12 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Aside from the QB issue, which just needs to be tabled for a little while, I really want to come out of this draft with a dangerous edge rusher.  That's where the value is.

Ojabo and Jermaine Johnson are two guys who have all of the upside of top 5 pick type edges, but will fall in a deep class (and due to some polish issues).  I want one of them in round 1.

Then...I want a speed WR in round 2-ish to be what Reagor was supposed to be.  Someone who can get deep...or someone with the quicks and moves to force them the ball at the LOS and turn it upfield.  Luckily, the round 2 range seems to be a sweet spot in this draft (and in many drafts) for that type.

OL...they need one eye open at all times.  Don't force it, but if the right guy is there, pull the trigger as soon as round 1 or 2.

 

Submitted for your approval … purty

 

 

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Didn’t the Eagles already try the converted WR with one year experience as a CB with Jacquet? 

Why should one failed experiment with a middling talent matter?

19 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

True. But in this case they weren't giving their draft analysis, just what the scouting community told them during the Senior Bowl.

They both still have Kayvon ranked as the #2 DE.

Any scout giving away how there team ranks the DEs to the press should be looking for a job. More likely they heard vague things like, "he’s impressive”.  When asked by McShay if he could go ahead of Thibodeaux, the scout answered "maybe, depends on how a team feels about him”.  ‘Tis the season of lies and misdirection.

3 minutes ago, The guy in France said:

Submitted for your approval … purty

 

 

Spoiler alert: E45 will not approve. 

Thought this was interesting. Only 12 Centers taken in the 1st round since 1980, none in the top 10, but its the easiest position to draft. This chart also indicates there's a slight uptick, in their definition of success, for QBs drafted in the 2nd round.

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Such a soft and weak minded action by another soft and weak minded Bish of a millennial athlete.  That's like having a fight with your girl and she posts some sideways ish on FB about being independent or something like that.  Only in an attempt to get all of her friends to ask her "are you ok" or say "you got this girl....".  What the f ever.  I hope that little calamari bish does try and go back to baseball.  I am sure a few years away from live action would do wonders for his game.  Good luck getting that money in the minor leagues in front of 5,000 fans every night.  

 

This is exactly the kind of BS Reagor/Hurts will/would pull.  Their soft arses are always in on the social media antics.  

I don’t think he goes back to baseball. Just that he and his agent will try use that to their advantage in negotiations of a new contract. The A’s still own his rights from when he was selected 9th overall. I believe he had to pay back $4 mil to the A’s when he went to play football. 

ESPN loading up on the 3s now. 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Why should one failed experiment with a middling talent matter?

Doesn’t. For example, the clip put up last year with Smith covering Slay exhibits that Smith has the fluidity capability of being a CB so it isn’t that no WR can play or convert to CB.  But the fact they point to him as a former WR as though it suggests something about ability to be a CB kind of irks me.  There are some pretty good WRs that would be awful CBs. And some bad WRs that would be even worse CBs. 

I think these draft simulation sites have DEVONTE WYATT unrealistically low. If he gets to the third round I will be shocked.

Also, no one has talked about JAQUAN BRISKER. That guy is all over the field. Plus, Penn State guys aren’t coached, so you can assume the upside potential.

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Doesn’t. For example, the clip put up last year with Smith covering Slay exhibits that Smith has the fluidity capability of being a CB so it isn’t that no WR can play or convert to CB.  But the fact they point to him as a former WR as though it suggests something about ability to be a CB kind of irks me.  There are some pretty good WRs that would be awful CBs. And some bad WRs that would be even worse CBs. 

I take the "former WR” comment more about his inexperience at the position. 

2 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

Kiper and McShay are saying that the buzz from the NFL community from the senior bowl is that Thibodeaux and Stingley could fall out of the top 5 and into the 10ish range.

And that the 2nd DE off the board could be Travon Walker from Georgia.

A bummer for me as he was becoming my fav DE target

With Thibodeaux, it's probably tough knowing you're a top 5 pick and being forced to play another year at that physical a position just because of some arbitrary rule. And if he sits out the year, he's labeled a bad teammate.

Interested to see how Will Anderson responds next year.

38 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Thought this was interesting. Only 12 Centers taken in the 1st round since 1980, none in the top 10, but its the easiest position to draft. This chart also indicates there's a slight uptick, in their definition of success, for QBs drafted in the 2nd round.

That's crazy

15 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

With Thibodeaux, it's probably tough knowing you're a top 5 pick and being forced to play another year at that physical a position just because of some arbitrary rule. And if he sits out the year, he's labeled a bad teammate.

Interested to see how Will Anderson responds next year.

Guys like Chase and Parsons opted out of their 3rd year, man was it a smart decision, and it had no bearing on their draft status or their "competitiveness"

26 minutes ago, SB52 said:

I think these draft simulation sites have DEVONTE WYATT unrealistically low. If he gets to the third round I will be shocked.

Also, no one has talked about JAQUAN BRISKER. That guy is all over the field. Plus, Penn State guys aren’t coached, so you can assume the upside potential.

Lots of people bring up Brisker actually.  He seems to be universally lauded among posters in here.  I like him, but he's firmly my third choice at S behind Hamilton and Hill 

Athletic has its top 75 FAs.  Only Eagle?

46. Derek Barnett, Edge, Philadelphia Eagles (26)

The good with Barnett: He’s young, he’s started 45 games, and he’s been productive at times. The bad: He’s coming off the worst season of his career in which he had more roughing the passer penalties (three) than sacks (2.5). Barnett’s career high for sacks is 6.5. He has flashed at times, but his film in 2021 was underwhelming. Interested teams will be gambling that Barnett’s best football is still ahead of him.

 

That’s pretty spot on.  

11 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I just got a subscription for that and read the article and the only thing I kept thinking there was a ton of Chiefs, Rams, Tampa and Packer players. 

I didnt do any science or actually count them but i feel every other name was one of those 4 teams

21 of the 75 are from those teams, but a bunch of those players are hired guns, not talent they groomed.

Fournette, JPP, Von Miller, Honey Badger, Gronk, Odell Beckham, 

• 
  15.
  Derek Stingley Jr.

  CB LSU
   
• 
  19.
  Devin Lloyd

  LB Utah
   
• 
  28.
  Jaquan Brisker

  S Penn State
  
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  51.
  Cameron Thomas

  EDGE San Diego State
   
• 
  83.
  Bailey Zappe

  QB Western Kentucky
   
• 
  121.
  James Cook

  RB Georgia
   
• 
  161.
  Charleston Rambo

  WR Miami-Fl
   
• 
  165.
  Jerrion Ealy

  RB Mississippi
   
• 
  207.
  Bubba Bolden

  S Miami-Fl
   
• 2023 GB 1st

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

I still don't know what to make of Karlaftis. He looks the part, is suppose to light up the combine, and BIG10 DEs are dominating the NFL.

Maybe I have too much PTSD from high motor DE picks from the past...

He has really good hands, so he rarely gets locked on and taken out of the play.  That being said he's a 'pressures' guy, which runs hot and cold with folks.  He's played a lot games, they move him from side to side for match ups - so I don't expect a huge leap in his production.  In terms of anchor against the run, I thought he was OK but can be beaten to the punch - not an ideal 4i, but fine for a base end - needs to be more thoughtful about backside contain.

Always liked him as a player. 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

21 of the 75 are from those teams, but a bunch of those players are hired guns, not talent they groomed.

Fournette, JPP, Von Miller, Honey Badger, Gronk, Odell Beckham, 

Fournette would be a good potential FA addition.  I don't know what the market for him will look like but he's someone that would be an upgrade over Howard in terms of a receiver.  He also should be relatively cheap.  There's also a few additions on the defensive side that could be good like Reddick, Jessie Bates or Marcus Williams.  

2 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

 

That's what the two gloves are for. 

2 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Exactly

Not moving up for him. Karlaftis and Walker and better players imho

Thibs is almost playing a different position from these guys, in my mind the question is - is he better than Ojabo at 3-4 OLB -or- do you get better bang for you buck later in the draft?  He moves very well laterally for running games, can attack an edge, but isn't a power player yet against good OLmen.  If he make that leap technique-wise he's a handful, otherwise he has a big hole in his game.

3 hours ago, Freshmilk said:

My opinion:He wants a new deal and AZ isn't clamoring to give him one yet.

Passive aggression, that's a great quality.

1 hour ago, wussbasket said:

Thought this was interesting. Only 12 Centers taken in the 1st round since 1980, none in the top 10, but its the easiest position to draft. This chart also indicates there's a slight uptick, in their definition of success, for QBs drafted in the 2nd round.

This chart should be required reading for fans that post in this Blog. 

 

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

This chart should be required reading for fans that post in this Blog. 

 

I'm very anti-Linderbaum. I'm not drafting a sub 300lb C in RD1. Picking a S/TE/C/LB in RD1 requires near perfect measurables for me due to positional value.