15 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Sorry.  I wouldn't be.  

Nor would I.

4 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Nor would I.

85% of statistics are made up!  Stop focusing on the hyperbole of the statement lol

5 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

85% of statistics are made up!  Stop focusing on the hyperbole of the statement lol

I agreed with your statement, up until the point that I disagreed, but other than on the point of our disagreement we are in complete agreement.

25 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Fine he's anything but 'media hyped'

He did get hype from the media.  That is not disputable.  The point you're missing is that fans will see a white guy and assume he is unathletic ( karalaftis). When the white guy gets media hype fans will begin to recognize he is legit (hutchinson).

 

For some reason you are taking that as a slight towards Hutch. I have no idea why.  The conversation is about Karalaftis and you took a wrong turn. 

If the Eagles were given the opportunity to trade picks #16 and 19 to get up to #4, would folks pull the trigger?  Going strictly by the NFL Trade Value Chart the points would add up:

Pick 16 -- 1,000 points

Pick 19 --    875 points

Pick 4 -- 1,800 points

 

You'd keep pick #15 and have the ability to draft a blue-chip prospect in the top 5 -- would you make the trade a month before the draft like the Eagles did with MIA last year, except in reverse?  Kyle Hamilton might be on the board, or Thibodeaux ... are there any other prospects folks would trade up to the top 5 for in this draft?   

Usually such a trade-up would be made with a QB in mind.  CAR at #6 is likely in the QB market, and a trade-up that high with a QB in mind would likely need to happen on the clock on draft night, so other teams don't have time to trade up in front of you.

Just wondering what folks put the odds at of Howie packaging up two of the first rounders for a move way up.

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

ya....no.  Watching him play is lackluster.  He's solid, nothing else.  100% of people here would be on board with trading all 3 picks to get Hutch and he's white.  So...

I wouldn't 

1 hour ago, Desertbirds said:

Mamula played in 77 games and had 31.5 sacks, 156 solo tackles, and 8 forced fumbles.

He is hardly the slug that Eagles' folklore would suggest.

But what if the team had drafted Warren Sapp instead? Then in 2000 drafted Ulackkkerz instead of Corey Simon? 

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

But what if the team had drafted Warren Sapp instead? Then in 2000 drafted Ulackkkerz instead of Corey Simon? 

Then the butterfly effect hits and the Eagles end up like the Lions.  

5 hours ago, Utebird said:

Why would one trade Jordan Mailata anyway???

LT is the second most important position In football and is a premium position league wide.

If I'm trading a young up and coming LT on a pretty friendly contract and taking a cap hit to do it I better get more than a disgruntled declining old qb with a busted finger.

And I better be damn sure his replacement is just as good or better, which Dillard isn't so...

 

We wouldn't trade Mailata, it's one of the silliest things I read in here in awhile and the amount of talk about it is surprising. 

Mailata is more valuable than Wilson. I would not trade 5 years of above average QB play for a potential decade plus of dominant LT play. 

2 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Mailata is more valuable than Wilson. I would not trade 5 years of above average QB play for a potential decade plus of dominant LT play. 

No one outside of Philly would agree with this for 2 seconds… come on. 

12 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

We wouldn't trade Mailata, it's one of the silliest things I read in her in awhile and the amount of talk about it is surprising. 

I've only seen one person suggesting it.  

11 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Mailata is more valuable than Wilson. I would not trade 5 years of above average QB play for a potential decade plus of dominant LT play. 

Where'd you get your midnight green colored glasses?

Just now, schuy7 said:

Where'd you get your midnight green colored glasses?

From your mom

12 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Mailata is more valuable than Wilson. I would not trade 5 years of above average QB play for a potential decade plus of dominant LT play. 

I don't think Mailata has dominated yet.  He's a good player on a good deal for the team at an important position.  I am not sure why anyone would think he should be traded.  He's not the same caliber as Wilson.  

30 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Then the butterfly effect hits and the Eagles end up like the Lions.  

Or the Bears

The Eagles made their decision at LT when they gave Mailata a 4 year/$64M contract.  Dillard will logically be traded as a result.  Any thoughts that the Eagles would move Mailata and eat dead money, just because he might be a more valuable trade piece is seriously over-thinking (or under-thinking) the roster.

59 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I've only seen one person suggesting it.  

There's been back and forth and people chiming in on it all day 

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

There's been back and forth and people chiming in on it all day 

How many are in favor that you've seen?

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

How many are in favor that you've seen?

I'm just saying, it's not a topic worth an all day discussion so I'm surprised it lasted this long. 

I criticize Mailata more than most…his pass protection needs work.

And I lean negative, to put it mildly.

But I don’t think the notion of Mailata being more valuable than Wilson is crazy.

A 24 year old LT with all pro potential is more valuable than a QB on the downswing of his career. Wilson is a great QB, but he’s not Brady. He isn’t playing into his 40s. 

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

He did get hype from the media.  That is not disputable.  The point you're missing is that fans will see a white guy and assume he is unathletic ( karalaftis). When the white guy gets media hype fans will begin to recognize he is legit (hutchinson).

 

For some reason you are taking that as a slight towards Hutch. I have no idea why.  The conversation is about Karalaftis and you took a wrong turn. 

Lol what?  Karalaftis has been a pretty hyped coming into this previous season.  He was the #3 DE prospect everywhere, now he's in some murky water amongst a few other guys for who's clearly the best after Hutch.

The point you're missing is that I disagreed with the 'see this...assume that' statement you made.  Probably shouldn't have used the hyperbole and just said Hutch exists, so here we are.

2 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Lol what?  Karalaftis has been a pretty hyped coming into this previous season.  He was the #3 DE prospect everywhere, now he's in some murky water amongst a few other guys for who's clearly the best after Hutch.

The point you're missing is that I disagreed with the 'see this...assume that' statement you made.  Probably shouldn't have used the hyperbole and just said Hutch exists, so here we are.

I agree.

7 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Lol what?  Karalaftis has been a pretty hyped coming into this previous season.  He was the #3 DE prospect everywhere, now he's in some murky water amongst a few other guys for who's clearly the best after Hutch.

The point you're missing is that I disagreed with the 'see this...assume that' statement you made.  Probably shouldn't have used the hyperbole and just said Hutch exists, so here we are.

yeah... well... you and I saw it with Kuechly. Didnt matter how athletic he was, people all year long said he wasnt. Combine happened and he got hype and people started to believe.

It happens. 

Karalaftis is an incredible athlete. People will start to realize after the combine.

I dont think he has a lot of bend so he doesnt turn the corner as agile as elite speed rushers can. So, thats the one thing that is comparable to Barnett. Otherwise, theyre very different because Karalaftis is actually athletic. Thats all true. Cant deny it regardless of any irrelevant Hutchinson hyperbole.

By the way, Im not very impressed by Karalaftis. But I dont think he compares to Barnett well at all.