Draftgasm

 

 

Gardner, Booth and Stingley were all off the board at 15. Traded down with the Bills. Pierce was off the board at 83, otherwise I’d have reunited him with Ridder. Think this draft addresses every need in some regard. 

14 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Draftgasm

 

 

Gardner, Booth and Stingley were all off the board at 15. Traded down with the Bills. Pierce was off the board at 83, otherwise I’d have reunited him with Ridder. Think this draft addresses every need in some regard. 

 

As usual, the point was missed, part of the "dead" money is money created by restructuring, which is then rolled over to 2022, in effect negating the dead money created by restructuring.

And who cares about 2022, it's not like we're in the market for $50M in FAs (and I hope we never are). We can afford one or two if needed, but we should be focused on adding talent in the draft, and off the waiver wire right now.

5 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Someone was talking earlier about Hurts being part of a trade package for Russell Wilson.  While this is true I think Hurts could also be part of a trade package for Carr or Garoppolo as well.  Niners would need a QB as a backup for Lance, and the Raiders would need a QB in exchange if they decided to move on from Carr.

They’d all be downgrading 

Was watching some clips of the game and there's one that has Stoll wide open and of course it was missed. He had no one around him for 20 yards. If he catches it, he easily picks up 20-30 yards. 

PLEASE get an actual QB that can read the field.

8 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

Bucs played 4 TEs twice Sunday , both times for  TDs  ,  I expect to see more of that , and more hurry up ….Perriman can run by the CB , so can Miller , Johnson plays more in traffic , nice route runner  ,If Fournette is healthy , he should see 20 touches 

7 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

If you were to read a scouting report on JoJo Domann,  youd think you are reading about Nakobe Dean. Domann might be slightly bigger. Probably the reason he is projected so much lower is that he is an old prospect. 6th year senior. In the 3rd round, Ill take it. 

 

 

Big jojo fan , care less about his age , top cover backer , probably top instincts too , stud 

8 hours ago, austinfan said:

As usual, the point was missed, part of the "dead" money is money created by restructuring, which is then rolled over to 2022, in effect negating the dead money created by restructuring.

And who cares about 2022, it's not like we're in the market for $50M in FAs (and I hope we never are). We can afford one or two if needed, but we should be focused on adding talent in the draft, and off the waiver wire right now.

Dead money is not money that is "created".  It is money that is overspent.

You act like FA is the only way the team can overspend on players.  They overspent on Brooks, and its about to bite them in dead money after biting them in money that was sitting on IR for the past 2 seasons.  And then theres the money they gave to Desean, which we are just finishing paying off, a year after he was gone.  Paid a premium to him rather than playing him on the deal he had when we traded for him.  So not a FA, technically but still vastly overpaid. (I might add, he cost the Eagles more this past season and played zero snaps here than he did for either team he actually suited up for this year.)  Or Malik Jackson whom was also dramatically overpaid by Howie as a waiver wire transaction.  Or Alshon whom they over paid to resign and then poorly restructured... twice.

The dead money is money that causes the team to have LESS available to spend compared to the rest of the league right now.  It is bad management. And thats why the big signings this past year were Anthony Harris, Eric Wilson and Ryan Kerrigan.  Great bargains for guys that cant play a lick.  Theres a happy medium between that and overpaying for others.

Remember Malcolm Jenkins, Jon Runyan, Connor Barwin, Carlos Emmons... good free agents paid at market value.  They all actually contributed too.  Thats what you look for in FA, not just bottom of the barrel scrubs that are all you can fit under the cap, but can't actually help the team other than to fill up a uniform.

7 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

are you familiar with the player?

The player himself is irrelevant in my view because there's no sure thing in the draft any way.  But when I'm drafting that early, I want to be drafting people that I hope will develop enough to earn their second contract, which is all the harder to do when their second contract will cover their decline years.  I'm fine if you want to use later picks on older guys because they are typically depth guys who pull off a minor miracle just by lasting through their rookie deal but not in the third.

2 minutes ago, Peppersmacks said:

The player himself is irrelevant in my view because there's no sure thing in the draft any way.  But when I'm drafting that early, I want to be drafting people that I hope will develop enough to earn their second contract, which is all the harder to do when their second contract will cover their decline years.  I'm fine if you want to use later picks on older guys because they are typically depth guys who pull off a minor miracle just by lasting through their rookie deal but not in the third.

Right now any player that lasts to a second contract is a minor miracle with this team.

14 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Oof

Sorry Baldy but, with a better throw he hits the open man which is Reagor in the middle. Also he broke the pocket way too early again. 

14 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Except Reagor did win; he fought inside and Dean almost fell down.  The throw is wide open as a 5-yard gain.

EDIT -- Dean DID fall down, and Reagor is WIDE F'N OPEN, RIGHT IN FRONT OF HURTS!!  Throw the ball instead of rolling right and that's at least a 15 yard gain (if Reagor catches it).  

Exactly

14 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Reagor couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. In terms of a sports thing only I can't stand that guy. Easily in my top 3 for most disliked players. He's trash.

He was open, watch it again, that was 100% on Hurts

14 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He does that A LOT.   And kudos to the Bucs forcing him left in so doing.  They really put a wall to his right side of the pocket on most plays.   They left the left side as his exit... and he looked very uncomfortable.   VERY... uncomfortable.  

 

And that throw when he escaped left that turned into a pick on the double move by Smith...  a QB with a 'plus' arm gets that ball past the safety for the TD.  A QB without a plus arm needs to anticipate that the WR will be open on the double move and chuck it before he escapes the pocket.

14 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

ESP already spouting off how all the Eagles need is an elite QB and elite pass rush next year to win the Super Bowl

 

 

I agree with him

13 minutes ago, greend said:

I agree with him

Nah... they need a little more than that.  At least 1 LB and safety would be helpful.

8 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Lightweight team that was made to look middleweight due to a last place schedule.  I would say he is dead on with that comment.   They believed it and did little to adjust.  Sitting players the last game of the season, pretty much supports that.  
 

You’re wrong.  Again.  

The "last place schedule" was 2 games--no rational human being was fooled by the Jets and Lions games.  Trash take.

This is the "Im not employed but am definitely smarter than the coaches who are" account.  

Pretty sure he said not starting Hurts in 2022 is "fireable"...

And again, what, exactly, was Sirianni supposed to do to adjust?  He tried running every which way, screens, downfield shots, Hurts was just incompetent

7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Flores at the Giants would be a dream

The players would love having another Joe Judge walk through the door

35 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Nah... they need a little more than that.  At least 1 LB and safety would be helpful.

You get those 2 and it goes a long ways to winning a super bowl. Yes, we need a safety but that doesn't have to be elite. Just imagine this year if we had a pass rush and an elite qb. Instead we had a weak pass rush and a J.V. Quarterback

14 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s cause we’ve entered a time loop where it’s fashionable again to defend the QB at all costs. Fans did it with wentz (myself included at times) we’ve just moved it onto hurts because fans are desperate to have a franchise Qb. So they want to anoint him. 

At least Wentz had at least 1 great year and a good year or so.

8 hours ago, downundermike said:

Not exaggerated, it’s a fact.  50 million in dead cap is gross mismanagement 

It’s elite GM-ing !

13 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I post this once per year and get bashed for it, which I generally enjoy:

I have minimal particular hatred for Dallas.  The dynasty-level Cowboys spoiled things for the Eagles only for a few years at the very beginning of my fan consciousness.  Other teams have done us far worse in my lifetime.  I enjoy Texas too.  For most of my fan lifetime, the Cowboys have been irrelevant.  How can you breed hatred amidst irrelevance?

Give Cowboy fans some credit...anyone still following that team at this point is no front-runner.

Okay, have you met any cockroach Dallas fans? When the season begins and they are winning they're all wearing their gear talking about "how bout dem boyz" bragging when the cowboys beat us yada, yada, yada, yack, yack, yack. After yet another loss in the playoffs or if the Eagles beat them suddenly they shut up and have nothing to say and their gear goes back into the closet until next year.

 

Not to mention the national media slurping over them at the beginning of every season.

 

Most of my in-laws are Cowboys fans because they jumped on the band wagon when the cowboys used to be good (not one of them is from Texas originally (some have moved there now).  They just so desperately want the Cowboys to be relevant again so they can trash talk. 

13 minutes ago, greend said:

You get those 2 and it goes a long ways to winning a super bowl. Yes, we need a safety but that doesn't have to be elite. Just imagine this year if we had a pass rush and an elite qb. Instead we had a weak pass rush and a J.V. Quarterback

Absolutely... But that alone isn't enough.    I'm not asking for elite safety or linebacker play, but 'competent' would be nice.  That would also be a major upgrade over what we've seen this year.  Pass rush - not good enough.  LB play - not good enough.  Safety play - not good enough.

 

We were definitely hampered more by the QB than anything else.   But we are more than just maybe 3 players away... (1 QB, and 2 pass rushers).     An elite QB can cover up for a lot... but Justin Herbert (who is on the verge of elite, IMO) wasn't enough to make up for the Chargers' woes (including their coach's insanity of going for it too much... including his own 28 yard line).

13 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Wow.   We are done.   No sane person could make that statement.  So, you are either insane, or you are forever a troll.   Good bye.

Seriously? It took you this long?

14 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s cause we’ve entered a time loop where it’s fashionable again to defend the QB at all costs. Fans did it with wentz (myself included at times) we’ve just moved it onto hurts because fans are desperate to have a franchise Qb. So they want to anoint him. 

Remember, Wentz had an elite season under his belt by that time.  We'd seen what he could be at his best...   What have we actually seen from Hurts as a QB?  

Just now, greend said:

Seriously? It took you this long?

.  every now and then I read those posts from folks I'd put on ignore to give them another chance.   But, you are right... I should have known better with him.  

10 hours ago, wussbasket said:

My concern with Strong is the caliber of the defenses he’s played against. I’ve really only watched his highlights, but vast majority of them he has a completely clean pocket and doesn’t move a whole lot. How can he adapt to getting pressured in the NFL? He doesn’t need to be a runner, but he needs to climb and navigate the pocket.

So he doesn't run away from a clean pocket? I love him already