate. The Bucs were inefficient, but had Brady so it didn't matter.

That said, picking Baalke over any HC candidate is absurd.

13 minutes ago, RLC said:

I think Leftwhich is an overrated candidate. The Bucs were inefficient, but had Brady so it didn't matter.

That said, picking Baalke over any HC candidate is absurd.

Inefficient ? How so

they have been a top offense 3 years in a row under leftwich 

https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-offense-first-down-play-calling-play-action/

Someone mentioned Washington Commandants?  Is this the head coach or the owner?

 

4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Malik Willis has a bad habit of lifting his plant foot upon release.  He’s definitely got a strong arm and can drive the ball.  I bet a pro QB coach will get more out of his arm when they clean that base up a little.  

If I had to rank QB's and had to pick one available, I would have them Strong, Willis then Pickett.

Willis not good on that competition 

Zappe looked good 

Watching Willis, has all the physical tools, and has Josh Allen type potential.  A couple things from this video.

First throw, just drives the ball, can not teach that.

Now for some more nuanced things.

2:40, pre snap recognition.  Looks at the WR to hold the safety, but has already diagnosed the RB to the flat, ball is out quickly for the TD.

3:00, sees the out and up route, the second the WR plants to drive upfield the ball is out.

 

 

24 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Inefficient ? How so

they have been a top offense 3 years in a row under leftwich 

https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-offense-first-down-play-calling-play-action/

Running on 2nd and 10 for a 3rd yard gain, for Brady to convert a 3rd down is not "good process". Some teams are elevated by playcalling (SF, ATL), some aren't (CIN).

I still take Corral over the rest 

Just now, RLC said:

Running on 2nd and 10 for a 3rd yard gain, for Brady to convert a 3rd down is not "good process". Some teams are elevated by playcalling (SF, ATL), some aren't (CIN).

Much deeper than that 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Watching Willis, has all the physical tools, and has Josh Allen type potential.  A couple things from this video.

First throw, just drives the ball, can not teach that.

Now for some more nuanced things.

2:40, pre snap recognition.  Looks at the WR to hold the safety, but has already diagnosed the RB to the flat, ball is out quickly for the TD.

3:00, sees the out and up route, the second the WR plants to drive upfield the ball is out.

 

 

He seems like a cross between Allen and Lamar Jackson. I mean as prospects, not what they are now. 

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Pretty funny, Howard Eskin was on WIP just now saying the Eagles weren't tanking the 2020 game against Washington and were actually trying to win it the whole time. According to him Doug promised Sudfeld the entire second half to showcase his talent since he was a free agent to be, but went with Hurts for the 3rd Quarter to win the game, and then only went to Sudfeld because he practiced all week and was promised playing time. 

 

Eagles trying hard to distance themselves from Tankgate with that explanation. 

That's pretty much what happened...it's well documented.

30 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I guarantee a large portion of us in this room have interviewed knowing full well that the interviewer already had someone in mind, and that the interview was more of a formality.

Some times its about just getting your foot in the door and establishing a relationship (this is the opposite of suing every man, woman, and child involved in the interview)

It doesn't make it a "sham" it just makes it reality.  

 

And oh by the way, in doing all of this, Flores has thrown Belichick right under the bus.  Belichick is THE entire reason Flores is even coaching in the NFL.  Nice job, d head.

It's a common experience.  From a legal standpoint, it could be discriminatory is there's a racial disparity and only the minority candidates are having the interviews that are just formalities.  Part of what seems to be going on is that teams are complying with the letter but not the intent of the Rooney rule.  Maybe the Rule is the problem.  Maybe there is a better process that leads to better outcomes.