The smoke around a Murray exit from Arizona is increasing everyday. I wonder what consideration if any would Lowie give to bring him here.

I do think we are one of the better fits for him, considering how dominant our O-line is, we can keep him from taking the volume hits that wear him down.

The QB carousel keeps spinning...

10 minutes ago, Thrive said:

It’s taken me a while to get to this point but I actually respect Carson now for his decision to leave Philly. He understood that remaining here was not good for him nor the team. I think it became clear to those who wanted to see in 2020 that Hurts was close to being a better player than current day Carson and by the end of the 2021 season, that happened.

My guess is Carson is more mature than we give him credit for. Staying in Philly would have created a crap storm of controversy in Training Camp (where I think Carson probably wins the QB competition against the wishes of his teammates) and another during the end of the season (when Hurts inevitably takes over again as the better player).

Plus Carson’s personality isn’t a fit for the ridiculousness that is the Philly fanbase. Crazily enough, Jalen (like BDN) was born to be this city’s QB.

He isn't even a fit for the Colts fan base, they have turned on him much faster than the Eagles fan base did. Wentz didn't decide to leave Philly to help out the team, he forced his way out.

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

The smoke around a Murray exit from Arizona is increasing everyday. I wonder what consideration if any would Lowie give to bring him here.

I do think we are one of the better fits for him, considering how dominant our O-line is, we can keep him from taking the volume hits that wear him down.

The QB carousel keeps spinning...

Great.  Can we please pay a shorter Jalen Hurts with a better, albeit erratic arm $40M+ every year??  Especially a malcontent -- even better.

2 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

While not wishing to go there, there are only so many snaps to go around, esp with a QB that doesn't go through many reads and what the team needs, is not another rookie high draft pick at WR. The WR room needs leadership, it needs someone whose game is refined to provide an example to Watkins and Reagor of this is how I run a route, etc. Jarvis Landry going to Cleveland provided a leader for the young WRs to follow. Sometimes you gotta do it that way.

By all means, look lower down in the draft for someone to develop, but another 1st round pick on WR is just making other areas of the team 1 more year away of getting better.

I'm sure the FO would heartily disagree, but I'd rather go CB, DE, DT in round 1/2 over WR again.

100%

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

If someone told me 100% the Eagles draft WR in the draft I’d prefer it be Round 3 or 4; someone a bit bigger to complement the smurfs we currently have.  Ezukanma, Justyn Ross, Pickens if he slides to Round 3, or Pierce from Cincinnati.  I agree with you, Round 1 isn’t where I’d make that pick.

Howie and Nick might see things a bit differently though.  Treylon Burks might be that big WR, Jameson Williams might be available at #19.

If they waste a first round pick on Drake London I may throw up.

We have a big hole at WbeardedwhitedudeR.

32 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I actually wouldnt mind this. I think Rhule is a dunce. I think the tried to throw way too much with Darnold. I think coming here and going run game first and then play action, (Ryan Tannehill jr). I think it would work out WAY better than what we have

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *gaspingforair* Did you just say you wanted to trade for SAM DARNOLD??!!

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So you want to get Wilson and then surround him with players that Howie us going to draft anyway?  Or are you suggesting we build the team around Wilson via free agency...with what cap space?  You think this team is built to win with Russel Wilson?  You think he wants to even come here?  With this Head Coach and front office?  

 

When Wilson is scratched off the list, who are you going to next?  Jimmy G?  Carr?  Just because those guys are better than Hurts doesn't mean it's a wise use of our equity.  

We have a decent nucleas- just need a few players. We are not using all our picks on WIlson, so between, some of our young guys progressing,  F/A, Howie hitting on 30% of his picks and getting lucky with some of the Undrafted players/ Waiver wire cuts near begginning of season, we could be alright. We made the playoffs with this current team, and then our weakest link in the chain was exposed, as we all thought he would be. Now give me Wilson- what do we do? 

 you know my list - Rodgers, WIlson, maybe Watson/Carr- After that you have to punt. Sure you still need a stop gap QB- (Hurts wont get it done)

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Great.  Can we please pay a shorter Jalen Hurts with a better, albeit erratic arm $40M+ every year??  Especially a malcontent -- even better.

Here’s a question that I think has been discussed around here ad nauseam: over the course of a 17 game season, would you take Nick Foles over Jimmy G, Joe Burrow or Stafford? Except for maybe Jimmy G, think the answer is no.

For a championship game, would you take Nick Foles over Jimmy G, Joe Burrow or Stafford? Yes sir and would sleep at night like a baby.

BDN is a super hero.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I hope zero.  If the rumors are true that he didn't want to go back in the game and is doing the whole social media signaling....then that is worse than what Wentz did (supposedly).  Yet I would doubt the media will kill Murray for it.  

 

I want nothing to do with that little squirt either.  

I agree. Most teams have a diva or two, but it can't be your QB. I want them confident, but cool, calm and collected...ala Joe Cool III.

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

You think Hurts is a better QB, today, right meow then Wentz?

Yes.

5 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Not wanting to pay "meh" players with bad attitudes truck loads of money is not negativity. 

Do you have one for 'prudent'?

14 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

The smoke around a Murray exit from Arizona is increasing everyday. I wonder what consideration if any would Lowie give to bring him here.

I do think we are one of the better fits for him, considering how dominant our O-line is, we can keep him from taking the volume hits that wear him down.

The QB carousel keeps spinning...

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/02/13/kyler-murray-colt-mccoy-wild-card-loss

No thank you. Don't want a player that is going to quit on his team in a playoff game. Don't care if the game is out of reach, when the face of the franchise wants to throw a hissy fit and refuse to play, you stay far far away.

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

The smoke around a Murray exit from Arizona is increasing everyday. I wonder what consideration if any would Lowie give to bring him here.

I do think we are one of the better fits for him, considering how dominant our O-line is, we can keep him from taking the volume hits that wear him down.

The QB carousel keeps spinning...

He's definitely better than Hurts, but I'm not sure this is the best move to improve.  Better talent, but still not good enough to take us anywhere consistently, and will be more costly. 

I'm just not sure about these OU guys.  They never had to play against defenses in college.  Mayfield, Hurts, Murray....all mediocre talents.

 

24 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Stop.  Now you're starting to sound like others, who shall not be named who tout making the playoffs as something special.  This team only made the playoffs because of the crap schedule they had and a weak ass NFC.  You saw how that worked out.  So spare us with that.  That argument is terrible.  In a normal season against 1st string QB's (not 3rd and 4th) this roster is closer to a 5 win roster than a 10 win roster.  

 

What do we have on defense?  This team needs about 5 starters on defense....right now.  Not 5 great players...5 starters!  That's not counting offense...QB,WR, RB and possibly RG.

 

Of course Hurts won't get it done.  Remember who you're talking to here.  But your goal needs to be for 2-4 years down the road.  Not next year.  Wilson is not a 2-4 year down the road solution.  Then you're in the same boat again...Play the long game and do it right.  

 

 

Again....Wilson won't want to come here anyway.  

SO we will use all of our draft capital for the next 3 years getting wilson?  I mean you act like once we have wilson, thats it- we cant acquire any more players? And yes Wilson would keep the window open for about 5 years.  (longer than our last QB we drafted at #2 overall)

36 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Great.  Can we please pay a shorter Jalen Hurts with a better, albeit erratic arm $40M+ every year??  Especially a malcontent -- even better.

Wait a minute! Didn't you just say you would give up two firsts and Hurts for a shorter guy with a better arm? Am I missing something here, as I often do?

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Can someone, anyone, point to a single post where anyone said that they wanted to trade for Jimmy G, especially at the cost of a first round pick?   I can't say I've seen that anywhere.  

 

Meanwhile, Jimmy G is a better passing QB than Hurts.   But that doesn't mean that I support trading for Jimmy G.

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

Wait a minute! Didn't you just say you would give up two firsts and Hurts for a shorter guy with a better arm? Am I missing something here, as I often do?

Wilson is a proven winner, elevates his roster, and only open to exploring his options if the Seahawks organization wishes to do so.

Murray is a malcontent who was overdrafted and allegedly quit on his teammates last season after playing extremely poorly in said playoff game.

Wilson is a solid leader in the way a QB is supposed to be.  Murray will be a detriment, financially and culture-wise, once he gets a lucrative extension. 

1 hour ago, RLC said:

I can't think of a worse idea than trading for Jimmy G. You're losing picks and cap space, for a QB who can't stay healthy and was less productive than Hurts this year.

Jimmy G is worth all the first round picks. 

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Wilson is a proven winner, elevates his roster, and only open to exploring his options if the Seahawks organization wishes to do so.

Murray is a malcontent who was overdrafted and allegedly quit on his teammates last season after playing extremely poorly in said playoff game.

Wilson is a solid leader in the way a QB is supposed to be.  Murray will be a detriment, financially and culture-wise, once he gets a lucrative extension. 

If you had said that originally I would have agreed. 

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

If you had said that originally I would have agreed. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Jimmy G is worth all the first round picks. 

Troll or serious? Jimmy G is Hurts but cant run and costs 10 times more. He is a scrub that will never ever win a super bowl. 

2 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Troll or serious? Jimmy G is Hurts but cant run and costs 10 times more. He is a scrub that will never ever win a super bowl. 

I'm sure it was sarcasm 🤣

35 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/02/13/kyler-murray-colt-mccoy-wild-card-loss

No thank you. Don't want a player that is going to quit on his team in a playoff game. Don't care if the game is out of reach, when the face of the franchise wants to throw a hissy fit and refuse to play, you stay far far away.

Meh. Fans usually are asking for the backup to come in so the QB doesn't get hurt in a meaningless game

If he got hurt at the end when the game is out of reach then fans would be upset that he stayed in

I mean Derek Carr is superior to Jimmy G 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

If you’re Jax.  Would you take the following for Lawrence?

 

Hurts, Two 2022 1sts and 2023 2nd?  

No cause I think Doug is going to fix that