1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

This could potentially go down as the worst day in the career of Daryl Morey” 

- Stephen A Smith

says Stephen A, the same guy who was saying they should have traded Ben already two weeks ago. 

36 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

He already opted in for 2022-23 season

I saw that, but only after I had made my post. I salute Morey.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Me neither.  He seemed to be a nice fit.  Losing Curry isn’t great either but they had to unload some salaries regardless, either now or in the off-season to make room for Harden’s (likely) upcoming max contract. 

Theyll have to trade Harris in the future to make room for that contract. They can sign him to his 5/260 extension but theyll be over the tax apron which is extremely limiting on how they can acquire players then. Basically limited to nothing but vet minimum signings at that point.

So likely Harris is eventually traded to get below the apron.

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I never wanted James Harden.  I hate Ben Simmons.  Happy he's gone, happier Maxey and Tyrese are still here.  

I CAN NOT wait to hear the reception Simmons gets his first and every game back at WFC.  He got upset getting booed as a Sixer...he has no idea what he has coming.

he wont step foot in that arena. Those will be rest nights for him and I bet he doesnt even take the trip on the team bus.

We gave up almost nothing to get Harden.  If we can make a move like this to put us legit in the championship discussion, and the biggest sting we feel is that we have to replace a backup center, it's a win.

The other first rounder we gave up doesn't even kick in until 2027

 

Just now, hukdonfoniks said:

We gave up almost nothing to get Harden.  If we can make a move like this to put us legit in the championship discussion, and the biggest sting we feel is that we have to replace a backup center, it's a win.

The other first rounder we gave up doesn't even kick in until 2027

 

Also protected in 2027 so if it’s top 8 two years in a row it reverts to second rounders 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Also protected in 2027 so if it’s top 8 two years in a row it reverts to second rounders 

Oh yes.  That too.  Reverts to two second rounders and I think $2 million.  

It's insane how anyone could be mad at this.  Meanwhile, Ben's going to melt down in the playoffs and I can't wait to see Durant then

Just now, hukdonfoniks said:

Oh yes.  That too.  Reverts to two second rounders and I think $2 million.  

It's insane how anyone could be mad at this.  Meanwhile, Ben's going to melt down in the playoffs and I can't wait to see Durant then

I dont think anyone is mad. The naysayer in this thread is a Jazz and Bucs fan. 

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I dont think anyone is mad. The naysayer in this thread is a Jazz and Bucs fan. 

Don’t forget habs fan , and I’m not mad about the trade , I just think it was one head case for another , and I think for as much as sixers may have improved , they improved Brooklyn more 

let’s wait and see how season wraps up 

2 hours ago, justrelax said:

The guy they'll miss is Drummond. He gave them high quality minutes as backup center and filled in admirably when Embiid was rested. Curry will not be missed because they're getting a lot more scoring with Harden and he is marginally better than Curry as a defender. It's huge that they kept their young guards. The only way this trade bites them in the ass is if they can't keep him after this season. I don't think the draft picks amount to much. The first (2022 or 2023) will not be close to a lottery pick and the second (2027 or 2028) is pick-protected.

He's picking up next year's option as part of the deal. Which is great, b/c I don't want to sign him long-term. Instead, you can get Harris and Harden off the books the next two to three years and have that money available (after you extend Maxey and Matisse).

Wonder if Bassey will get a long look at backup center?

Drummond is a loss, but not a huge one, a great rebounder and a decent defender (good at protecting the paint but can't move well enough to challenge stretch forwards at the 3), but he has zero touch in the post and no shot. So he kinda constricts the offense when he's in. Better than Howard, but still limited.

I want to see more Bassey, Milsap is probably toast, Bassey is raw but so athletic, makes me thing of a young Noel with upside.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

Well for 2 seasons it was OK. As much as we ****ed about the offense, I do think a big part of the problem was Wentz and the lack of talent drafted for him.  I mean he had decent receivers for really parts of 2 seasons.  Wentz did not return to the same level of play and was stubborn about play calling.  

His staff was good at first and slowly deteriorated as time went on. I don't know who did what, but it's been said Howie helped put the initial staff together. I agree that Wentz and lack of talent was a big part. But part of it also falls back on Doug and what he did with his staff. Maybe 2020 wouldn't have been such a ish show if he could put together a decent enough offensive staff without having Lowie making him fire two guys who clearly weren't good enough and then have to grab bag 5 different guys because Doug had no answer to fill the OC role. 

23 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Don’t forget habs fan , and I’m not mad about the trade , I just think it was one head case for another , and I think for as much as sixers may have improved , they improved Brooklyn more 

let’s wait and see how season wraps up 

Everyone in Brooklyn and the media is suddenly going to forget everything about Ben and talk like this is a great fit and hes going to make them legit.

We will see how that works in playoffs where he sucks the most. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Everyone in Brooklyn and the media is suddenly going to forget everything about Ben and talk like this is a great fit and hes going to make them legit.

We will see how that works in playoffs where he sucks the most. 

Any sort of tight game at the end, Simmons won’t even be on the court or else the other team will just foul him and (likely) give up less points because of his horrid free throw %.

I’ve been mostly silent about Simmons this season but as a previous Simmons "supporter” I’d say I’m pretty disappointed in the way his career ended here.  
 

So much talent, upside and promise only to be dealt away because he doesn’t like the "pressure” associated with being a max-contract type of player  and the responsibility it comes with. (If you are a max contract player in the NBA; your team, the fans and the media will expect you to perform and act like a max contract player). 
 

 Unless he turns his attitude around, I doubt he gets another max contract anytime soon. Abandoning his team in the middle of what is likely Joel Embiid’s prime years just screams immaturity on a broad scale and I don’t think teams will risk that on a guy that still can’t make free throws or shoot beyond 10-15 feet.  Just a guess.  

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

he wont step foot in that arena. Those will be rest nights for him and I bet he doesnt even take the trip on the team bus.

 

No rest in the playoffs.  

8 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

No rest in the playoffs.  

itll be a mental health day then. Every day is a great day for mental health.

24 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Unless he turns his attitude around, I doubt he gets another max contract anytime soon. Abandoning his team in the middle of what is likely Joel Embiid’s prime years just screams immaturity on a broad scale and I don’t think teams will risk that on a guy that still can’t make free throws or shoot beyond 10-15 feet.  Just a guess.  

I'm hardly a basketball buff, but for how he's chosen to utilize his skills IMO he should be playing PF.  Swoop in off the wing, take a pass, and slam the ball down -- that's the only thing he's good at offensively from what I've seen.  If he's a good passer then let him pass once the defense sends help into the lane.  He's miscast as a PG -- no threat at all to shoot from the outside, and certainly not from 3-PT range.  His game needs to be attacking the hoop.

Having said that, he clearly doesn't care enough to work on or improve his game, so he might wash out of the league in 2-3 years.

We got James Harden for someone who was never going to play for us again. This is a steal. 

2 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

We got James Harden for someone who was never going to play for us again. This is a steal. 

Don't disagree but how long until Harden doesn't want to be here.  Headcase traded for smaller headcase.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Don't disagree but how long until Harden doesn't want to be here.  Headcase traded for smaller headcase.

In that case, our new headcase puts us 10x closer to a championship than our old headcase

 

6 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

We got James Harden for someone who was never going to play for us again. This is a steal. 

I consider it Harden for Curry and Drummond.  Simmons was thrown in to get the salaries to balance.

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

He's picking up next year's option as part of the deal. Which is great, b/c I don't want to sign him long-term. Instead, you can get Harris and Harden off the books the next two to three years and have that money available (after you extend Maxey and Matisse).

Wonder if Bassey will get a long look at backup center?

Shirley Bassey is 5’3”.

Morey was playing chess while everyone else was playing checkers.

As a Nets fan, meh.

Seemingly Ben should fit in well with KD and Kyrie, but he's a headcase and has always been overrated IMO.

Harden seems to have an issue every stop he makes, so we'll see.

11 minutes ago, Swoop said:

As a Nets fan, meh.

Seemingly Ben should fit in well with KD and Kyrie, but he's a headcase and has always been overrated IMO.

Harden seems to have an issue every stop he makes, so we'll see.

And he’s getting older so his lack of "conditioning” is showing more and more.