5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He would for sure being upgrade. But I can’t see Fangio being like yeah the Eagles my best option that’s where I want to go. There’s gonna be other teams that have better personnel and talent on defense that he much rather coach. That’s what this comes down too

Yup he'll be a hot commodity as a DC, he's a proven well respected DC and in sure there are plenty of other teams with better defensive talent than the eagles that would love to have him.

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

 

I am not assuming Fangio is coming to the Eagles.  I am just saying he would be better than Gannon.  There's also plenty of coordinators where a lot of time doesn't make a difference.  Again, I am not saying the defense was talented enough to be better.  I am saying they were veteran enough to run more disguised looks and to execute better blitzes.

You hit on one of the big concerns with Howie and the draft philosophy. They over value certain positions especially on defense. The easy pick in 2020 was Jeremy Chinn and he is who Schwartz wanted.  They could have taken Nassir Adderly or Juan Thornhill in 2019.  The team has repeatedly undervalued secondary and LBs on defense while over drafting at DE.  That philosophy needs to change.  If the team does not add young talent through the draft it won't matter who the coordinator is.  

100% agree that Fangio would be an upgrade. First off is one of the best defense of coordinators in the league. Secondly he’s had about 40 to 50 years of NFL experience as compared to Gannon. 

I get what you’re saying but just because they’re veterans doesn’t mean they’re good at disguising stuff or that’s their strength.  Jim Schwartz wasn’t some great disguiser of the blitz. He rarely wanted to rely on the blitz. Just because you’re a veteran does not automatically mean you’re going to be good at disguising blitzes or be good at blitzing.

Legitimately this Eagles team has not been a blitzing type defense since before Jim Schwartz came here.  There’s not enough data to confirm they would be better at that and not just get stifled and hit for more big plays down the field. 

7 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Let's say they lose Gannon to a HC job. Perhaps the lure to Fangio would be we have 5 picks in the first 83, and we'll use 3 or 4 of them on D if you come here to be our co-ordinator. And you get a say in who you want. 

I don't know if Lowie would concede that, but that would be a big part of the pitch, I imagine. 

Because other teams that have better personnel now and have draft picks they can invest can’t tell him that?  They might not have as many pics as the Eagles but they already have better personnel so they don’t need to invest as many picks because you’re already have proven talent. Additionally a team like the Giants can say the same thing to him. And they have two top 10 picks. 

Did Howie say they're sticking with Hurts?

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Did Howie say they're sticking with Hurts?

He gave some long winded BS answer.

Followed up with yes, but not sure what else he's supposed to say. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Because other teams that have better personnel now and have draft picks they can invest can’t tell him that?  They might not have as many pics as the Eagles but they already have better personnel so they don’t need to invest as many pets because you’re already proven talent. Additionally a team like the Giants can say the same thing to him. And they have two top 10 picks. 

The Giants would be insanely stupid to not focus on building their o-line. Also, depends on who the HC is there (unless they offer Fangio that position). What other openings are out there right now? And I'm not saying it would convince Fangio to come here, but the draft capital we have is enticing, regardless of who we have currently on roster. And maybe he wants to build up a defense from scratch. 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

He gave some long winded BS answer

Someone just asked again and Howie said it's Hurts for 2022

Howie should 100% back Hurts. There's no upside in doing anything else.

Smith deserves better

Fire Howie

9 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Did Howie say they're sticking with Hurts?

At this point he should, regardless of his actual intentions.

People are about to lose their minds in here.

Crazy how perception really alters reality. Hurts’ display this season should encourage folks but all I see here is trepidation and anger.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Smith deserves better

Fire Howie

 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

At this point he should, regardless of his actual intentions.

 

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Someone just asked again and Howie said it's Hurts for 2022

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

The Giants would be insanely stupid to not focus on building their o-line. Also, depends on who the HC is there (unless they offer Fangio that position). What other openings are out there right now? And I'm not saying it would convince Fangio to come here, but the draft capital we have is enticing, regardless of who we have currently on roster. And maybe he wants to build up a defense from scratch. 

I don’t disagree with you the Giants should do that. But that doesn’t mean they’re not gonna pitch him the same thing you’re pitching him.

those picks are enticing you know what also is enticing? Proven NFL talent along with draft picks. I think it’s very unlikely fangio at his age and this stage of his career is likely wanting to build a defense from basically scratch. 

Just now, Thrive said:

People are about to lose their minds in here.

Crazy how perception really alters reality. Hurts’ display this season should encourage folks but all I see here is trepidation and anger.

3 minutes ago, Thrive said:

People are about to lose their minds in here.

Crazy how perception really alters reality. Hurts’ display this season should encourage folks but all I see here is trepidation and anger.

 

 

How? He's hasn't improved with 2 off-seasons

Nick calling Watkins WR #2 and saying Reagor needs to be better = They Know

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

At this point he should, regardless of his actual intentions.

Yeah I don’t know what people expect him to say. No we’re not going forward with hurts and we’re gonna be in the market for a quarterback. How in the world does that help the Eagles and Howie Roseman whatsoever? If Anything that kills any leverage in that market. 

6 minutes ago, Thrive said:

People are about to lose their minds in here.

Crazy how perception really alters reality. Hurts’ display this season should encourage folks but all I see here is trepidation and anger.

There is nothing about what Hurts did this year that should encourage anyone.

Before Detroit - 10 TD's, 4 interceptions, 61.16 completion percentage

After Detroit, 6 TD's, 4 interceptions, 61.36 completion percentage.  This was against the bottom feeders of the NFL, and more interceptions on 68 less passing attempts.

Howie and Nick are saying exactly what they should say today, but if you think they are not looking at every QB option,  you are kidding yourself. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah I don’t know what people expect him to say. No we’re not going forward with hurts and we’re gonna be in the market for a quarterback. How in the world does that help the Eagles and Howie Roseman whatsoever? If Anything that kills any leverage in that market. 

Should have said "we're trying to get freaky at QB"

1 hour ago, RLC said:

Wonder if we can trade with Indy again. Indy's 2nd or 3rd + 2023 1st for one of our 1sts. Let the good times roll.

I’m with you there.

7 minutes ago, Thrive said:

People are about to lose their minds in here.

Crazy how perception really alters reality. Hurts’ display this season should encourage folks but all I see here is trepidation and anger.

 

 

Could you elaborate on what he's shown this season that should be encouraging?

3 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Could you elaborate on what he's shown this season that should be encouraging?

I think he means it should encourage us to drink more. 

Howie indirectly admitting that he lost course trying to address immediate needs in recent drafts.

 

 

The Brandon Brooks BS continues on into the offseason

7 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Could you elaborate on what he's shown this season that should be encouraging?

Someone fell and he helped them up

 

 

 

 

 

I can't stand listening to Siriani talk. He just goes on and on and you know he's blowing smoke.