9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I do. Schwartz had the same cupcake schedule of weak QBs last season as Gannon had this season. And the personnel were similar.

Yet Gannon's defense clearly outperformed Schwartz's defense by a substantial margin.

So we ignore 2019 when the eagles defense didn’t have that good personnel along with injuries and Schwartz got as much out of them as Gannon? Or 2018 when they had a rash of injuries in their secondary? It’s great that you like to ignore that Schwartz did it for two years before the wheels completely fell off in 2020. And I would argue at least Schwartz when he was doing it would have at least one game in a year that was actually good against a playoff caliber team. The Eagles this year in every game they faced a playoff caliber team, got destroyed. 

1 minute ago, Saltpeter said:

We're so going edge rusher, OL, and trade out in the 1st this year.

YUP.  That's what this sounds like to me because I sure as hell don't know what he considers successful.

Side note, I want to punch his face. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

We're so going edge rusher, OL, and trade out in the 1st this year.

Give me Ojabo and Linderbaum and I'd be happy with that.

 

 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He was not good against playoff over .500 teams in the regular season. This was it just a playoff game he wasn’t good playoff caliber team.

 

12 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I do. Schwartz had the same cupcake schedule of weak QBs last season as Gannon had this season. And the personnel were similar.

Yet Gannon's defense clearly outperformed Schwartz's defense by a substantial margin.

100% False

Second half the Eagles played Mayfield, Wilson, Rodgers, Murray, Prescott.

Second half this year we played backups and practice squad QB's.

 

8 minutes ago, Thrive said:

I’m not biting.

Because you can not dispute those facts.

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He was not good against playoff teams in the regular season. This was not just a playoff game thing. he wasn’t good playoff caliber teams. you want me to give you the stats from playoff teams he faced during the regular season. Here’s what the numbers were

They scored 19.8 ppg in the regular season against playoff teams. That includes a bunch of garbage time touchdowns like When they were down 41-14 to Dallas with 3 mins to go and scoring a td. Or a td with less than 30 seconds against the chiefs down 19 points. Or down 19 points to the raiders and scoring a td with just under 4 mins to go and the game was decided. When you take all those hallow tds away it’s down to 15.4 ppg. 

You can keep playing this is his first playoff game is always hard and rough. However they look bad against playoff teams all Fing year. It wasn’t just a Defense that sucked in those games. the offense besides the Chiefs game wasn’t good for a large majority of those games. It could just be he’s not good against good teams and neither was the offense. 

Joe Burrow seemed to be OK his first playoff game. I wonder why?

Also, this playoff game isn't a one off. It was the same mistakes/issues that have plagued Hurts all year, it was just magnified because of the stage. Let's not pretend he had "one bad game" and should consider at such. He had terrible year as a passer, a good year as a runner. We need to upgrade QB, there's no way around it. And him coming back for another year to see if he can improve is not an upgrade. 

7 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

We're so going edge rusher, OL, and trade out in the 1st this year.

Trading for a future 1st to protect against Hurts = 👍👍👍

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

They shouldn't necessarily build around Hurts but more for the offense Sirianni wants to run. I highly doubt he came here to run a run first offense.

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Joe Burrow seemed to be OK his first playoff game. I wonder why?

Also, this playoff game isn't a one off. It was the same mistakes/issues that have plagued Hurts all year, it was just magnified because of the stage. Let's not pretend he had "one bad game" and should consider at such. He had terrible year as a passer, a good year as a runner. We need to upgrade QB, there's no way around it. And him coming back for another year to see if he can improve is not an upgrade. 

 

"Hope is not a strategy."...Howie Roseman

 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

100% False

Second half the Eagles played Mayfield, Wilson, Rodgers, Murray, Prescott.

Second half this year we played backups and practice squad QB's.

 

Because you can not dispute those facts.

The other thing he casually forget is that Darius slay last year was in and out of games. Missed a week or two. The Eagles were literally sending out practice squad players to play corner in games. Nelson and slay played every game this year except week 18 Dallas. And McCloud got hurt and their safeties were Epps, Wallace and whatever other garbage they had out there at safety.

 the Eagles defense was this year lost graham it was nowhere close to the crap that they had going on last year

 

 

The Eagles fingers

 

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I do. Schwartz had the same cupcake schedule of weak QBs last season as Gannon had this season. And the personnel were similar.

Yet Gannon's defense clearly outperformed Schwartz's defense by a substantial margin.

Schwartz had Gilbert, Siemien and Fromm/Glennon?  Plus he went against a rookie like Wilson who’s worse than Tim Couch?   Possibly, I’d have to see the schedule.

 

10 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Fastest defense he had seen all year, except for the TB defense he faced earlier in the year 🤡🌏

 Besides that fact, his 2nd interception that was tipped and caught by a one legged Shaq Barrett, Hurts was on his toes and jumped when he threw the ball, why?  He couldn’t see over his own linemen, and theirs which is why he typically runs, and spins in circles.

If the defense puts 8-9 in the box, plus your 5 guys and possibly a TE, and you can’t see over all those helmets, you can’t throw the ball over the middle, pretty f’n much common sense.  
 

 

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Joe Burrow seemed to be OK his first playoff game. I wonder why?

Also, this playoff game isn't a one off. It was the same mistakes/issues that have plagued Hurts all year, it was just magnified because of the stage. Let's not pretend he had "one bad game" and should consider at such. He had terrible year as a passer, a good year as a runner. We need to upgrade QB, there's no way around it. And him coming back for another year to see if he can improve is not an upgrade. 

Exactly. This wasn’t him being bad because he was in his first ever playoff game. This was him being bad because this has been a consistent thing when he’s played against playoff teams this year outside of one game against the chiefs. That’s a trend

What are the cap implications of cutting Brooks at this point?

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Trading for a future 1st to protect against Hurts = 👍👍👍

Yeah I think that makes sense.

I just really hope they don't force DE and OL. If a stud is sitting there? Absolutely. But the last thing this team needs is getting saddled with another Barnett or Dillard (Okay, those 2 are startable NFL players and not total abominations like Reagor, but still...).

4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

What are the cap implications of cutting Brooks at this point?

15.7 dead and 3.7 saved if it is done after the start of the 2022 league year.  Same if he retires.

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

YUP.  That's what this sounds like to me because I sure as hell don't know what he considers successful.

Side note, I want to punch his face. 

 

 

Scouts: "We're not going to do something stupid."  

Howie:  "We don't go into a draft saying we're not going to do something.   Gotta keep an open mind." 

Scouts:  

Howie: "Give me Jalen Reagor." 

Scouts: "You mean Justin Jefferson." 

Howie:  "No, we have decided to do something stupid... we kept our options open and that's the move.  Jalen Reagor!"  

Scouts: 🤦‍♂️

Vikings: 🥳

49 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

100% agree that Fangio would be an upgrade. First off is one of the best defense of coordinators in the league. Secondly he’s had about 40 to 50 years of NFL experience as compared to Gannon. 

I get what you’re saying but just because they’re veterans doesn’t mean they’re good at disguising stuff or that’s their strength.  Jim Schwartz wasn’t some great disguiser of the blitz. He rarely wanted to rely on the blitz. Just because you’re a veteran does not automatically mean you’re going to be good at disguising blitzes or be good at blitzing.

Legitimately this Eagles team has not been a blitzing type defense since before Jim Schwartz came here.  There’s not enough data to confirm they would be better at that and not just get stifled and hit for more big plays down the field. 

Fangio is 63  and I think has only been coaching in the NFL since the mid-eighties.  I don't think he started coaching in the NFL at age 13.  

I am not talking about disguising blitzes as much as coverages.  They gave up a completion percentage of more than 80% to 5 different QBs.  Schwartz may have had a simple scheme but his man coverage and attacking d-line forced incompletions.  Gannon did not always have the DT's attacking.  He had DTs playing a read and 2 gap technique.  He also had zone coverages that were easy for QBs to read and know where the hole in the zone was going to be. This lead to easy completions.  It was more effective when he disguised coverages.  

My concern with the blitzing is that he blitzed as an afterthought and at a historically low level.  I don't think there was one 0 coverage blitz this season.   While that may not have made any difference, it shows an unwillingness to do anything other than play it safe.  

7 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Yeah I think that makes sense.

I just really hope they don't force DE and OL. If a stud is sitting there? Absolutely. But the last thing this team needs is getting saddled with another Barnett or Dillard (Okay, those 2 are startable NFL players and not total abominations like Reagor, but still...).

Ojabo is my target at EDGE. They can then go CB or Linderbaum, and trade down the 3rd pick.

Respect to Howie and Sirianni for being smart. 

 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

15.7 dead and 3.7 saved if it is done after the start of the 2022 league year.  Same if he retires.

We may have the option to claw back some of the bonus money. 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Here is how bad Reagor and JJAWful are.

Chris T. Jones second season, 70 catches for 859 yards and 5 TD's.

Reagor and JJAWful combined 5 seasons, 80 catches for 985 yards and 4 TD's.

This is fun, give me another crappy WR the Eagles have drafted and we will make a comparison.

 

Chris T. Jones would have been a great receiver but for a knee injury.  He had those 859 yards all in one season.  I think Jordan Matthews was OK.  If JJAW had approached Jordan Matthews in terms of production no one would be calling him a bust.  

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Respect to Howie and Sirianni for being smart. 

They endorsed Carson Wentz in the end of season PC last year.  Buckle up, new QB is coming.