#16 + 2023 1st for Wilson? Take that all day.

Heck throw in whichever one of Hurts/Minshew they want while you're at it.

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

That was the cost for Stafford last season.  Wilson is younger by 9 months and has been the better QB.  

The picks are better than what LAR gave up.  Detroit got 2022 and 2023 firsts.  Those were a next-year and a next-next-year pick.  Our two firsts would be a this-year and a this-year.  Much more valuable.

What would have to be offset is the value of Goff.  I'd argue that the better picks plus Hurts would do that.

22 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Donald. He was the true MVP, not Kupp.

As it stands right now if Kelce returns next season, would Seumalo move over and start at RG?

 

16 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

2 first for Wilson maybe if they can be split  but I still don’t want him 

I am not sure why he wouldn't be top target in terms of a trade. He's a top 5 to 10 QB that doesn't have any baggage.  He would make the team immediately better.  He puts them in position to win the NFC East and be a legitimate contender.  2 firsts this year doesn't prevent the team from adding needed talent to improve.    

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m not too worried about OL. Lane is the only starter who was a 1st round pick. 
 

Dickerson - 2nd

Seumalo - 3rd

Kelce - 6th 

Mailata - 7th. 
 

This is an OL that’s widely considered a top 3 OL in the league. 

And the guys who've actually played, Driscoll 4th, Herbig, UDFA, Opeta, UDFA, Dillard 1st.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

As it stands right now if Kelce returns next season, would Seumalo move over and start at RG?

If both are healthy, absolutely yes.

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

#16 + 2023 1st for Wilson? Take that all day.

Heck throw in whichever one of Hurts/Minshew they want while you're at it.

Gotta be Hurts. It would be a tough sell to bring in a guy at QB like Wilson/Watson with Hurts still on the team as a backup. 

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

That was the cost for Stafford last season.  Wilson is younger by 9 months and has been the better QB.  

I'm happy he got a ring but I don't think they got the ring because of him. There were a bunch of questionable throws by him IMO

Just now, NCiggles said:

I am not sure why he wouldn't be top target in terms of a trade. He's a top 5 to 10 QB that doesn't have any baggage.  He would make the team immediately better.  He puts them in position to win the NFC East and be a legitimate contender.  2 firsts this year doesn't prevent the team from adding needed talent to improve.    

If Wilison couldn't make the Seahawks a contender the last five years, what makes you think he can do so here, given all the holes on the current roster?

49-32, 10-6 average, 1-3 in the playoffs:  two WC losses, 1 Div loss, 2 PO misses. So we improve from 9-7 to 10-6.

Wilson isn't going to make this team into a legitimate SB contender.

The difference with the Rams is they were already a SB contender, Stafford was an incremental improvement.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm happy he got a ring but I don't think they got the ring because of him. There were a bunch of questionable throws by him IMO

The guy is fourth all-time in passer rating.

His rating before the injury last season was 125.

Just getting a guy who will make sure Smith get's fed is worth the picks.

 

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

The picks are better than what LAR gave up.  Detroit got 2022 and 2023 firsts.  That's a next-year and a next-next-year pick.  Our two firsts would be a this-year and a this-year.  Much more valuable.

What would have to be offset is the value of Goff.  I'd argue that the better picks plus Hurts would do that.

Arguably Wilson is the better player as is Goff.  I agree with you but also I think the team would be better off trading 2 firsts this year vs. 1 this year and 1 next year.  

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Bengals should have done more than 31 plays for 61 yards after they took the lead.  Keep scoring and take the refs out of it.  And if the refs did their job, Bengals would not have taken the lead on the first play of the second half, and we would not even be having this discussion.

Oh no doubt.  Bengals offense was absolutely anemic other than the one big play to open the second half.  They absolutely should have put that game away.   

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

The guy is fourth all-time in passer rating.

His rating before the injury last season was 125.

Just getting a guy who will make sure Smith get's fed is worth the picks.

 

I was talking about Stafford. I think you're talking about Wilson?

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

If Wilison couldn't make the Seahawks a contender the last five years, what makes you think he can do so here, given all the holes on the current roster?

49-32, 10-6 average, 1-3 in the playoffs:  two WC losses, 1 Div loss, 2 PO misses. So we improve from 9-7 to 10-6.

Wilson isn't going to make this team into a legitimate SB contender.

The difference with the Rams is they were already a SB contender, Stafford was an incremental improvement.

I trust Howie to completely fill the holes this offseason and make the team a contender with the addition of Wilson.  

 

There are more holes on this team but I think the O-line is a top tier o-line.  The receivers would be above average with the addition of one decent FA.  The defense has holes but the d-line is OK. The secondary and LB need talent.  I think they can do this through the draft.  

Dallas will lose players due to salary cap issues.  Their o-line is aging.   The Giants still have Daniel Jones.  Washington still needs a QB.  If the Eagles win the division, they have a decent chance at being the 1 or 2 seed.  Rodgers is leaving the Packers and likely the NFC.  Brady is retired.  The NFC South's best team may be Atlanta.  The Rams lack picks and will lose players due to salary cap and retirements.  SF has a question mark at QB.  The NFC is pretty wide open.  

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I trust Howie to completely fill the holes this offseason and make the team a contender with the addition of Wilson.  

I mean, Howie is his boy, but he apparently does not trust him to fill the holes on the roster around a QB.

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Arguably Wilson is the better player as is Goff.  I agree with you but also I think the team would be better off trading 2 firsts this year vs. 1 this year and 1 next year.  

Trade sounds fair, and it’s cap neutral. Good job. 

I wouldn’t have a problem with two firsts for Wilson. In essence it would be Wentz and a 1st, for Wilson and a third. Sounds fine by me. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Trade sounds fair, and it’s cap neutral. Good job. 

The key with maintaining salary cap neutrality is the water.  You want to make sure the water isn't too akaline because that will raise the Ph of the Salary Cap in the trade.  Sometimes a 1/4 tsp of salt per gallon is necessary for salary cap neutrality. 

26 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm happy he got a ring but I don't think they got the ring because of him. There were a bunch of questionable throws by him IMO

He's better than Goff and that was enough.  Wilson is better than Stafford.  

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

There could be an argument made that Jalen Ramsey is a better player than Von Miller at this point in their career. But there’s no debate in which player was more impactful on Sunday. 
 

Also - the Bengals OLine is average, maybe below average. But where do they excell? QB, WR, DL… 

But who had the bigger impact on Sunday? Miller or Ramsey? 

On Sunday it was Miller but he was also going up against the Bengals biggest weakness (O-line).  Ramsey had to defend their biggest strength (WRs).  So I'd expect Miller to have a bigger impact in this game.

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I wouldn’t have a problem with two firsts for Wilson. In essence it would be Wentz and a 1st, for Wilson and a third. Sounds fine by me. 

Imagine how much better Quez Watkins becomes with one of the best deep ball throwers we’ve ever seen.

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The key with maintaining salary cap neutrality is the water.  You want to make sure the water isn't too akaline because that will raise the Ph of the Salary Cap in the trade.  Sometimes a 1/4 tsp of salt per gallon is necessary for salary cap neutrality. 

Or just manage it in Switzerland 

42 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

As it stands right now if Kelce returns next season, would Seumalo move over and start at RG?

He can compete with 1st round pick Kenyon Green for the RG starter spot. If Seumalo loses, he's the IOL swing guy. In my head, Seumalo can take over for Kelce next year and its:

Mailata-Dickerson-Seumalo-Green-Johnson

13 minutes ago, downundermike said:

No white WR with a beard.